OK, I bought a Blitz SUS Power induction kit for my GS, despite the box saying it was meant for Aristo Twin Turbo model. I was so excited when fitting it..that noise to look forward to..

Started to remove factory airbox, and was ready to fit the Blitz, when

the pipe going from the blitz kit to the Y bend coming off the throttle body won't go inside the Y bend..they are exactly the same size..see pics..

In order to make the Blitz fit, I need to get the Blitz pipe a good three inches inside the Y bend, which means a new Y bend..possibly one off an Aristo...as I guess it's bigger

What do u lot think?

This is the plastic pipe that I need to stick the Blitz pipe into...
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81061188-M.jpg[/img]

This shows you that the Blitz pipe is the same size as the plastic pipe
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81061534-M.jpg[/img]

Another shot
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81061788-M.jpg[/img]

The filter itself
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81060852-M.jpg[/img]

Mate.....you were a bit premature on this one, the LM kit will not work with the N/A engine.

Can you not get another bit of hose, slightly bigger to clamp over both pipes?

[quote name='ad77' post='365593' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:13 PM']Can you not get another bit of hose, slightly bigger to clamp over both pipes?[/quote]

my thinking exactly

[quote name='Mr Morse' post='365592' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:12 PM']Mate.....you were a bit premature on this one, the LM kit will not work with the N/A engine.[/quote]


[quote name='ad77' post='365593' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:13 PM']Can you not get another bit of hose, slightly bigger to clamp over both pipes? But it looks like you might have to change anyway.[/quote]

[quote name='Mr Morse' post='365592' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:12 PM']Mate.....you were a bit premature on this one, the LM kit will not work with the N/A engine.[/quote]

Perhaps, but I've got the SUS power kit. Can't I just get a plastic bendy pipe off an Aristo?

[quote name='i_love_my_IS200' post='365595' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:14 PM'][quote name='ad77' post='365593' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:13 PM']
Can you not get another bit of hose, slightly bigger to clamp over both pipes?[/quote]

my thinking exactly
[/quote]
That is a perfectly good idea, except then the cone filter won't fit at the other end. I need to push the Blitz pipe inside the bendy pipe.

[quote name='maneesh' post='365598' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:18 PM'][quote name='Mr Morse' post='365592' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:12 PM']
Mate.....you were a bit premature on this one, the LM kit will not work with the N/A engine.[/quote]

Perhaps, but I've got the SUS power kit. Can't I just get a plastic bendy pipe off an Aristo?

[quote name='i_love_my_IS200' post='365595' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:14 PM'][quote name='ad77' post='365593' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:13 PM']
Can you not get another bit of hose, slightly bigger to clamp over both pipes?[/quote]

my thinking exactly
[/quote]
That is a perfectly good idea, except then the cone filter won't fit at the other end. I need to push the Blitz pipe inside the bendy pipe.
[/quote]

You only need a very small length of pipe that goes over the ones that are the same size. This will hold it together and you will still be able to use all of the original parts that you've got.... Or are you saying that it will be too long, if done this way ?

If it'll be too long, which i'm not sure it would be anyway, you could always cut a little away from one of the pipes to allow for the connecting piece of tubing??

Yes too long that way..at least that's how it appeared tonight..a mate of mine has got the silicone tubing you mention, so I could at least give it a go..

Doh! I just had an idea!

Why don't I just attach the filter straight onto the factory pipe that also has the MAF connector, and see if that offers enough room for the filter?

You could do .... but

1) It would lose the bling factor ...........
2) I'm sure in there tests somewhere, they would have calculated that the pipe would have to be a certain length ?

Your engine :
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81061188-M.jpg[/img]

Aristo Engine (Dave Ellen) :
[img]http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/1143675430/med_gallery_1069_112_991054.jpg[/img]

I got enough bling to go around the world...

Yes, all you need now is 10p to ring someone .............

[quote name='ScarFace' post='365623' date='Jul 11 2006, 10:56 PM']You could do .... but

1) It would lose the bling factor ...........
2) I'm sure in there tests somewhere, they would have calculated that the pipe would have to be a certain length ?

Your engine :
[img]http://rasputin.smugmug.com/photos/81061188-M.jpg[/img]

Aristo Engine (Dave Ellen) :
[img]http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/1143675430/med_gallery_1069_112_991054.jpg[/img][/quote]


its very clean now

Ok, another mate of mine has said that even if I end up fitting this filter onto my car, if I use the Blitz supplied pipe to fit it, then I will be drawing more cold air into the engine than with the factory pipe, and I will be running too lean, which will cause issues..is this true or mostly ?

Yes .... it's the same with all air intakes mate......... you might not actually 'notice' it ....

That's when you then get your self the decent zorst ....... and get it mapped properly ... IE Camcon ... etc

[quote name='ScarFace' post='365866' date='Jul 12 2006, 06:26 PM']Yes .... it's the same with all air intakes mate......... you might not actually 'notice' it ....

That's when you then get your self the decent zorst ....... and get it mapped properly ... IE Camcon ... etc [/quote]

TRD zausts are arriving next week, and I'm looking at the SAFC II as well..

Notice it - puhlease...I don't drive fast enough to notice it

Absolute Bolacks, you'll be drawing in more HOT air.

Not really a problem on a N/A, more so for forced induction though.

[quote name='Ahhhh__Aristo' post='365874' date='Jul 12 2006, 06:40 PM']Absolute Bolacks, you'll be drawing in more HOT air.

Not really a problem on a N/A, more so for forced induction though.[/quote]
It's not bollox ........ I had the same problem on mine, I was running to lean.

With induction kits, you suck in air that's in the engine bay, as it no longer has a direct cold air feed, why do you think people spend big bucks on cold air boxes??

As for running lean, can't see it myself with these ECU's.

i used to own an audi coupe with a 'pancake' filter directly fitted to the carb, it suffered from carb icing..........

there a big debate on TIF (toyota imports forum) and lots of data.........

best results are from keeping OEM system BUT drilling 3 * 2 " holes in the air filter housing...idea being Mr T's ducts work well getting cold air up through the bumper and the 3 extra holes let the air from the headlight area get in as well...........fir aftermarket filter......

I have actual data from Mike Morse car which proves the K&N induction kits air temp at the intake is higher than stock.

Cant comment on this set up but would wager the same is true

So I guess if I manage to fit this bleedin' blitz thingy, then I better start building my own cold air box too?

[quote name='maneesh' post='365886' date='Jul 12 2006, 07:04 PM']So I guess if I manage to fit this bleedin' blitz thingy, then I better start building my own cold air box too?[/quote]


IMHO I'd box it up & sell on ebay.........get a K&N or TRD filter for the OEM housing and try the TIF option..........pop over and do a search............all sorts on there.

It's basic common knowledge that with induction kits, the engine sucks in hotter air, it's got nothing to do with more air.

The air capacity doesn't increase, it just allows air to be sucked in quicker, but with the downside of it being hotter air.

In colder weather a forced induction engine can run up to 10% more power because there's more air (denser air) which equals more fuel, which equals a bigger bang.

Basic engine knowledge.

[quote name='maneesh' post='365873' date='Jul 12 2006, 06:40 PM']TRD zausts are arriving next week, and I'm looking at the SAFC II as well..

Notice it - puhlease...I don't drive fast enough to notice it [/quote]


I've been told by others not to bother getting a SAFC as the ECU will tune it out after awhile, so basically they are a waste of money......

Camcon seems to be the way to go!

[quote name='ProLex-UK' post='365890' date='Jul 12 2006, 07:11 PM'][quote name='maneesh' post='365886' date='Jul 12 2006, 07:04 PM']
So I guess if I manage to fit this bleedin' blitz thingy, then I better start building my own cold air box too?[/quote]


IMHO I'd box it up & sell on ebay.........get a K&N or TRD filter for the OEM housing and try the TIF option..........pop over and do a search............all sorts on there.
[/quote]

Cool. Thanks. Perhaps I should just buy the aristo currently on ebay, and then I will have no problems installing the Blitz

Maneesh, remember we had this conversation a few weeks back.
My 40 quidder from fleabay came with a reducer to make the connection using the original hose clips (or needed maybe one new clip, can`t remember exactly).
I sent you this pic but will add it for the others.
I also shrouded the filter to prevent/cut down on heatsoak. This pic was obviously taken beforehand.

[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d117/lickmajeer/Kit2.jpg[/img]




As for the 'sound'. It actually sounded better with the original intake system but then again, I do have aftermarket tailpipes.



[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d117/lickmajeer/lex01.jpg[/img]


I'll post a pic of the shroud next week if I remember. I'm off on my hols 3 days after I get home.


Good luck with it though.

Andy

Cheers, that's very useful to know.