cdave
Oct 9 2004, 01:05 PM
Hi All
Please be gentle as this is my first post.
I have an IS200 SE and I want to upgrade the headlights to Xenon. I need to buy the kit AND have someone fit it for me (I am hopeless at DIY, so no suggestions to fit it myself).
Can anyone give me suggestions for fitters (North West London). I would like some recommendations of garages that you have used or heard are reputable.
Where is the best place to buy the kit and again any recommendations? I want the full kit including ballast. I want a road legal kit.
(I have done a search but nobody has recommended any fitters).
Please Help
Thanks
Matthew_McNally
Oct 9 2004, 01:07 PM
There have been a few guys on here lately who have purchased the Prolex UK
HID Kit for the Lexus IS200.
Sure they will be along shortly to tell you how good it is.
dlayen
Oct 9 2004, 01:43 PM
be aware no after market kits are legal on the road as they do not have self leveling
SteveAudioX
Oct 9 2004, 02:39 PM
When you say north West London, where exactly

Which Town ?
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 03:01 PM
QUOTE(dlayen @ Oct 9 2004, 02:43 PM)
be aware no after market kits are legal on the road as they do not have self leveling
I have the prolex kit and was fitted at JAE this year and it went through the M.O.T no problem.
jdmparts_guru
Oct 9 2004, 03:16 PM
I believe that if the HIDs are installed properly, and the bulbs are 4300K (yellow white/ daylight) or 6000K (ultrawhite), then there is no problem.
However, if you want to be RICE, and install 8000K or higher (blueish) then you will have problems.
to have HID lights legally on a UK registered car then they MUST have a self levelling device fitted.
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 03:46 PM
So if you MUST have self levelling and they ARE illegal why did mine pass the mot then..?
And i have blueish bulbs.
aido
Oct 9 2004, 03:51 PM
Because you found a local friendly garage Pete

Rob's right, at one point I was going to import the whole IS300 kit with self levelling computers and everything.
As long as your lights aren't too bright to oncoming cars don't worry, otherwise the police might pull you over if they're having a slow day

BTW, OT but what did you do about the harness in the end Pete?
jdmparts_guru
Oct 9 2004, 03:52 PM
dunno what the official regulations in the UK are, but on the mainland, self levelling and washers are only required for factory installed HID kits.
Aftermarket kits are only only tested on the light output and direction, and the color of the light.
aido
Oct 9 2004, 03:57 PM
Maybe that's the same here Alex, not actually sure now mate, but I'm certainly looking forward to going back to HID's, it will look mega
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(aido @ Oct 9 2004, 04:51 PM)
Because you found a local friendly garage Pete

Rob's right, at one point I was going to import the whole IS300 kit with self levelling computers and everything.
BTW, OT but what did you do about the harness in the end Pete?
Garage was a Lexus one m8.
Harness was thrown away in the end.I was worried about it as i dont know the amount of power the ballast kicks out but i went to the show last week and had them on continuously for about 6 hours.

I'd take some pics to show how blue they are but i haven't got a camera at the mo
aido
Oct 9 2004, 03:59 PM
Nice, will make the install time much quicker for me then!
Pete, have you got the 4300k bulbs in then like I got with my kit or did you get some higher rated lumens ones? Mine were just extremely white and I do remember your's being quite blue?! Saying that I never tried them at night though so probably the same!!!
@ CDave, the installation is extremely easy, what I just mentioned to Pete means that you can run the kit without the wiring harness which makes installation even easier as you don't need to run wires across the back of the engine bay to the battery.
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 04:03 PM
I dont know what rating the bulbs are but i guess they are the same,but then again my lights are JDM ones so the chrome piece does have a blue tinge to it.
aido
Oct 9 2004, 04:07 PM
Didn't realise that Pete - did you buy the full JDM unit or are these the one's you painted?
But if they are a JDM unit then does that mean you don't have the headlight level adjustment in them or did you transplant the unit from your old unit?
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 04:12 PM
QUOTE(aido @ Oct 9 2004, 05:07 PM)
Didn't realise that Pete - did you buy the full JDM unit or are these the one's you painted?
But if they are a JDM unit then does that mean you don't have the headlight level adjustment in them or did you transplant the unit from your old unit?
I bought them off of Zee last year and i adapted them to take the manual adjustment....clever or what
cdave
Oct 9 2004, 04:45 PM
SteveAudioX
I am in Harrow, NW London. I am willing to travel to surrounding area to have the kit fitted.
Thanks for the encouraging to fit it myself, but I really don't want to touch anything under the bonnet!
What I am after is a kit as if I am driving a factory fitted option. I was under the impression that you must have self levelling to make it road legal. Are there any kits which include a self leveling mechanism?
Thanks
aido
Oct 9 2004, 04:56 PM
You could always look into buying all the parts that make up the Lexus OEM system as seen on the IS200 LE etc but it would cost a lot of money, thibk you're talking nearly a grand!
Plus I'm not sure whether it's a direct fit or whether modifications to the wings are required - Zee put the HID's into his car and needed to get the wings modified to make everything fit correctly!!!
SteveAudioX
Oct 9 2004, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(jdmparts_guru @ Oct 9 2004, 03:52 PM)
dunno what the official regulations in the UK are, but on the mainland, self levelling and washers are only required for factory installed HID kits.
Aftermarket kits are only only tested on the light output and direction, and the color of the light.
Thats right ...
FACTORY installed kits ...
SteveAudioX
Oct 9 2004, 04:59 PM
QUOTE(cdave @ Oct 9 2004, 04:45 PM)
SteveAudioX
I am in Harrow, NW London. I am willing to travel to surrounding area to have the kit fitted.
Thanks for the encouraging to fit it myself, but I really don't want to touch anything under the bonnet!
What I am after is a kit as if I am driving a factory fitted option. I was under the impression that you must have self levelling to make it road legal. Are there any kits which include a self leveling mechanism?
Thanks
Harrow ...
I am about 5 minutes from there ....
ProLex-UK
Oct 9 2004, 05:04 PM
I'm expecting 5 sets in early next week.............PM me if you want a set
cdave
Oct 9 2004, 05:12 PM
Thanks for all the replies on the Kit, any recommendations on where to get it fitted and how much it would cost?
Thanks
ProLex-UK
Oct 9 2004, 05:30 PM
The Prolex-UK HID kit is £300 inc VAT plus P&P
PM me and I'll see if I can arrange fitting
SteveAudioX
Oct 9 2004, 05:32 PM
Is there someone looking for a fitter ?
dlayen
Oct 9 2004, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(Scorpion @ Oct 9 2004, 04:01 PM)
QUOTE(dlayen @ Oct 9 2004, 02:43 PM)
be aware no after market kits are legal on the road as they do not have self leveling
I have the prolex kit and was fitted at JAE this year and it went through the M.O.T no problem.
clearly a tester who does not know his stuff then. it's illegal to sell the conversion kits in the us for road use, i don't know about the uk
ColinBarber
Oct 9 2004, 07:58 PM
It is illegal to use these kits on the road but it's not an MOT testers job the check that sort of thing. They check the lights are aligned correctly they are not going to check bulbs have E marks on them or self leveling is installed etc.
The only legal conversion kits I have seen are the ones Hella produce for VW and BMWs. Basically they change the whole lights for the OEM HID system so include self leveling etc.
Scorpion
Oct 9 2004, 08:19 PM
QUOTE(SteveAudioX @ Oct 9 2004, 06:32 PM)
Is there someone looking for a fitter ?

You dont need the whole kit,just the bulbs and ballast boxes,a chimpanzee could fit these
SteveAudioX
Oct 9 2004, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(ColinBarber @ Oct 9 2004, 07:58 PM)
The only legal conversion kits I have seen are the ones Hella produce for VW and BMWs. Basically they change the whole lights for the OEM HID system so include self leveling etc.
Although NOT every VW and BMW come with headlight washers
Dodgy
Oct 9 2004, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(aido @ Oct 9 2004, 04:51 PM)
As long as your lights aren't too bright to oncoming cars don't worry, otherwise the police might pull you over if they're having a slow day

i wouldn't hesitate to pull you over

Just to check out the lights of course
cdave
Oct 10 2004, 03:44 PM
Something I just thought off
Are you still able to manually adjust the headlights via switch on the dashboard? (For those who have the Prolex kit?)
aido
Oct 10 2004, 03:51 PM
Yes Dave, the motor is still in the lamp units so works as normal
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