Hello!

I'm from Portugal, my name is Fábio, and I'll soon buy a Lexus IS200 Sport of 1998/99 used! More month, less month, I'm thinking getting one. My current car is a Seat Ibiza 6L TDI 130hp, wich will in this week be with 190hp in MAHA rolls. So, I'm used to have a good torque, and when I'll buy the Lexus, I won't have it with the car stock.

So, I'm asking guys an opinion about this turbo-kit that I spotted in the web, a TSI Turbo-Kit.

Here's the link: http://www.turbo-kits.com/IS200_turbo_kits.html

It says an increase of 56% safely in stock engine, and it's the most cheap that I've found among turbo-kits and S/C kits, but I want guys to make me believe that this kit or any other turbo-kit in market for this car will not damage a used engine like I want to buy, wich will have 100.000kms (60.000 miles), or even any other S/C kit available. As about TTE S/C, I'm shore that it's a good option, but it's too expensive for me, so I'm asking you guys help to take the best option!

Of course first I must buy the car, but I want to know what money I'll spent to make the mods that I want!

Thanks guys for the time!

Hi, welcome to LOC

I don't know if anyone here has one of these kits, they do sound nice looking at the specs but they only ones I know of are Daza_W's car which was a custom turbo design, and I believe someone else on here is looking into a turbo, which in kit form if it is all alright will be a few months off.

You can see some of the old threads here:

http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hl=en&....uk&btnG=Search

Hope there is some good info for you.

I had the supercharger installed when I hit 60,000 miles and it has been okay so far

my car has a turbo fitted worth while but i think can get a bit expensive check out my garage and here is a link were si had my work done
http://www.tdi-plc.com/index.html
goto japanese cars and lexus is 200 top quality conversion and a lot of power

Thanks Aido!

I've readed some opinions about this kit in the links you've showed, and it seems to be a good option! And as I'm in Portugal, the car is LHD, so it will fit nicely!

I didn't saw any opinion about the turbo upgrade that's available:
- Ball Bearing Upgrade: $100.00 - T28 Dual BB

It has also this, that I don't understand:
Fuel System Option 1:
- 2 Injectors & Interface Block
- TSI Injection Control Unit w/ Turbo Timer

Fuel System Option 2:
- APEXi S-AFC II
- APEXi Turbo Timer
- Boost Gauge

It can only be choosed onde of this options, right? My doubt is that there are no prices of this options, so I think that chossing the Option 1 or the Option 2 is the same final price, right?

Thanks for the help!

To be honest I don't know about the final price, might be worth dropping them an email to confirm?

One thing I did pick up on was that in some of those old threads someone commented that you couldn't upgrade to the T28 so it sounds like they've addressed that now, but I don't know of anyone who's ever had this fitted?

Might be worth asking them if they've ever sold any and have any demo cars out there that you could have a look at?

Does sound like excellent value for money, let us know how you get on if you do decide to buy one

Thanks for your opinion!

I've saw all the page of the TDI for Lexus IS200, but I found the prices a little high for me... But I'm reading your opinions, and I want to know the best option!

Thanks Aido! I'll send them an email, and ask for one Lexus IS200 with this kit, but if there's 3 pics of one in the page, so they have installed one!

I must calculate also the value of the product passing in the boarder of Portugal (it won't be cheap ).

But more opinions would be welcome!

I can get a plug and play Turbo kit for the IS200

About £4k

That's the one I meant !!! What sort of power Dave, and any more details? Possibly interested if I don't go down the 300 route

Too expensive... I'm have time to decide, I'm thinking even in making my own kit turbo for the IS200, by making tubes myself, buying a bigger turbo then a T25BB, making a costum FMIC, then I'll would have to buy the injection upgrade, the Fuel/Boost Management (Apexi) and the rest, and perhaps it will become even more cheaper... All I have to do is analise with care the situation! What do you think guys? I'm just suposing...

One more question: will the stock clutch andle a kit-turbo like the one that's in discussion? Will I need a bigger/stronger one?

Thanks!

Think I once read the gearbox was good for up to 250bhp - Mat Clawley would have this info (supracharged-is340) - not sure about the clutch but ProLex & TDI do aftermarket clutches etc.

also i think you have to do some work one the top 1/2 of your engine, the valves need to be changed as thay will burn out in time (factory turbo cars have diff valves in the engine than none turbo cars).

Here we go, the old post about the gearbox:

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...wtopic=1673&hl=

Notice Mat's comments, rated to 250bhp by TTE....

I ask then DAZA_W if he needed to make this kind of job.

the valves and gearbox are stantard is200 no internals have been done up to this stage.
i have owned the car 2 weeks all the work was done by tdi when simon owned the car sorry i cant help much but the car runs and drives superb and the last dyno was 280 bhp but he has done alot of work to get the car there
as for gearbox,valves etc only time will tell i am hoping to push it past 300bhp mark next year (but the internals, injecters etc will be uprated then)

I'd like to see you do it for cheaper !

the kit I've found has everything....manifold uprated fuel pump ecu intercooler and works...............

good luck anyway

£4k! I wouldn't even bother, sell the car and get something else! I think for extra £1-2k more Supra twin turbo conversion surely!

I think you could say a lot more than 6k for the Supra TT conversion, maybe times that by five if you really go to town?!

Depends how cheap you can get hold of an engine and gearbox. Import one from Japan and I think you could do it for £6k if you are not uprating the engine.

What about the labour charges though Colin? Is that included in the 6k? If so I'm off to look for one now

Theres the diff as well...............driveshafts as well............

until you change the gearing/or up the rev limit whatever you do will max out at the same speed as the standard car..........may get there quicker but thats it........


maybe why my alter ego is going for the fcon-pro whuch will enable the rev limit to be raised as required

how much extra will the engine take with the rev range upped will it take (500-1000)

You would need to know somebody who could do quite a bit of the work or do some of it yourself. If you paid full price labour rates it would be too expensive

Here are the engines:
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...howtopic=17179&

greetings daza........

I'd leave as is until you get the uprated internals done...........may need one of my low mileage used engines I've got tucked away....

Then you ned to change your HKS ecu....you've got the HKS F-Con S which (i'm told) does a lot of good things but can't increase the rev limit,,,,,,,,the Pro which I'm getting costs about £1k but allows the increase..........

There is a theory BTW that you can amend the std ECU to do this but I've no idea who knows it or how to do it (no male cow pooh)

Any idea when you are getting your internals done ?

Hoping to open my Prolex-UK fitting centre in Milton Keynes soon.....could do you a deal

I'll let you know what mine is raised to when its done BTW ...........question of when the power curve starts to drop me thinx

planning internals about march would like to turn my rev range up more i thought you could do allsorts of tricks with these uprated ecu will speak soon

maybe an idea to speak to HKS directly.........Just relating what i've been told and sold !

Sure you could sell the fcon -s though !!

maybe thanks for your info will speak to hks when the time comes

What does the kit that you've found of special to cost 4000 pounds?!?!?!

everything you need in short...........uprated fuel pump ecu manifold turbo intercooler..........they all work as well.......all tyhe R&D has been done

Be more specific please, all the parts in question. Thanks!

dave i think he wants all the part numbers to

Very funny...

He can give me the information that he want, but he should give so I can evaluate if the 4000 that is asking are worth of the kit, right? For me and for all, I think...

I'll get the details when I get home from work

Still waiting...

cosidering that the supercharger costs £3K so if u relate the cost of the turbo kit to that then £4k i think is an ok price.

BITO: what are u expecting to pay for a turbo kit?

Just found this thread and I guess you guys have to wait till end this year for some feedback from belgium

I've ordered the kit from www.turbo-kits.com and it's going to be installed this winter. (too busy at time )

I've also found 2 other guys who've got it (in germany) and they are both satisfied with it. One of them is driving with turbo for almost 2 years now and has no problems yet.


Greetz
Dimi

Ask RoadRash, He is at the moment installing a turbo in a Is 200.

http://euro.lexusownersclub.com/forums/ind...135&#entry50589

That's a great thread, it looks like RoadRash has an excellent kit there, I will keep an eye on that thread as I am looking forward to seeing how it sounds, the turbos sound amazing

Our cars are right hand drive...

Different brake servo, steering rack locations etc...

I have a cunning plan for that Steve

go on ..........................................

That is looking nice top job there mate, i can not wait now till next year

Hi mates!
(irst of all, I'm from Austria and not Germany, but we also talk German....
)

Yes, this is another "problem" for you left-hand-driving guys.
You would have to do some custom work.

And the turbo manifold and downpiping fits right well, but with the piping you will have to cut, bend and drill something..... it takes a while, but works.
The space behind the front bumper is small it's millimeter work there.

I hope anyone of you who ordered it, gets the right parts.
I'm lucky, I got a too short oil line, so we only mounted the intercooler + piping and electric parts.

I can continue my project, when I got the oil line.

But one thing I will never understand...... why the hell do we get a quite good turbo kit FROM USA!!!!????
They don't have any IS200 there, but we get a kit.
The kit is made by TSI, that corporation is in California and they make a turbo kit for the IS200.
Don't know..... but it works, that's important.

Who in Germany got that kit and didn't tell us?!?!?

Greets Mike

Oh and I got told, that a guy in Australia (I'm from Austria --> difference ) has already fit that kit, with fuel management and that mini-monster put 235RWHP down on the road!!!

WOW! That's quite good.

Hi Roadrash, i should have Turbo on my IS by Feb next year but i did not get the kit im makeing a Turbo kit, i have T4 Garrett / KKK Stage V Wheel comeing over from the US and im working round that should be fun.

hehe and its Capable of 650+ but i only want 300hp over all out of it, but the BHP is there as and when i have the cash to do the work on the Engine

Hey Marcus.... cool plannings!
Custom built TK??? Not bad....

But I should warn you to hit the 300Hp mark on stock internals.
Also you should get an ignition control over 0.6bars or such.
And I would take a smaller turbo for 300HP, because a 600HP Turbo will spool a bit later. Of course if you want you could get a huge kick in your a**.
But I wouldn't do that on stock engine parts.

I got a T28BB it reaches for ~320HP.... of course a bit larger would be fine, but enough. But this is your choice.

I only wanted to tell you, don't to overpower that engine.... look at the rods from
TRD328....
Or ask SimonSkippi.... he got 284Hp out of his Rocket, but it overheated every time......

Are you going to get a stainless steel turbo manifold and such??
If yes.... get one for me too....

Hi mate, 280 to 300hp is tops that i want out of it on std engine, and the Turbo is a fast spool one, with KKK V wheel

im geting Greddy Emanage and the E-01 and Greddy Timer for this setup. so i no whats going on with it

as for the manifold yes im geting stainless steel one made up i will let you know how much it cost,s me ok

RoadRash, I see you got a S-AFC II and a boost gauge with the kit, what other option have you ordered ?

No other option.
I let the turbokit sent to a friend in USA, who put the AVC-R BC, the Greddy boost gauge and the BLITZ BOV in the box.
After that the kit got shipped to me.

The SAFC, the EGT gauge and the AEM O2 controller have already been installed since June.
It was a seperate order.