Altezza/IS200 suspension lowering and recovery research results.
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Donor car
SXE10 owner
Neil MacDonald aka member
MacRS200
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Results also relevant to the IS200/300
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The car: W index Altezza tyre
size 215-45/17 fitted with Apexi N1 V coil-overs
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The use: Road only
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The objective: Observe the
natural reach for the Geometry adjusters whilst lowering the vehicle
in progressive increments, allow settling of the chassis then lower
the vehicle and recover the Geometry.
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History: Neil MacDonald kindly
agreed to this research realising the end results could be of value
to LOC, WIM and himself. The duration was 18 months and 30 thousand
recorded miles.
The initial measurement with
stock suspention showed the normal discrepancies, and was recovered
to stock geometry positions other than the front camber/ castor which
adopted the wim positions of
Front camber: -20’
Castor: + 5degrees 55’
Observations showed the usual
inner front tyre wear, and all adjusters were still available for future
geometry corrections.
Stage two -30mm
The figures displayed are the
after correction positions.
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Data
Front |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0.2mm |
-0.9 |
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Total
Toe |
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|
-1.2mm |
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Camber |
-0.11 |
-0.26 |
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Cross
Camber |
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|
0.15 |
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Caster |
4.03 |
4.4 |
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|
Cross
Caster |
|
|
-0.37 |
|
King
Pin |
7.54 |
8.25 |
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Included
Angle |
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Data
Rear |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0mm |
0mm |
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Total
Toe |
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|
0 |
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Camber |
-1.58 |
-1.58 |
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Cross
Camber |
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|
0 |
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Thrust
Angle |
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|
0 |
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What was evident was the loss
of castor. Although the IS does not have direct castor adjusters, the
angle can be adjusted indirectly via the camber correction. Also there
is a need to retain a near equal disparity between the positions or
the car will pull toward the lower value.
The rear cambers initial position
was near to 1 degree 10’ after the lowering but we had a problem?
Unfortunately there is a design flaw with the near side rear toe adjuster
that effects 2 in 10 cars, the adjusted is basically a captive off-set
D cam, like the image below.
When the cam is rotated it
requires a constructed ledge to push against enabling the movement,
on some cars this ledge is to shallow allowing the cam to ride over
it denying any movement. So what now?
It is feasible to adjust the
rear toe, again indirectly, in this particular cars case it was a necessity
since the toe was resting Negative (toe out) and definitely not desirable
for a rear wheel drive car unless Drifting is you past time. Using the
pivotal action of the camber we lowered the position to -1 degree 58’
and achieved a 0 toe position.
Stage three -35mm
The figures displayed are the
after correction position.
.
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Data
Front |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0.7mm |
0.6mm |
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Total
Toe |
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|
1.3mm |
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Camber |
-0.49 |
-0.44 |
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Cross
Camber |
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|
.0.05 |
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Caster |
6.18 |
6.13 |
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Cross
Caster |
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|
0.05 |
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King
Pin |
8.43 |
8.56 |
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Included
Angle |
7.54 |
8.12 |
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Data
Rear |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0.4mm |
0.3mm |
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Total
Toe |
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|
0.7mm |
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Camber |
-2.06 |
-2.05 |
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Cross
Camber |
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|
-0.01 |
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Thrust
Angle |
|
|
-0.01 |
This time the front camber
adjusters were near to the maximum adjustment range. It was decided
that since now the dynamic camber curve is denied by the lower suspension
and the fact the castor position is so high we would leave the balance
and monitor the tyre wear. I personally thought the balance front and
rear was complementary. The rear positions were totally compliant and
adopted a natural positive toe in position.
Stage four -50mm
The figures displayed are the
after correction position.
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Data
Front |
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Left |
Right |
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|
Toe |
0.3mm |
0.5mm |
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Total
Toe |
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|
0.8mm |
|
Camber |
-0.52 |
-0.39 |
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Cross
Camber |
|
|
-0.14 |
|
Caster |
6.01 |
6.23 |
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Cross
Caster |
|
|
-0.22 |
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King
Pin |
8.07 |
8.22 |
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Included
Angle |
7.14 |
7.46 |
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Data
Rear |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0.0mm |
-0.2mm |
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Total
Toe |
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|
-0.2mm |
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Camber |
-1.34 |
-1.36 |
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Cross
Camber |
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|
0.02 |
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Thrust
Angle |
|
|
-0.01 |
The front camber adjusters
were now exhausted. The camber/ castor ‘over the axel’ disparities
showed no real concern. What was interesting was the rear toe had moved
positive (toe in) since I was unable to use the toe adjuster directly
on the near side rear I was able to recover some of the deep negative
camber to correct the toe position much to our relief. Since these positions
were effectively the done deal the next stage was to monitor the consequences
regarding the expected tyre wear…How much?...How fast?
Stage 5 -50mm re-check
The figures displayed are the
final position
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Data Front |
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Left |
Right |
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Toe |
0.4mm |
0.5mm |
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Total
Toe |
|
|
0.8mm |
|
Camber |
-0.52 |
-0.43 |
|
|
Cross
Camber |
|
|
-0.09 |
|
Caster |
6.01 |
6.23 |
|
|
Cross
Caster |
|
|
-0.22 |
|
King
Pin |
8.23 |
8.53 |
|
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Included
Angle |
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
Data
Rear |
|
|
Left |
Right |
|
|
Toe |
0.0mm |
0.0mm |
|
|
Total
Toe |
|
|
0.0mm |
|
Camber |
-1.38 |
-1.48 |
|
|
Cross
Camber |
|
|
0.10 |
|
Thrust
Angle |
|
|
0 |
This final check concludes
our research. Neil was a little naughty with this one leaving the re-check
for some 6K. The Geometry now was totally settled, a need to manipulate
the off-side rear camber to enable the toe to comply was necessary but
after 6K this was a small price to pay. The tyre wear pattern mimicked
the Geometry positions exactly and Neil decided to replace the long
serving tyres happy with the wear rate.
Summery
The analysis taken from the
Altezza SXE10 is also relevant to the IS200/300 suggests a safe natural
Geometry recovery is possible from a -35mm suspension drop and will
still allow for future adjustment to compensate for the cars normal
chassis displacement over time.
What was also noted was that
the -50mm was not without consequence but the reduction significantly
changed the dynamics minimizing the damage born from lowered suspension.
It is true to say that if you are aware the tyres will suffer reasonable
loss then -50mm may well be desired or indeed welcomed by some members.
Wim is unreservedly grateful
to Neil MacDonald aka MacRS200 for his participation in this project,
the information born over 18 months and 30K is unique and the results
volunteered to LOC. On a sub note I decided not to display the mileage
intervals since this could be considered as literal. This could be dangerous
since our relationship monitoring these results required constant communication,
this may not be available everywhere.
Geometry....... The nemesis
is like any other beast? It just needs to be understood then you are
the master.