evoelf
August 14, 2007, 11:20 am
Hi all, I brought an IS200 last week. From what i can gather the lights behind the clocks have been changed from orange to blue.
For the last week everything has been fine not one thing i could fault, but the other night i was on my way home and the lights behind the rev counter started to blink.
I adjusted the dimmer and reduced the brightness and it stopped... turn it back up and it starts blinking again
If it was my 3 series i'd of had the clocks out but being new to the lexus i dont feel confident about toying to much & wanna see if anyone has had a similar problem.
Would anyone advise putting the replacing the blue bulbs with standard again?
Thanks in advance
WylieCoyote
August 14, 2007, 11:37 am
Is the car known to LOC do you know? Try ringing the previous owner and see what he/she says about it.
Welcome by the way
Keith
evoelf
August 14, 2007, 11:46 am
[quote name='WylieCoyote' post='462153' date='Aug 14 2007, 12:37 PM']Is the car known to LOC do you know? Try ringing the previous owner and see what he/she says about it.
Welcome by the way
Keith[/quote]
Got no idea if its known here... Brought the car from a dealer near my office. I've got no idea where he picked it up from.
Its the only evidence of a mod i can find on the car. Other than the blue lights the car is completely stock.
How simple is it to remove the clocks?
Moffet
August 14, 2007, 12:48 pm
Not difficult to remove mate, and if I remember rightly the bulbs are all twist locks into the back so you don't have to open up the binnacle. Obviously this depends on how it was modded though.
Think I've got a guide on how to do it in my bookmarks on my home computer - will post a link up when I'm at home later on...
Moffet
August 15, 2007, 7:07 pm
Sorry I didn't get this posted up yesterday, had computer problems!
Look [url="http://my.is/forums/f114/how-remove-cel-trac-lights-233511/"]here[/url].
Rob
August 15, 2007, 7:18 pm
you might find its one of the sh.....te kits from ebay - if it is throw it in the bin thats where it belongs!
evoelf
August 16, 2007, 12:11 pm
I dont believe its an ebay kit.
I couldn't see half my clocks last night so I took the clocks out this morning before work & it seems like the bulbs have been replaced with some cheapo LEDs.
I was having a browse last night and found this site [url="http://www.dashlights.co.uk/cart.php?target=category&category_id=277"]DashLights.com - 509T / 286T Bulbs[/url].
From what i've read they seem to be a direct replacement. Can anyone confirm that it is this type of bulb?
Cheers
Rob
August 16, 2007, 12:25 pm
thats the style of bulbs but from what i remember the standard fit bulbs are flush mount instead of having a small piece to grab hold of
evoelf
August 16, 2007, 12:40 pm
Cool. Gonna stop at maplins on the way home and a small car shop in crayford (the guy has loads of different types of bulbs).
If there's none there then i'll be ordering a few from dashlights.co.uk
kev dood
August 16, 2007, 3:10 pm
Just a thought, but if its ok when you turn the brightness control down a little, but its not good when on full - could it be the little potentiometer that controls the brightness - i.e. whats behind this knob?
Sometimes the wiper section on them corrode a little if they remain in the same place forever.
evoelf
August 17, 2007, 11:17 am
Sorted... I picked up some clear replacement & spare bulbs. The 3 main bulbs that light the clocks are the same fitment as the side indicator and the sidelights in the headlamp.
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/E_L_F/DSC02827.jpg[/img]
A solid improvement if i dont say myself
Also changed the sidelights
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/E_L_F/DSC02839.jpg[/img]
Rikos
August 17, 2007, 11:20 am
Looking good mate glad you got it sorted
Fin_IS_200
August 17, 2007, 1:28 pm
Looking [url="http://users.erols.com/mervine/IS300/bulb14.jpg"]this[/url] picture, are the bulbs for the meters under that panel ? Approx how many or even better if someone can find a pic.
And are they all 5mm [url="http://aceparts.com/all-led-bulbs/509t-twist-fit-dash-board-led-1.htm"]Twist Fit[/url]
Thanks
evoelf
August 17, 2007, 2:11 pm
[quote name='Fin_IS_200' post='463240' date='Aug 17 2007, 02:28 PM']Looking [url="http://users.erols.com/mervine/IS300/bulb14.jpg"]this[/url] picture, are the bulbs for the meters under that panel ? Approx how many or even better if someone can find a pic.
And are they all 5mm [url="http://aceparts.com/all-led-bulbs/509t-twist-fit-dash-board-led-1.htm"]Twist Fit[/url]
Thanks[/quote]
There are 20 bulbs in total.
[img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y34/E_L_F/bulb14.jpg[/img]
All of the bulbs circled in red are 5mm. The bulbs circled in green are 10mm.
I dismantled the clocks last night to see if there were any aditional bulbs that could be replaced but all i could find is what is highlighted on the pic above, so i'd assume that they would include the bulbs for the meters. But i could be wrong
I paid £1 a bulb. Hope this helps
Fin_IS_200
August 17, 2007, 2:24 pm
Okay, Thanks, i still have to know which bulb is for what. Guess ill just take it off today.
evoelf
August 17, 2007, 3:18 pm
[quote name='Fin_IS_200' post='463268' date='Aug 17 2007, 03:24 PM']Okay, Thanks, i still have to know which bulb is for what. Guess ill just take it off today.[/quote]
There should be a label printed on the PCB next to each bulb
WylieCoyote
August 20, 2007, 12:42 pm
So I assume that by replacing the lamps you could make the dash any colour you wanted?
Fin_IS_200
August 20, 2007, 1:18 pm
Pretty much yes.
Theres 5 [url="http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/1185358882/gallery_17135_335_24803.jpg"]bulbs[/url] for the backround lighting. 2x 5mm and 3x 10mm.
Can someone confirm that ? cause i didnt change the bulbs yet...
evoelf
August 21, 2007, 12:55 pm
[quote name='Fin_IS_200' post='464071' date='Aug 20 2007, 02:18 PM']Pretty much yes.
Theres 5 [url="http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/uploads/1185358882/gallery_17135_335_24803.jpg"]bulbs[/url] for the backround lighting. 2x 5mm and 3x 10mm.
Can someone confirm that ? cause i didnt change the bulbs yet...[/quote]
Yup its those 5. When I changed mine they were the only bulbs that had been replaced with blue LED's.
All of the others were still clear.
Fin_IS_200
September 2, 2007, 1:33 pm
I just searched ultraleds.co.uk and aceparts.com, and i just cant find those 10mm twist-fit bulbs
509T stands for the 5mm twist-fit right ? So where to get 10mm ?
Thanks
Fin_IS_200
September 29, 2007, 6:15 pm
This is how my dials look now...gonna change the colours but heres the idea i was after
[img]http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r283/hessu_hopo/IMG_2067.jpg[/img]
evoelf
October 3, 2007, 9:13 am
[quote name='Fin_IS_200' post='467745' date='Sep 2 2007, 01:33 PM']I just searched ultraleds.co.uk and aceparts.com, and i just cant find those 10mm twist-fit bulbs
509T stands for the 5mm twist-fit right ? So where to get 10mm ?
Thanks[/quote]
You should be able to pull the 10mm bulbs out of the original twistlock holder and the new bulbs should be a push fit.
The 10mm bulbs are the same as the side lights. I got mine from a local car "bits & bobs" shop
Have you made any contact with dashlights.co.uk to see if they can deliver to you?
Fin_IS_200
October 3, 2007, 11:56 am
[quote name='evoelf' post='474306' date='Oct 3 2007, 12:13 PM'][quote name='Fin_IS_200' post='467745' date='Sep 2 2007, 01:33 PM']I just searched ultraleds.co.uk and aceparts.com, and i just cant find those 10mm twist-fit bulbs
509T stands for the 5mm twist-fit right ? So where to get 10mm ?
Thanks[/quote]
You should be able to pull the 10mm bulbs out of the original twistlock holder and the new bulbs should be a push fit.
The 10mm bulbs are the same as the side lights. I got mine from a local car "bits & bobs" shop
[/quote]
Yeah i know it now, ordered from [url="http://superlumination.com/"]Superlumination.com[/url]
merlin 99
October 4, 2007, 10:47 am
guess whos got a friend thats a prodution manager in a miniture light bulb factory
guess whos gonna try and have a blue dash
will the climate bit too if i can do the dash !
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j311/Merlinteggi/DSC0379.jpg[/img]
evoelf
October 4, 2007, 12:02 pm
[quote name='merlin 99' post='474541' date='Oct 4 2007, 10:47 AM']guess whos got a friend thats a prodution manager in a miniture light bulb factory
guess whos gonna try and have a blue dash
will the climate bit too if i can do the dash !
[img]http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j311/Merlinteggi/DSC0379.jpg[/img][/quote]
LMAO....does that mean your gonna negotiate for an LOC discount for any1 else wanting bulbs
merlin 99
October 4, 2007, 12:15 pm
well !!
the web sites are selling them for about £1 each !!
when i told him he said they sell them for about £50 for 10000 to the auto industry !
they wont sell to the public but ill see what i can blag

:)
sparkystav
October 4, 2007, 12:25 pm
They won't work as well as LED's.
Fargo looked into the coloured filiment lamps when he was doin his conversion and he didn't recommend them.
Stav
evoelf
October 4, 2007, 12:27 pm
Thats why i changed mine. Whoever had it before me changed the dash bulbs for LEDs and i couldn't see half the clocks. Swapped them all for clear bulbs...absolutely beeming.
sparkystav
October 4, 2007, 12:33 pm
You have to replace the dash bulbs with wide angle LED's or you come up with the problem you had.
I've replced my bulbs with LED's and if you look in my registry (Click the Sig) you'll see you can see them all perfectly.
However it was found that esp for the A/C lights (that normally use a fibre optic type system to spread the light) that the blue coloured bulds don't spread the light well.
Stav
merlin 99
October 4, 2007, 1:04 pm
well it aint cost me anything as yet !
and if they dont work then ill put the om ones back !
and get my mate to spray them in a lighter blue or get him to find me some brighter ones !

:)

:)
merlin 99
October 8, 2007, 10:51 am
[quote name='sparkystav' post='474571' date='Oct 4 2007, 01:25 PM']They won't work as well as LED's.
Fargo looked into the coloured filiment lamps when he was doin his conversion and he didn't recommend them.
Stav[/quote]
thay worked (ish)
the display was nice and consistant and no noiticeable patches !
but far too dark to see the dials

:(
i have my friend hopefully spraying some more but this time a lot thinner coat of blue !
will try again

:)
sparkystav
October 8, 2007, 12:54 pm
I did try to say.
Let us know how you get on though.
Stav
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