Unlucky day for me...
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Yes it's me...
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i didn't mean to do it...
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honest
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£50 fine for turning right in a left turn ONLY zone

Hampstead... NW3

Naughty Naughty Bro.....BB is always watching

oops! clear cctv.scary actually

£50 for 4 photos.... expensive photo shoot!

One thing's for certain though.... i bet none of you guys can get a pic of your car from that angle!

Thats just silly....... makes sense during rush hour to keep traffic moving but after hours it shouldn't matter.... Someone has to pay for the cameras i suppose

Haven't got that strict over here yet ... thank goodness


One question.... did you have your right indicator on?.... as why was he zoomed in on you?

Oh dear..... 'still look on the bright side'....... ...... ummm actually there isn't one?

Doh! unlucky!

BTW, is your sunroof open?

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[quote name='Mr Singh' post='346163' date='Apr 11 2006, 08:32 PM']Doh! unlucky!

BTW, is your sunroof open?

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Just giving the camera the finger

[quote name='wheels-inmotion.co.uk' post='346151' date='Apr 11 2006, 08:13 PM']Oh dear..... 'still look on the bright side'....... ...... ummm actually there isn't one?[/quote]

there's always a bright side doc, not always evident at the time but... niraj could have been done for an illegal plate as well.

£50, that was an expensive turn! unlucky mate.

and what about the extra bright lights, are they legal?

the only reason i posted this, was because i knew i got lucky.

and as a warning to other road users, beware of crafty town centre camera's.

what annoyed me, was 18 months ago... that road was did not open onto a "Left Turn Only". It's a "new" change to the road layout, and i've been extremely used to turning right there, many times in the past.
Live and learn i guess.

My first ticket, in 6 years of driving.

Noel: i didn't have my indicator on, but that's because i knew i was about to be doing something wrong... i hold my hands up to that.

Mr Singh: sunroof was not open. But the moonroof was


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On a different note... does anyone care to share their "BUSTED (with pics)" moments with us?

i had a busted moment last month, £60 fine and 3 points for doing 40 in a 30, i really thought it was a 40. my first offence in 11 years of motoring. no pics though.

your car looks clean or is it the bright lights lol

PS they are good pics

Some great snaps their!! Must be cheaper rates than David Bailey to!

Surely you could have got away with that by pleading that you used that road a lot and didn't realise it had changed.....well, maybe before posting up on here anyway

Title of this seemed rather seedy lol!!

Gutted matey!!
Exactly what pics are people supposed to post on the busted issue?!

damn.. i did the same thing and I just remembered a camera looks down that street

how long did the fine take to arrive?

Even spookier is that, if you follow the pic sequence, the camera does a long shot BEFORE you do anything, then close up on plate. Both before its obvious that you're going to do ANYTHING....
Then does long shot AND turns to follow you.
This would indicate that EACH car that arrives has several shots taken and the paranoia that arrived with number plate recognition capacity meaning that your movements could be chased/traced through this methods seems to be justified.
Police state closer each day.
And who ARE the people that NEED to check on our movements?
Mr Bin L***n seems to have suceeded in reducing our famed Free society with just the threat of terror?

Bin turden is just an excuse for them as is the threat of 'identity fraud' to push for the ID card. Balls to them!!
I hope they suffer from cancer of eyes.

[quote name='Chris Skelton' post='346748' date='Apr 14 2006, 12:19 PM']Even spookier is that, if you follow the pic sequence, the camera does a long shot BEFORE you do anything, then close up on plate. Both before its obvious that you're going to do ANYTHING....
Then does long shot AND turns to follow you.
This would indicate that EACH car that arrives has several shots taken and the paranoia that arrived with number plate recognition capacity meaning that your movements could be chased/traced through this methods seems to be justified.
Police state closer each day.
And who ARE the people that NEED to check on our movements?
Mr Bin L***n seems to have suceeded in reducing our famed Free society with just the threat of terror?[/quote]
What confuses me is that that looks like it was CCTV that caught you, which means a camera that is being controlled by someone who is just watching the area. Surely they're supposed to be looking for suspicious characters lurking on street corners than cars making minor motoring offences

Its funny how when someone does get attacked, there's never any CCTV evidence........

Can I just add ........ that although I agree with your statement Parthiban totally.

There are some cameras, and this may be one of them ...... that are pre-programmed for 3 - 4 motions.

One) showing the first image.
Two) Zooming on plate
Three) Zooming out
Four) Following movement of contravention.

Now, also can I add ... that although this was petty for that time of the evening, as there is obviously not a sould in sight .....

Have you ever thought that there could be a no right hand turn there for a reason ?

Maybe a death occured because of someones illegal right turn ? Hence the installation of a camera?

I'll get back to work now ..........

And how much does it cost to put a pre-programmed camera here? Is it really cost effective? Thousands of £s for THIS? Who justifies this cost to US, as tax payers?

[quote name='ScarFace' post='346906' date='Apr 15 2006, 12:59 PM']Can I just add ........ that although I agree with your statement Parthiban totally.

There are some cameras, and this may be one of them ...... that are pre-programmed for 3 - 4 motions.

One) showing the first image.
Two) Zooming on plate
Three) Zooming out
Four) Following movement of contravention.

Now, also can I add ... that although this was petty for that time of the evening, as there is obviously not a sould in sight .....

Have you ever thought that there could be a no right hand turn there for a reason ?

Maybe a death occured because of someones illegal right turn ? Hence the installation of a camera?

I'll get back to work now .......... [/quote]
Yep that is a fair point, but as the road doesn't meet at a funny angle or anything (doesn't seem difficult to make a right turn) the only reason I could come up with was that it might be a main road, so ppl blocking it to turn right at peak times might be quite obstructive

If it is an automatic camera, then maybe not as bad as having a manned camera doing quite an unnecessary task, but still I believe even automatic cameras are much better used trying to fight "real" crimes rather than minor traffic offences

But I do understand where you're coming from

The nitty gritty details.

The PCN notice defined I was caught contrevening traffic law by [b]Operator 1591!!!! [/b] If i find him i'll be sure to let him know my deepest thoughts!

Steve: The ticket came through roughly 10 working days after the incident.

Since then, i have noticed MANY camera's that work in town centre's. (My driving has considerably improved )

The road opens onto a bigger road (i wouldn't say a "major" road, but definately bigger than the one i was on). The road rules from my memory appear to have changed within the last 18 months. I used to turn right at the junction regularly.... not anymore though.

Pip: pics of motoring offences only please.... lol hahaha...

Am i the only accidental law breaker here?
Surely you guys must have some driving law stories with pics... ?

Thing that springs to my mind on this, the kerb actually opens up to the right as you approach the junction inviting drivers to turn right, the markings show the road as one way, e.g. no left turn off the main road

It is left turn only out of the side road so why not spend money on moving the right hand kerb over to force drivers to turn left?

No much better plan is to spend the same amount of money to put in a camera to catch drivers turning right, you can make money that way.

Hmm ........ I didn't think Traffic Wardens had the power to ussed fixed penalty notices for Road Traffic Offences other than those listed .... IE

Double Yellow, Etc.

Hmm ... will have to look into that one !

get your moneys worth, refuse to fill in part 2. take a look at section 172. it's your right to refuse to admit guilt though, although you probably are just delaying the inevitable.

[i]172.Duty to give information as to identity of driver etc.in certain circumstances

(2)Where the driver of a vehicle is alleged to be guilty of an offence to which this section applies :-
(a)the person keeping the vehicle shall give such information as to the identity of the driver as he may be required to give by or on behalf of a chief officer of police,and
(b)any other person shall if required as stated above give any information which it is in his power to give and may lead to identification of the driver.

(3)Subject to the following provisions,a person who fails to comply with a requirement under subsection (2) above shall be guilty of an offence.

(4)A person shall not be guilty of an offence by virtue of paragraph (a) of subsection (2)above if he shows that he did not know and could not with reasonable diligence have ascertained who the driver of the vehicle was.

(5)Where a body corporate is guilty of an offence under this section and the offence is proved to have been committed with the consent or connivance of,or to be attributable to neglect on the part of,a director, manager,secretary or other similar officer of the body corporate,or a person who was purporting to act in any such capacity,he,as well as the body corporate,is guilty of that offence and liable to be proceeded against and punished accordingly.

(6)Where the alleged offender is a body corporate,or in Scotland a partnership or an unincorporated association,or the proceedings are brought against him by virtue of subsection (5)above or subsection (11) below,subsection (4)above shall not apply unless,in addition to the matters there mentioned,the alleged offender shows that no record was kept of the persons who drove the vehicle and that the failure to keep a record was reasonable.
(7)A requirement under subsection (2)may be made by written notice served by post;and where it is so made :-

(a)it shall have effect as a requirement to give the information within the period of 28 days beginning with the day on which the notice is served,and (b)the person on whom the notice is served shall not be guilty of an offence under this section if he shows either that he gave the information as soon as reasonably practicable after the end of that period or that it to an offence under section 178 of this Act, has not been reasonably practicable for him to give it.

(8)Where the person on whom a notice under subsection (7)above is to be served is a body
corporate, the notice is duly served if it is served on the secretary or clerk of that body.

(9)For the purposes of section 7 of the Interpretation Act 1978 as it applies for the purposes
of this section the proper address of any person in relation to the service on him of a notice under subsection (7) above is :-

(a)in the case of the secretary or clerk of a body corporate,that of the registered or principal office of that body or (if the body corporate is the registered keeper of the vehicle concerned)the registered address, and (b)in any other case,his last known address at the time of service.

(10)In this section :-
'registered address',in relation to the registered keeper of a vehicle, means the address recorded in the record kept under the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 with respect to that vehicle as being that person ’s address, and 'registered keeper', in relation to a vehicle, means the person in whose name the vehicle is registered under that Act;
and references to the driver of a vehicle include references to the rider[/i]