LennyLexus
Apr 16 2005, 05:53 PM
Fellow LOCers,
I'm not sure if this has been done before but could everyone provide the following information?
Hopefully this thread should be a good guide for everyone when looking for new tyres.
MAKE/MODEL: OEM Bridgestones
SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-R17)
MILEAGE: 20k
THREAD LEFT: 3-4mm (approx)
DRIVING STYLE: 65% Gentleman, 35% Agressive
OTHER NOTES: Tyres has 6-7mm(Approx) of thread on when brought from Lexus Bristol in Sept 2003. A rotation was done after 5k. And geometry was corrected after 5k.
mudzs
Apr 16 2005, 05:58 PM
MAKE/MODEL: pirrelli p zeros
SIZE: OEM 18 s
MILEAGE: 15k
THREAD LEFT: 3mm (approx)fronts 0mm inside edge of rears
DRIVING STYLE: 80% Gentleman, 20% Agressive
OTHER NOTES:rears have worn very badly on the inside edge and need replacing asap ,but fronts still have lots of tread left and have worn very evenly.
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 16 2005, 05:58 PM
I'm going to enjoy this... and its Saturday night...
Bob King
Apr 16 2005, 06:52 PM
MAKE..........Hankook Ventus Sport K104,
SIZE..........215-45-ZR17,
MILEAGE.......187
TREAD LEFT.......as new,
Driving Style..........90% Gentleman, 10% with enthusiasm

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PhoneDrome
Apr 16 2005, 06:55 PM
After one good season 2004:
MAKE/MODEL: Uniroyal Rainsport 1
SIZE: 225/40R18
MILEAGE: 15k
THREAD LEFT: 4-5mm fronts, 1mm rears (got new set of RS1 in March)
DRIVING STYLE: 50/50
----
Now supercharged

less milage on the rears.
chunkymonkey
Apr 16 2005, 07:23 PM
MAKE/MODEL: Fulda / Carot Extremo
SIZE: OEM 17s (235/45-R17)
MILEAGE: 15k
THREAD LEFT: 1-2mm (approx)
DRIVING STYLE: 100% Gentleman, 0% Agressive
OTHER NOTES: Cupping wear on the inside of the near side front and rear tyres, causing horrible noise. Going to replace them with Continental SportContact 2's.
peter026
Apr 16 2005, 07:34 PM
Make Bridgestone Potenzza
Size 225/55/16
Mileage. On when bought the car last August
I've done 6K
Thread left 4 mm front and back
Driving style 95% sedately 5% oomph
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 16 2005, 07:43 PM
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 05:58 PM)
MAKE/MODEL: pirrelli p zeros
SIZE: OEM 18 s
MILEAGE: 15k
THREAD LEFT: 3mm (approx)fronts 0mm inside edge of rears
DRIVING STYLE: 80% Gentleman, 20% Agressive
OTHER NOTES:rears have worn very badly on the inside edge and need replacing asap ,but fronts still have lots of tread left and have worn very evenly.
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I dont feel so happy now! i thought this thread would be "tyre wear". The badly worn area denies any scale and retracts back to geom.. I think "we" need a "geom" health check meet, if only to remove that "badly worn" area! from this simple post?
mudzs
Apr 16 2005, 07:46 PM
I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .
chib1177
Apr 16 2005, 07:55 PM
make- oem bridgestones
size- 17"
mileage- 10600
tread left- 5mm allround still got the little bobbles on the side
driving style- 90% blue rinse 10% brown trouser
other notes- tyres are in perfect condition even wear allround no worn parts.
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 16 2005, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 07:46 PM)
I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .
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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......
I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
mudzs
Apr 16 2005, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 16 2005, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 07:46 PM)
I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .
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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......
I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
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Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 17 2005, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 08:25 PM)
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 16 2005, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 07:46 PM)
I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .
[snapback]232103[/snapback]
Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......
I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
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Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars
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No way would any car be made that would allow the back end to over steer and wear tyres so bad....Lexus are talking "pants" what tyre size and make do you have?
Rob
Apr 17 2005, 10:50 AM
sp9000
17"
mileage approx 30,000
tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)
90% calm 10% enthusiastic
tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)
Scorpion
Apr 17 2005, 10:53 AM
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 16 2005, 09:16 PM)
All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
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Been thinking of this for a while but didn't know if it would be possible or not(depending on how many actually turn up)...or how to approach you about it as its time consuming plus STS is a business and didn't want take up all the bays for LOC,thus turning away other motorists who want the same thing.
Let me know your thoughts.
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 17 2005, 11:05 AM
QUOTE(fluff34567 @ Apr 17 2005, 10:50 AM)
sp9000
17"
mileage approx 30,000
tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)
90% calm 10% enthusiastic
tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)
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SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 17 2005, 11:57 AM
QUOTE(Scorpion @ Apr 17 2005, 10:53 AM)
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 16 2005, 09:16 PM)
All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
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Been thinking of this for a while but didn't know if it would be possible or not(depending on how many actually turn up)...or how to approach you about it as its time consuming plus STS is a business and didn't want take up all the bays for LOC,thus turning away other motorists who want the same thing.
Let me know your thoughts.
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I understand: when "my" involvement with LOC began i was on own within STS, no one had done what i had done. A member of their staff builds a web site and "slates" fast fit to the max, and i work within it? For me the facts within my site could have cost me my job ( 24 years ). The reality of WIM has grown within LOC, and STS has been watching my methodes, now they understand that "we" are in a "new" area between fast fit and the main dealer, and STS want to build on this new path.."But" i wont be pushed, it's my way or no way..
£must not be the motivation, this means that any work is "personal" i feel this is the way it should be..... sorry to go on, but thats it to date.
The "geometry" health check will be an opportunity for anyone who feels worried about the set-up, a basic image of the car and peace of mind, or not! the cost £0, but at least you know in advance things are wrong!!!
Scorpion you are my "mentor" for the members of LOC, i will need your support to guide "who" can and "who" can't have the geometry in regard to "body height".
The booking side will be a Saturday, LOC only 8 till 5.
Rob
Apr 17 2005, 12:05 PM
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 17 2005, 12:05 PM)
QUOTE(fluff34567 @ Apr 17 2005, 10:50 AM)
sp9000
17"
mileage approx 30,000
tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)
90% calm 10% enthusiastic
tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)
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SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.
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whats the flaw with them tony? i understand that if ( like anything) there is an advantage in one area u will loose in the other, i have been happy with them as for me my main advantage is wear rate, im not and dont drive like a boy racer, most of my travel is on motorway/main roads anyway, so im not after anything that is soft, eg some of the pirelli tyres that only last about 20 -25k km. i was thinking about the bf goodrich g force profiler but found out it hasnt done too well in the tests and is fairly soft also. think i will go with the newer dunlop sport maxx
Scorpion
Apr 17 2005, 12:10 PM
Id be up for this.
As for "Ride height" id say a max of -40mm with STD wheels will be o.k but it would need to be confirmed so if there is any member out there with this set up who can help Tony build a database it would be very useful,so when the date is confirmed plz come along.
mudzs
Apr 17 2005, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 17 2005, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 08:25 PM)
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 16 2005, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE(mudzs @ Apr 16 2005, 07:46 PM)
I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .
[snapback]232103[/snapback]
Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......
I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.
[snapback]232120[/snapback]
Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars
[snapback]232125[/snapback]
No way would any car be made that would allow the back end to over steer and wear tyres so bad....Lexus are talking "pants" what tyre size and make do you have?
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They are 18 /245/40z pirreli asimmetrico
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 17 2005, 12:21 PM
QUOTE(fluff34567 @ Apr 17 2005, 12:05 PM)
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 17 2005, 12:05 PM)
QUOTE(fluff34567 @ Apr 17 2005, 10:50 AM)
sp9000
17"
mileage approx 30,000
tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)
90% calm 10% enthusiastic
tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)
[snapback]232246[/snapback]
SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.
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whats the flaw with them tony? i understand that if ( like anything) there is an advantage in one area u will loose in the other, i have been happy with them as for me my main advantage is wear rate, im not and dont drive like a boy racer, most of my travel is on motorway/main roads anyway, so im not after anything that is soft, eg some of the pirelli tyres that only last about 20 -25k km. i was thinking about the bf goodrich g force profiler but found out it hasnt done too well in the tests and is fairly soft also. think i will go with the newer dunlop sport maxx
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The "flaw" is the pattern of wear, the issue is who is to blame.. the car manufacture blames the tyre manufacture, and the tyre blames the car! so little old me got pulled in the middle by NOC USA, the two papers i wrote was in defence of both, and damming of both, i can display the "highlights" here if you can tell me how to import an email, if not i can re-type it but due to injury with one hand only it will take me all day...
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 17 2005, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(Scorpion @ Apr 17 2005, 12:10 PM)
Id be up for this.
As for "Ride height" id say a max of -40mm with STD wheels will be o.k but it would need to be confirmed so if there is any member out there with this set up who can help Tony build a database it would be very useful,so when the date is confirmed plz come along.
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Thanks for your support.. maybe on sat we can set-up an image/ scale for LOC and make this "geom" meet happen, it will be nice to meet the face behind the text and give LOC members a free check up in an area that costs ££££ Scorpion you tell-em......
bondms
Apr 18 2005, 08:19 PM
MAKE/MODEL: OEM Dunlop SP9000 Sport MFS
SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-ZR17)
MILEAGE: 70350mi
THREAD LEFT: 2-3mm (approx) on the one remaining original tyre. All others have been replaced and have 5-7mm.
DRIVING STYLE: 95% Gentleman, 5% Agressive
OTHER NOTES:
The original rear tyres lasted around 40k mi.
The original front tyres were moved to the rear when the original rears wore out at 40k mi.
The passenger side was replaced again at about 60k mi so both tyres now have over 5 mm of tread.
The driver's side still has one original tyre with 2-3 mm of tread left after 70k mi. and one replacement tyre with around 5 mm of tread left.
eddiea1
Apr 24 2005, 08:44 PM
MAKE/MODEL: GOODYEAR EAGLE F1s
SIZE: 18in (225/40R 18Z)
MILEAGE: 3k
THREAD LEFT: 6-7(approx)
DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Loony
OTHER NOTES: Bought from STS in Watford. Originally running at 33psi Geometry done new. Double checked after 3,000 miles, now running the tyres at 35psi as they were wearing on the edges quicker than in the centre.
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Apr 24 2005, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(eddiea1 @ Apr 24 2005, 08:44 PM)
MAKE/MODEL: GOODYEAR EAGLE F1s
SIZE: 18in (225/40R 18Z)
MILEAGE: 3k
THREAD LEFT: 6-7(approx)
DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Loony
OTHER NOTES: Bought from STS in Watford. Originally running at 33psi Geometry done new. Double checked after 3,000 miles, now running the tyres at 35psi as they were wearing on the edges quicker than in the centre.
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"Pressure" Eddie it's all down to pressure

best thing is.... its not down to geometry. now you can relax.
Bazza
Apr 24 2005, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 24 2005, 10:10 PM)
QUOTE(eddiea1 @ Apr 24 2005, 08:44 PM)
MAKE/MODEL: GOODYEAR EAGLE F1s
SIZE: 18in (225/40R 18Z)
MILEAGE: 3k
THREAD LEFT: 6-7(approx)
DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Loony
OTHER NOTES: Bought from STS in Watford. Originally running at 33psi Geometry done new. Double checked after 3,000 miles, now running the tyres at 35psi as they were wearing on the edges quicker than in the centre.
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"Pressure" Eddie it's all down to pressure

best thing is.... its not down to geometry. now you can relax.
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so should the pressure be at 35psi
allways done them at 33psi
eddiea1
Apr 25 2005, 12:53 PM
QUOTE
sp9000
17"
mileage approx 30,000
30,000 miles out of 1 set of tyres??? you must be driving very gently to make em last that long
Fidgits
Apr 25 2005, 12:58 PM
Dunlop SP9000 (OEM 17's)
First set: 26,000 with 50% motorway crusing 50% enthusiastic.
Second set - 18,000 so far, with most tread left - 75% cruising, 25% semi-enthusiastic..
(worth mentioning, the first set went on the edges due to, *ahem* pushing it a little on corners, I take it much easier on this set)
mcwatson
Apr 25 2005, 02:37 PM
MAKE/MODEL: Dunlop SP9000's MFS
SIZE: 17in (215/45 Z17)
MILEAGE: 20k
THREAD LEFT: Fronts - about 3mm
Rears - about 1.7mm on right, 1.5mm on left (about to replace)
DRIVING STYLE: 70% Gentleman, 30% Licence Loser
OTHER NOTES: Had longer life out of these than any others I've had but would still like more. Been leaving it as long as I can but as you can see, need doing urgently. Also going to get geometry done as well as not sure its spot on. About to get Goodyear F1 GD3's.
LennyLexus
May 22 2005, 12:06 PM
COME ON GUYs,
The more replys the more informed people can be about making choices on replacement tyres.
SHAHZ
May 23 2005, 07:37 AM
Here you go Raz
MAKE/MODEL: OEM Bridgestones
SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-R17)
MILEAGE: 16k
THREAD LEFT: 0mm
DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Agressive
OTHER NOTES: Rear tyres have worn from the centre, were brand new tyres when i bought the car. Never been rotated

. Bought the car with new tyres all round, went through two sets of tyres on the front within 3k cause the alignment wasnt corrected by the dealer...third time it went in they sorted it and am still running the third set (around 13k)....just glad i didnt pay for them
Drummerboy
May 23 2005, 08:21 AM
Make / Model: OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE040
Size: 215/ 45 ZR17 on factory alloys (original tyres still)
Mileage: 23,000
Thread left: Rear 50% (see below) Fronts 0%
Driving Style Gentleman NEVER Lunatic WHENEVER POSSIBLE
Had to replace a tyre as I punctured side wall, put spare on recently also so have 2 tyres at around 50% and the other 2 as as bald as a baby's arse

I would have changed them weeks ago but need to get geometry done first and trying to find somewhere that knows what I am talking about and that I trust isn't easy. Dont want to ruin the new rubber.

Inside fifth of fronts are dangerously bald and rears (which were on the front) also worn on inside fifth (camber / toe is off I suppose

)
bondms
Jun 25 2005, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(bondms @ Apr 18 2005, 09:19 PM)
MAKE/MODEL: OEM Dunlop SP9000 Sport MFS
SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-ZR17)
MILEAGE: 70350mi
THREAD LEFT: 2-3mm (approx) on the one remaining original tyre. All others have been replaced and have 5-7mm.
DRIVING STYLE: 95% Gentleman, 5% Agressive
OTHER NOTES:
The original rear tyres lasted around 40k mi.
The original front tyres were moved to the rear when the original rears wore out at 40k mi.
The passenger side was replaced again at about 60k mi so both tyres now have over 5 mm of tread.
The driver's side still has one original tyre with 2-3 mm of tread left after 70k mi. and one replacement tyre with around 5 mm of tread left.
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Last week I was finally forced to replace my last remaining original tyre. The tread was getting very close to the legal limit and it got a nail in it.
After 3.5 years and 74040 miles I am certainly not complaining though.
Will definitely be sticking with SP9000's while I can continue to get them.
LennyLexus
Jul 29 2005, 10:13 PM
come on guys more replys please
nicnac
Sep 10 2005, 11:11 AM
QUOTE(RazRankin @ Jul 29 2005, 10:13 PM)
come on guys more replys please
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just changed my OEM Potenzas RE040 215/45/ZR17 s at 22,000 miles because they were cracking in the thread groves on all four they had an average of 3.6 mm left according to the Bridgestone rep who gave me a 50 % discount on a new set of Potenza RE050 s.
I rotated front to back at 15,000
They are definitely quieter than the 040 s but hant driven enough for any other comments
rgds
Nick
Keith Bowler
Sep 11 2005, 08:16 PM
QUOTE(RazRankin @ Jul 29 2005, 10:13 PM)
come on guys more replys please
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Hankook Ventus Sport 104 - Front
Dunlop Sport 01 (DSST) - rear
OEM 'straight' sport wheels with 245/40 18's all round
Approx 10,000 on front and about 6,000 on rears
Approx 4-5 mm of tread left on fronts and same on rears
Driving style 50/50 gentlemanly/sportingly
Now the bad points: rear passenger side tyre wearing unevenly on inner edge, same on front passenger side. Had laser alignment check done prior to last tyre refit and some adjustment made, but no print out of settings. No doubt adjustments could have been made wrongly.
Car is booked in with my garage to have front and rear suspension check, then will be booking appointment with Wheels-in-Motion to have a 'proper' geometry check done befor I replace any of the tyres.
ces
Sep 12 2005, 08:22 AM
Pirelli p6000 24000 miles mixed driving half motorway, half town/country lanes
Just switched to Kuohmo's update probably by Christmas with my mileage!
davepruce
Sep 12 2005, 11:21 AM
MAKE/MODEL: Vredestein Sportrac
SIZE: 225/60/16/Z
MILEAGE: 32k
THREAD LEFT:3mm ish
DRIVING STYLE: 75/25
OTHER NOTES: Just replaced all 4 last weekend with a new set of these.(these notes apply to the old ones o'course). Great tyres wet and dry, would recommend to anyone. Usually need to be ordered, I got mine from JustTyres in Strood (Kent). Mixed driving including A LOT of caravan towing.
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