A new type of camera is being installed at several locations around London in an attempt to extract yet more cash from motorists. These cameras are more sophisticated versions of Gatsos and they have the potential to net London Scamera Partnership a small fortune. These cameras have already appeared in other parts of the country and the manufacturer, Redspeed International, claims they are vandalproof due to the height of the pole but cameras in Nottingham and Bristol have already been attacked.

With conventional Gatsos it was a lottery as to whether you would receive a NIP after having been flashed. With these cameras its almost certain you will receive a NIP as they do away with film and transmit the image directly to the back office of the Metropolitan Police's London Safety Camera Partnership at Marlowe House in Station Road, Sidcup, DA15 via an ADSL (broadband) link. Within 30 minutes of an offence being committed the NIP is waiting in the postroom ready to be sent to the registered keeper of the vehicle.

The first 16 (possibly more) of 66 planned and paid for cameras have recently been installed at a cost of £50k each and because they don't require someone to change the film the scamera partnership believes they will pay for themselves in a short period of time. The remaining cameras are due to be installed by the and of April which also coincides with the financial year. Previously the trigger speed was set way above the speed limit due to the lack of resources to cope with the high amount of NIPs being sent. In a 30mph limit the camera was set at 45 but these new cameras will be set much lower to the ACPO guidelines of 10% +2mph. Together with speed limit reductions on some of the best quality roads in London, the scamera partnership is out to fleece you left right and centre. This follows a massive £1m advertising campaign which is intended to seduce you into thinking that the cameras are there to slow you down. In reality the scamera partnership will want a good return on that £1m investment and hopes these cameras are going to be successful in bringing home the bacon.

They've appeared on the following roads so far:
A3 Clapham High St, SW4 x1
A5 Edgware Road, Colindale, NW9 x1
A24 Morden Road, Merton, SW19 x2
A40 Western Avenue at Savoy Circus, W3 x2
A41 Finchley Road, NW3 x1
A104 Lea Bridge Road, Leyton, E10 x1
A124 Rush Green Road, RM7 x2
A125 Rainham Road, RM13 x1
A219 Parkside, Wimbledon, SW19 x1
A400 Kentish Town Road, NW5 x1
A406 Waterworks Corner, Woodford, IG8 x1
A503 Seven Sisters Road, N4 x1
A4020 Uxbridge Road, Southall, UB1 x1

Expect them to be commonplace soon.

Some of these cameras are on new sites whilst others are replacing Gatsos. Below are pictures of some of the newly installed cameras. The first one shows a double headed camera which unlike a reversible Gatso which can face one way or the other, contains two fully functional camera housings which cover both directions simultaneously. Whilst the scamera partnership may believe this camera can record more offences, the downside is if someone vandalises it then both camera housings are destroyed and this would cost £100k. The cameras on the A40 are at traffic lights and these function as a red light camera and a speed camera when the lights are on green, they are known as speed on green.

[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g307.jpg[/img]
Double headed camera on Morden Road, Merton

[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g308.jpg[/img]
Rainham Road, South Hornchurch

[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g309.jpg[/img]
Two cameras on Rush Green Road, Romford

[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g310.jpg[/img]
Gatso replacement on Lea Bridge Road, Leyton

[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g311.jpg[/img]
Gatso replacement on Edgware Road, NW9

I thank you, from your freindly local LOC police man ..........

ive noticed two of these new cameras go up near to me

didnt realise they went back to marlowe house, i big client of mine is on the third floor
a bit of preventative maintenance might be needed soon

I too have seen two of these cameras recently, one just outside Croydon town centre on Coome Road and one on the Riddlesdown Road between Selsdon and Turn off to Kenley.

[quote name='Keith Bowler' post='348083' date='Apr 20 2006, 10:29 PM']I too have seen two of these cameras recently, one just outside Croydon town centre on Coome Road and one on the Riddlesdown Road between Selsdon and Turn off to Kenley.[/quote]

yep... they`re the two i was thinking off

hardly accident hotspots

[quote name='Bazza' post='348084' date='Apr 20 2006, 10:33 PM']hardly accident hotspots [/quote]
Don't you mean .... ca$hident spots ?

Quick question from an observer....... As well as an NIP do you get penallty points too......?

just thinking with all those cameras if you were over doing it, one night alone and you could be off the road!

If it's purely revenue gathering... then you wouldn't get points as they wouldn't want to lose a good customer....

if i had a rifle.....!

what about a paint ball gun

[quote name='Noel' post='348097' date='Apr 20 2006, 11:35 PM']Quick question from an observer....... As well as an NIP do you get penallty points too......?

just thinking with all those cameras if you were over doing it, one night alone and you could be off the road!

If it's purely revenue gathering... then you wouldn't get points as they wouldn't want to lose a good customer....[/quote]


The NIP is a Notice of Intended Prosecution, assuming you own up, after that is the Fixed Penalty (£60) and the 3 Penalty Points. Get enough (12) and you get a ban for a few weeks and then off you go again.

think theres one in Dartford.........I got a NIP thru the post on 11/4 for an alleged offence on 8/4 !!!

I was'nt driving praise the lord

[quote name='ScarFace' post='348067' date='Apr 20 2006, 09:30 PM'][img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/g307.jpg[/img]
Double headed camera on Morden Road, Merton[/quote]


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This one's near me, although there are another 2 on Church road, one opposite Lewis Rd junction, and the other the other direction outside the Merc garage.

But anyway, as some have said, hardly accident hotspots.

I've never seen a single accident outside my (old) main road (Church Road).



Did you take them pics Ahmet


Cheers for the extra heads-up anyway

[i]guess you'll be getting a pay rise with all this extra revenue! [/i]


D.

Theres another one at the other end of Lea Bridge Road (Clapton Roundabout) as well

[quote name='Bobski' post='348098' date='Apr 20 2006, 11:40 PM']if i had a rifle.....!

what about a paint ball gun [/quote]
Paint ball sounds good.Lets make a weekend of it? New Sport?
Do I see an access panel lower down the column? Anyone got a yellow safety jacket and a screwdriver?
Snip....

Unless you know someone with one of these?
[img]http://www.ttr.com/images/hist2.jpg[/img]

Spotted:

a replacement and additional digital one on the A406 between Angel and Redbridge. Just before the M11 junctions.

First one is just after you come up out from under the bridge, and the second is about quarter of a mile on.

lets be honest...

taller and smaller - that has nothing to do with vandalism, its because they will be harder to spot, more chance of catching you!

[quote name='Niraj' post='350748' date='May 3 2006, 11:03 AM']Spotted:

a replacement and additional digital one on the A406 between Angel and Redbridge. Just before the M11 junctions.

First one is just after you come up out from under the bridge, and the second is about quarter of a mile on.[/quote]

and there is a third about 200 yards further which is for the M11 trafic, thats like 3 in less than a mile

[quote name='SHAHZ' post='350971' date='May 4 2006, 08:05 AM'][quote name='Niraj' post='350748' date='May 3 2006, 11:03 AM']
Spotted:

a replacement and additional digital one on the A406 between Angel and Redbridge. Just before the M11 junctions.

First one is just after you come up out from under the bridge, and the second is about quarter of a mile on.[/quote]

and there is a third about 200 yards further which is for the M11 trafic, thats like 3 in less than a mile
[/quote]

It's such a wide road that bit... mind you, it was easy to catch some speed down there... i guess that won't be happening again anytime soon.

Do these ones flash?

I don't think they do! ...?

[quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']Do these ones flash?[/quote]

nope

[quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']Do these ones flash?[/quote]
You've never got a speeding ticket in the GS already fella?!

[quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']Do these ones flash?[/quote]
Never mind that, do they burn?
[img]http://www.speedcam.co.uk/baking.jpg[/img]

Yes but thats why they are so high,we could always train a chimp.

[quote name='aido' post='373515' date='Aug 10 2006, 03:13 PM'][quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']
Do these ones flash?[/quote]
You've never got a speeding ticket in the GS already fella?!
[/quote]
not yet fella, just trying to make sure that I dont

[quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']Do these ones flash?[/quote]

all u need is pocketgpsworld's speedcamera database and that helps a lot to warn you where they are!

[quote name='maneesh' post='373861' date='Aug 11 2006, 11:01 AM'][quote name='P4UL T' post='373472' date='Aug 10 2006, 11:50 AM']
Do these ones flash?[/quote]

all u need is pocketgpsworld's speedcamera database and that helps a lot to warn you where they are!
[/quote]
Got that on my Garmin unit

is there a product that could help us go undetected

[quote name='fitchett87' post='396270' date='Nov 18 2006, 11:50 AM']is there a product that could help us go undetected [/quote]


Its called using your brain to tell your right foot not to be so heavy.

ye thanks

got done by the one on rainham road thanks for the info scarface guess im funding some more camras then and the insurance goes up nice.