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#1 User is offline   Mark Phillips Icon

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Posted 02 October 2005 - 10:18 AM

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Does anyone have a problem with excessive tyre wear on the IS300??

I have had to have 2 new sets of tyres on the front of the vehicle and one set on the back after 6000 miles per set. Is this normal??

The inside edge of the tyres go bald before the majority of the tread has got to below 6mm.

I have approached Lexus before and they say that the cars need to have regular computerised 4 wheel alignment checks but how often at £50 per time??

Most of my cars in the past have had tyres replaced after 30000 miles plus.

I would be interested if anyone has the same problem because I intend to take legal action to recover costs amounting to £600 plus thus far.

Thanks,

Mark.
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 12:00 PM

You have something wrong there ............ no need to replace them so often !

I'd suggest you get a full geometry check done on your wheels .........

Tony will be along shortly, I'm sure .........
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Posted 02 October 2005 - 05:17 PM

Mark Phillips, on Oct 2 2005, 10:18 AM, said:

:angry:

Does anyone have a problem with excessive tyre wear on the IS300??

I have had to have 2 new sets of tyres on the front of the vehicle and one set on the back after 6000 miles per set. Is this normal??

The inside edge of the tyres go bald before the majority of the tread has got to below 6mm.

I have approached Lexus before and they say that the cars need to have regular computerised 4 wheel alignment checks but how often at £50 per time??

Most of my cars in the past have had tyres replaced after 30000 miles plus.

I would be interested if anyone has the same problem because I intend to take legal action to recover costs amounting to £600 plus thus far.

Thanks,

Mark.
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There is a problem with the 'dynamic' geometry on the IS200 and IS300, you can go back to Lexus every week and they will not solve it for you! reason is that all dealers have to respect the 'Lexus' set-up, but this is in error.

If you track back here in 'Wheels and Tyres' you will see how to resolve your problem........ if not send me a PM and i will :D
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Posted 23 November 2005 - 04:28 PM

hey mark - i have not been online for months, but i had the same problem and went nuts at lexus as they were just going to charge more and more money for not solving the problem. i got into very strong conversations with them and submitted formal complaints to their head office - they infuriated me by not acknowledging the problem.

i posted my issue on here and Mr Bones sorted me out....for a nominal fee too and it was an education. If you havent seen him, GO and SEE HIM!! My car drives so good and the new tyres have not worn a bit.

These lexus centres need to get their act together as they seem throwing money at the problem will solve it...esp when its not their money! w@nk3rs.
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Posted 23 November 2005 - 04:35 PM

I still havent got mine sorted to, my front two tyres are also doin the same thing. Tony, how much is this geometry and fitting 2 new tyres? PM me if you like.


Time/date and funds available I need to get his done asap. But if in what you're saying by Lexus still not correctly setting this up, does that mean other garages follow the same guidlines and therefore are incorrect to?

Im in Leics, how far roughly are you?


Kaz :)
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Posted 23 November 2005 - 08:03 PM

kazdul, on Nov 23 2005, 04:35 PM, said:

I still havent got mine sorted to, my front two tyres are also doin the same thing. Tony, how much is this geometry and fitting 2 new tyres? PM me if you like.


Time/date and funds available I need to get his done asap. But if in what you're saying by Lexus still not correctly setting this up, does that mean other garages follow the same guidlines and therefore are incorrect to?

Im in Leics, how far roughly are you?


Kaz :)
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If click on my banner below, go into my site then 'trusted centres'. Those i have spoken to and they understand the problem. In addition you will see me there and the location.
If you have any 'wheel size or suspension mods then the geometry will have to be written for you ' if this is a 'yes i do' then email me all the details.

All other centres will go by the book... this distress has forced people to drive and have a ten round trip for me to resolve this repetitive wear issue, but you don't need to come to me, guidance and write ups cost 'nothing' for those here at LOC.
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Posted 01 December 2005 - 09:39 AM

Hi Tony.

I've just put winter tyres on my IS300 SC and noticed the front 17" wheels I took off are showing this problem. The inside 1" of each tyre is bald, while all the rest of the tread is 5-6 mm, including the first major tread just 1.5 " from the inside edge. Car is standard. Tyres are Bridestone Potenza's on which I've done 12,000 miles since buying the car.

Given all the correspondence about Lexus being unable to fix this, I'd rather take it to a trusted dealer to get it sorted. However, the closest to me is in Oldham, a mere 400 miles from me.

Do you know anyone north of the border I could try, please?

Many thanks,
IanB :D
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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:15 AM

Yeah, im a weeee bit away to buddy........shame, think im going to have to bite the bullet and get Tanvics to do it..........
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Posted 01 December 2005 - 10:25 AM

kazdul, on Dec 1 2005, 10:15 AM, said:

Yeah, im a weeee bit away to buddy........shame, think im going to have to bite the bullet and get Tanvics to do it..........
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The jargon is lost on me! Who or what is Tanvics?
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Posted 01 December 2005 - 07:22 PM

IanB, on Dec 1 2005, 09:39 AM, said:

Hi Tony.

I've just put winter tyres on my IS300 SC and noticed the front 17" wheels I took off are showing this problem. The inside 1" of each tyre is bald, while all the rest of the tread is 5-6 mm, including the first major tread just 1.5 " from the inside edge. Car is standard. Tyres are Bridestone Potenza's on which I've done 12,000 miles since buying the car.

Given all the correspondence about Lexus being unable to fix this, I'd rather take it to a trusted dealer to get it sorted. However, the closest to me is in Oldham, a mere 400 miles from me.

Do you know anyone north of the border I could try, please?

Many thanks,
IanB :D
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No sorry mate, only those on my site. The SC normally is quite resistant to the tyre wear problem so there must be a real issue with yours. If needs be i can write a 'safe set-up' for you to take where ever?
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:38 PM

I start to worry about the uneven tyre wear after reading this post. My IS200 was built on 06/2005 with couple thousand miles on the ODO meter so far but can not tell the uneven wear. Does the error of the 'dynamic' geometry still exist on my IS200 or how can I tell whether my IS was setup with the correct geometry. Is there anything I should do before the uneven wear occur ? Thanks in advanced for any experts advice.
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:55 PM

NetOne, on Dec 14 2005, 08:38 PM, said:

I start to worry about the uneven tyre wear after reading this post. My IS200 was built on 06/2005 with couple thousand miles on the ODO meter so far but can not tell the uneven wear. Does the error of the 'dynamic' geometry still exist on my IS200 or how can I tell whether my IS was setup with the correct geometry. Is there anything I should do before the uneven wear occur ? Thanks in advanced for any experts advice.
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I'd just go and get a geo check done anyway............... at least you know if everything is correct or not :huh:
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 09:01 PM

ScarFace, on Dec 14 2005, 08:55 PM, said:

NetOne, on Dec 14 2005, 08:38 PM, said:

I start to worry about the uneven tyre wear after reading this post. My IS200 was built on 06/2005 with couple thousand miles on the ODO meter so far but can not tell the uneven wear. Does the error of the 'dynamic' geometry still exist on my IS200 or how can I tell whether my IS was setup with the correct geometry. Is there anything I should do before the uneven wear occur ? Thanks in advanced for any experts advice.
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I'd just go and get a geo check done anyway............... at least you know if everything is correct or not :huh:
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 10:47 PM

View PostTony-Bones, on 02 October 2005 - 06:17 PM, said:

Mark Phillips, on Oct 2 2005, 10:18 AM, said:

:angry:

Does anyone have a problem with excessive tyre wear on the IS300??

I have had to have 2 new sets of tyres on the front of the vehicle and one set on the back after 6000 miles per set. Is this normal??

The inside edge of the tyres go bald before the majority of the tread has got to below 6mm.

I have approached Lexus before and they say that the cars need to have regular computerised 4 wheel alignment checks but how often at £50 per time??

Most of my cars in the past have had tyres replaced after 30000 miles plus.

I would be interested if anyone has the same problem because I intend to take legal action to recover costs amounting to £600 plus thus far.

Thanks,

Mark.
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There is a problem with the 'dynamic' geometry on the IS200 and IS300, you can go back to Lexus every week and they will not solve it for you! reason is that all dealers have to respect the 'Lexus' set-up, but this is in error.

If you track back here in 'Wheels and Tyres' you will see how to resolve your problem........ if not send me a PM and i will :D

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 11:05 PM

Hi I have an iS200SE, i have gone through 18 front tyres in 3 years and 40k, with 3 major geometry checks and loads of tracking. I believe I have sorted it out thanks to WIM and my local garage man. The main rubbers on the swinging arm bushes and the front trailing bushes are not strong enough. At rest and having the geometry checked with the wheel on the road they appear to be fine. When driving however the bushes are not strong enough to hold the front wheels in the correct alignment and so they deflect out slightly as the road undulates and cause excessive inner tyre wear, and the car to waver all over the place, which can be a bit scary if you like to drive a bit fast.
Change the bushes to heavy duty rally performance bushes, I think I got them from PIR in the West midlands, then set the geometry as WIM settings and feel the difference immediately. Handles like a dream, sharp taught and responsive, good straight line stuff even when braking hard. The new bushes are reinforced with an inner steel ring and use a much harder rubber.
I have only recently had this done so I will keep a close eye on the tyres, but no inner tyre wear yet.
P.S also up the tyre pressures by a few pounds.
Lexus know all about it, they just deny it.It is common on the is200, probably the same on the 300.

Bobby the Fish


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IanB, on Dec 1 2005, 09:39 AM, said:

Hi Tony.

I've just put winter tyres on my IS300 SC and noticed the front 17" wheels I took off are showing this problem. The inside 1" of each tyre is bald, while all the rest of the tread is 5-6 mm, including the first major tread just 1.5 " from the inside edge. Car is standard. Tyres are Bridestone Potenza's on which I've done 12,000 miles since buying the car.

Given all the correspondence about Lexus being unable to fix this, I'd rather take it to a trusted dealer to get it sorted. However, the closest to me is in Oldham, a mere 400 miles from me.

Do you know anyone north of the border I could try, please?

Many thanks,
IanB :D
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No sorry mate, only those on my site. The SC normally is quite resistant to the tyre wear problem so there must be a real issue with yours. If needs be i can write a 'safe set-up' for you to take where ever?

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