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allot
post Nov 21 2009, 10:00 PM
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Just bought a new 'complete' key of ebay and got it cut. It seems that I cannot get the remote to work with my car at all. The key is/looks brand new. I have tried around 4 variations of the key programming guides (both on this forum and external forums) and it just will not work. I get to the step where you prepare the car and enter the combition on your fob and absolutely no reponse or sync up. They just dont want to talk sad.gif

Has anyone with the same or similar spec car (2004 54 is200SE) got it to work with theirs? I know that based on the year there are a few differences in the steps taken to get it to work but despite every varition tried, nothing.

Please help !


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post Nov 22 2009, 04:32 PM
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i had a similar problem, turned out to be that my old key had lost its programme, so that needed doing first
Does your old key still work, or are you having to unlock it manually everytime??
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post Nov 24 2009, 07:43 PM
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The old key still works, its a master key and its the only one.

Im wondering what the difference is between the sequence for the older lexus's (<03) and the newer lexus's(03>)

Any help appreciated guys!!
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post Nov 24 2009, 08:37 PM
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http://my.is/forums/f90/diy-key-reprogramming-334593/
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=48876
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post Nov 26 2009, 02:34 PM
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None of those links specify for the 2004 model and been advised there is a difference.

Thanks for help though
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post Nov 26 2009, 08:29 PM
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I 'too' have a IS200SE 2004 54 plate. Came with a single Master. Got a blank of eBay, cut by Timpsons.

This worked (80 seconds is a looong time, be patient) for my immobiliser. Haven't got the remote to work yet so would like to collaborate with you on that front.
See this link wrt Remote: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachment...programming.pdf
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Press the accelerator and brakes pedals simultaneously ONCE, then release.

Insert your Master Key into the ignition, and turn ON.

Press and release the accelerator FIVE times (within 15 seconds)

Press and release the brake pedal SIX times (within 20 seconds)

Remove the Master key

Insert the new key into the ignition, and turn ON (within 10 seconds)

Press and release the accelerator ONCE (within 10 seconds)

WAIT 80 seconds (or so), the security light should go OFF.

Remove new key, press and release brake ONCE. - Done.
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post Jan 15 2010, 03:32 PM
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Hey VJJ..just got mine working! Both the doors /boot and immoboliser work... turned out to be the transponder type....

As yours too is a 54 2004 model...this is the sequence that i used to get the doors /boot working..Just remember that when in the programming state (step 7 onwards) you can try many keyfob combinations...

Hope it works for you too...



Remote Programming

1. Close and lock all doors. Unlock and open drivers door.
2. Put key into ignition and remove. Do not turn it on.
3. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock)
4. Close and open drivers door.
5. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock)
6. Put key into ignition. Turn to "ON" , turn off and remove.
7. You will see the door locks cycle by themselves.

If the door locks do not cycle (lock and unlock) by themselves then the car isn’t in programming mode and you must start over.

8. On the remote, press and hold the LOCK and the UNLOCK button at the same time for no more than 2 seconds.
9. On the remote, press the LOCK button for no more than 1 second.

AT THIS POINT, the locks should cycle by themselves ONE time. This means the procedure was accepted.

IF the locks cycle twice it has failed.

The most common reason for programming failure is because the car didn’t receive a good signal from the remote. To fix this problem try these tips. 1) Stand outside of the car while you are performing steps 8 and 9. 2) Don’t hold the remote buttons down as long.

As long as the car is still in programming mode you can keep trying steps 8 and 9 until you complete the programming. If you wait too long and the car exits the programming mode then you must start over.

After you get the remote to program then continue on with step 10.

10. Close and open door to end programming procedure.
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post Jan 15 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (allot @ Jan 15 2010, 05:32 PM) *
Hey VJJ..just got mine working! Both the doors /boot and immoboliser work... turned out to be the transponder type....

As yours too is a 54 2004 model...this is the sequence that i used to get the doors /boot working..Just remember that when in the programming state (step 7 onwards) you can try many keyfob combinations...

Hope it works for you too...



Remote Programming

1. Close and lock all doors. Unlock and open drivers door.
2. Put key into ignition and remove. Do not turn it on.
3. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock)
4. Close and open drivers door.
5. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock)
6. Put key into ignition. Turn to "ON" , turn off and remove.
7. You will see the door locks cycle by themselves.

If the door locks do not cycle (lock and unlock) by themselves then the car isn’t in programming mode and you must start over.

8. On the remote, press and hold the LOCK and the UNLOCK button at the same time for no more than 2 seconds.
9. On the remote, press the LOCK button for no more than 1 second.

AT THIS POINT, the locks should cycle by themselves ONE time. This means the procedure was accepted.

IF the locks cycle twice it has failed.

The most common reason for programming failure is because the car didn’t receive a good signal from the remote. To fix this problem try these tips. 1) Stand outside of the car while you are performing steps 8 and 9. 2) Don’t hold the remote buttons down as long.

As long as the car is still in programming mode you can keep trying steps 8 and 9 until you complete the programming. If you wait too long and the car exits the programming mode then you must start over.

After you get the remote to program then continue on with step 10.

10. Close and open door to end programming procedure.


I also failed to program remote functions on my key, although didn't have any problems with the immobiliser. I simply never reach the self-locking/unlocking state. Seems that I am doing everything as per instructions. Strange.. Any suggestions?..
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post Jan 15 2010, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE (flyeris @ Jan 15 2010, 05:46 PM) *
I also failed to program remote functions on my key, although didn't have any problems with the immobiliser. I simply never reach the self-locking/unlocking state. Seems that I am doing everything as per instructions. Strange.. Any suggestions?..


Aha.. I think I found what I missed. Will have to try that once again:
SET - UP
• Remove the key from the ignition
• Close and lock all doors
Manually unlock and open the driver’s door
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post Jan 15 2010, 08:59 PM
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how did you get on....
i heard from another member who got keys for his is200 from ebay but they would not work on his car.... something to do with the transponder and the age of his car.... i know you pm ed me about the ones i have. i dont think anybody has had any trouble with them. the most have said they got it working after 1 or 2 tries.
let me know if i can help.
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post Jan 16 2010, 02:59 PM
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hi guys

jay was probably talking about me

i bought 2 transponders from ebay and none would work , not even to start the car !

the ebay seller ejazz786 or something is the only one who sells these things but i would steer well clear if i was you because he is a jerk when you have problems and will blame you and his not shabby product infact i would like to hear from people who got these working and how cause i suspect not many did ?

I tried every combination of instructions possible and the things (both) would not work then jay russell came to the rescue with a 3 button transponder unit he sent , this one worked like a charm after a few tries so BUYERS BEWARE the transponders on ebay might not work on your IS200 mine was 2005 s by the way

Just a heads up

p.s buy a genuine used is200 key thats a much better bet
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post Jan 27 2010, 06:58 PM
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I have been having the same problem (53 plate IS200), i have been losing the keys at a steady rate to the point where my last remaining key was washed and only works some of the time.
I have been buying spares off ebay and now have quite a collection of uncut blades. Got a local shop to cut one (works in the ignition but not the doors) and tried to program it in using the various steps. Tried for ages with the transponder from ejaz0### from ebay with no luck. Tried another transponder from another supplier and have got half of the way there.
Take a look at the transponder, once you open the case, the correct ones need a scredriver to reveal the battery, and use a 1616 battery. If it says 'Valeo', probably will not work.

By half of the way, I mean, I can now get the car started but no luck with the remote programming. My progress is as follows:

1. Close and lock all doors. Unlock and open drivers door. DONE
2. Put key into ignition and remove. Do not turn it on. DONE - THIS IS THE MASTER KEY..
3. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock) DONE
4. Close and open drivers door. -DONE
5. Using the electric lock switch. Lock and unlock 5 times. (Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock, Lock, Unlock) DONE
6. Put key into ignition. Turn to "ON" , turn off and remove. DONE - THIS SHOULD BE THE MASTER KEY
7. You will see the door locks cycle by themselves. - YES THEY DO!!

If the door locks do not cycle (lock and unlock) by themselves then the car isn’t in programming mode and you must start over.

8. On the remote, press and hold the LOCK and the UNLOCK button at the same time for no more than 2 seconds. -NOTHING HAPPENS
9. On the remote, press the LOCK button for no more than 1 second. - NOTHING HAPPENS

I have tried standing outside the car, quck presses, slow presses, everything (I think).
Give me some ponters, please!!!!

Also, a youtube vid would be much appreciated!!
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post Jan 28 2010, 05:51 PM
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I programmed a transponder today using above guide,once in program mode it worked second try-then the poxy locksmith messed the key cutting bit up so i have to get anather blank and find a better locksmith-moral,,,choose your keycutter wisely(although i thought i had).
Still at least i got the transponder side working and unlocking etc.
The guide above definately works
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post Jan 29 2010, 02:23 PM
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First of all...Hi!!!

I've seen lots of "Key" threads in the forum so instead of starting a new one I would jump in on this one.

I see people are having some problems coding their cars to the key fobs and some cases car accepting the new key but ignoring the old one. This brings me to me question/questions.

We now know we need the "Master" key (3 buttons) to allowing the coding of new keys to the cars system but I want to know what determines this?
i.e Is it the transponder or module in the key fob or the blade (metal part) of the key that tells the system that the key in use is the master key?

I ask this because I bought my car is200 sport 52 plate and it came with only 1 master key.

So if for example I bought a two button blank and used a lexus module in it. Then had the key cut using my master key as the pattern. Would this new key (if coded to the car) then be a 2 button master?

I'm just wondering because even on flea-bay 3 button blanks are around £50 and 2 buttons are considerably cheaper.

Any light shed on this would be great because my way of thinking is...
It must be the blade that tells the car it is the master.
After-all, you can program any old key up with the master but the system can forget this is the master and needs re-programming but if it's the module that tells the system it's a master this would not happen. AND it would be too easy to code in-proper keys up by using any old master module.

Thanks in advance for more insight on this.
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post Today, 12:35 AM
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Hi Hi all i got a Valeo key of ebay can do noting with it just a we question if i get a 3botton key out of a smashed is200 can i reprogram it to work on my is200
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QUOTE (lee200 @ Feb 9 2010, 12:35 AM) *
Hi Hi all i got a Valeo key of ebay can do noting with it just a we question if i get a 3botton key out of a smashed is200 can i reprogram it to work on my is200


I would say most probably...YES!!!

I am still trying to find out if the newer is200 (02-06) uses a different transponder than the older versions. (99-02)
As it appears that all the people having trouble coding the cars have newer cars.

Also...When i took my key to be cut the key cutter said he could program my transponder for me. When he tried the machine said the transponder was in-compatible with my key. It to is a Valeo key and I have an 02 car.

Working on confirmation for this but maybe following the above guides and variations you may get somewhere with the Valeo.

Good luck.
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