Whoosh
Jan 29 2008, 11:47 AM
I have had the Dunlop Sportmaxx tyres on my IS 250SE-L for the last two years and have just changed them all to Toyo T1-R’s after reading various reports on them and seeing that Lexus use them now as original equipment tyres.
The first thing that my wife and I noticed was that they are much quieter than the Dunlops, we estimate at least 25% less road/tyre noise coming into the cabin from the Toyos.
At first we both had mixed thoughts whether it improved the handling or not but after a couple of hundred miles to “bed in” and a late night trip back from friends on some A roads (non dual carriageway) I am now convinced that they are better. To be honest even if the handling had not improved it would still have been a good change as the car is so much quieter. I just wonder how quick they will wear now, better or worse than the Dunlops.
Also at £414 fitted & balanced from my local tyre dealer they were a lot cheaper.
I hope this is of help to anyone thinking of replacing their tyres.
DJ Wozza
Jan 29 2008, 12:18 PM
Do you have the Tyre sizes for your car please ?
ihpj
Jan 29 2008, 12:41 PM
I think the Toyos in either T-1R or the newer T-1S treads are supposed to be very competent tyres. Like the Kumhos - they appear to have been very well received. Would be interested to know how you find them once they start to wear down though - as the Michelin Pilots grip right to the end.
SHAHZ
Jan 29 2008, 01:06 PM
T1 Rs are the newer ones
Tango
Jan 29 2008, 02:44 PM
QUOTE(SHAHZ @ Jan 29 2008, 01:06 PM)

T1 Rs are the newer ones
Just going to say that....the T1-R supercedes the T1-S (for improved wet performance). T1-S is being phased out by Toyo as more sizes in the T1-R are made available. I've had Toyo T1-R's on my IS250 for over a year now...first thing I noticed was the drop in the road noise.
As a result of my experience with the T1-R's I have put Toyo Proxes 4 on my IS200 Sport. The Proxes 4 have been developed as a high performance tyre since the T1-R.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/
Einstein
Jan 29 2008, 11:39 PM
Used Toyo's for years... T1-S and T1-R's and never had one grumble from them...
only other tyre that came close was the original Bridgestone Potenza RE-77.
John
Whoosh
Jan 30 2008, 09:21 AM
QUOTE(DJ Wozza @ Jan 29 2008, 12:18 PM)

Do you have the Tyre sizes for your car please ?
Here we DJ Wozza taken from the tyre.
The fronts are 225/45 ZR17 94y
The rears are 245/45 ZR17 99y
Tango.
My dealer thought about the Proxes 4 but you can't get the rear 245's in them, hence the T1-R's
From Toyo's website these are the sizes available.
Proxes 4 Sizes (available later in 2007)
Size
235/35ZR19 91Y
215/35ZR19 85W
205/40ZR18 86W
215/40ZR18 89W
225/40ZR18 92W
225/45ZR18 95W
195/40ZR17 91W
215/40ZR17 87W
205/45ZR17 88W
215/45ZR17 91W
225/45ZR17 94W
195/40 R16 80V
205/40 R16 83W
215/40ZR16 86W
195/45ZR15 78V
DJ Wozza
Jan 30 2008, 12:31 PM
Cheers for that. Proxes out the window then doh !
I need 225/40x18 & 255/40x18 but not just yet
ihpj
Jan 30 2008, 09:10 PM
QUOTE(SHAHZ @ Jan 29 2008, 01:06 PM)

T1 Rs are the newer ones
I knew I was going to get this one wrong

Both tyres are still very good though.
Tango
Jan 31 2008, 06:15 PM
QUOTE
Tango.
My dealer thought about the Proxes 4 but you can't get the rear 245's in them, hence the T1-R's
From Toyo's website these are the sizes available.
Proxes 4 Sizes (available later in 2007)
Size
235/35ZR19 91Y
215/35ZR19 85W
205/40ZR18 86W
215/40ZR18 89W
225/40ZR18 92W
225/45ZR18 95W
195/40ZR17 91W
215/40ZR17 87W
205/45ZR17 88W
215/45ZR17 91W
225/45ZR17 94W
195/40 R16 80V
205/40 R16 83W
215/40ZR16 86W
195/45ZR15 78V
Yes I know, that's why I've only got them on the IS200 (17"), as my 250 has T1-R: -
225/25ZR19 on the front
275/30ZR19 on the rear
Am I reading these posts correct as Toyo do not offer a complete range of tyres for the IS250 eg,I need 18/255/40 for my rears not thinner tyres that will marginally offer a better ride & lower noise level?
Tel.
DJ Wozza
Feb 1 2008, 08:35 AM
only in the Proxes fitment Tel, should be fine with the 255/40x18's with the T1-R
Check the
Toyo website for more details.
They are coming as a standard fitment option on the Sport 18" rims these days
chandru
Feb 1 2008, 01:15 PM
just got a courtesy car and the is250 se-l had toyo's on them. toyo proxes r32. these aint the same as t1-r's are they? are the proxes r32 what come as standard now?
chandru
Feb 2 2008, 08:02 PM
just looked on toyps website..didnt realise lex officially use toyos as standard now..the proxes r32..which looks like has been made specifically for the lex 17" alloys.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/uploads/car%20tyre%20brochure%2006.pdf
GaryC
May 7 2008, 11:39 AM
QUOTE(Tango @ Jan 29 2008, 03:44 PM)

I've had Toyo T1-R's on my IS250 for over a year now...first thing I noticed was the drop in the road noise.
This is the only slight gripe with my IS250. Everything is dandy but I'm sure the road noise could be improved. The stock tyres on my car are the Dunlop SPs. I will change them to the Toyo tyres when they are due for changing.
GaryC
May 7 2008, 04:27 PM
QUOTE(chandru @ Feb 2 2008, 09:02 PM)

just looked on toyps website..didnt realise lex officially use toyos as standard now..the proxes r32..which looks like has been made specifically for the lex 17" alloys.
http://www.toyo.co.uk/uploads/car%20tyre%20brochure%2006.pdfWell my IS250 is a brand new car and they aren't Toyo's - they are Dunlop SP sports.
DJ Wozza
May 7 2008, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(GaryC @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)

Well my IS250 is a brand new car and they aren't Toyo's - they are Dunlop SP sports.
In what sizes ?
GaryC
May 7 2008, 08:02 PM
QUOTE(DJ Wozza @ May 7 2008, 07:27 PM)

QUOTE(GaryC @ May 7 2008, 05:27 PM)

Well my IS250 is a brand new car and they aren't Toyo's - they are Dunlop SP sports.
In what sizes ?
Standard 17" alloys. Not looked at the wheel for exact sizes.
chandru
May 7 2008, 10:38 PM
guess it depends on certain issues that i dont know

but those proxes r32 are made/designed for the new gen IS. not sure if it is dependant on when it was made etc
DJ Wozza
May 8 2008, 12:35 AM
I don't think these new R32 Toyos are manufactured in the IS250 18" Sport rim size
Einstein
May 8 2008, 07:27 AM
Either way, the T1-R's are still the better tyre.
John
matt555
May 29 2008, 09:07 PM
Just bumping this one up for the tyre shopping ladies....
Purvesh
May 29 2008, 10:26 PM
Yeah I'm running T1-S's on my 18" rims aswell. Will upload some pics when the car comes back from the bodyshop.
Noel
May 29 2008, 11:11 PM
Personally i think the T1-R's were ok but abit over hyped... I fitted them purely because of the great reviews they got on this site... but i found them to wear quickly and when pushed they broke away inconsistently...
anyway replaced them with Goodyear F1's (GS-DE) and there's no going back to the Toyo's for me... more grip wet and dry and when pushed you'd know exactly when they were breaking free and how they'd come back in nice and without drama....
also when saying goodbye to a tyre i usually have a bit of fun and found the Toyo rubber came away in big strips whereas the Goodyear stayed together and just wore down to the wire... different class alltogether as far as I'm concerned..... just my few cents
Parthiban
May 30 2008, 08:29 AM
QUOTE(Noel @ May 30 2008, 12:11 AM)

found the Toyo rubber came away in big strips
Reason I've always stayed away from Toyo is that I keep reading stuff about how there's a huge quality difference between their tyres - sounds like you got some of the bad ones.
Agree about the Goodyears, I'm on the new F1 Asymmetrics and they are a fantastic tyre - quiet with incredible grip
matt555
May 30 2008, 08:47 AM
Anyone got the sizes to hand for the 18's?
Just looking into availability and can't remember...... well it's friday eh ;0)
Purvesh
May 30 2008, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(matt555 @ May 30 2008, 09:47 AM)

Anyone got the sizes to hand for the 18's?
Just looking into availability and can't remember...... well it's friday eh ;0)
Did you miss page one aswell!?
205/40ZR18 86W
215/40ZR18 89W
225/40ZR18 92W
225/45ZR18 95W
matt555
May 30 2008, 11:43 AM
QUOTE(purvesh81 @ May 30 2008, 11:29 AM)

QUOTE(matt555 @ May 30 2008, 09:47 AM)

Anyone got the sizes to hand for the 18's?
Just looking into availability and can't remember...... well it's friday eh ;0)
Did you miss page one aswell!?
205/40ZR18 86W
215/40ZR18 89W
225/40ZR18 92W
225/45ZR18 95W
Clearly
But they aren't right! I think these might be though........ 225/40x18 fronts & 255/40x18 rears.
Roonaldo
May 30 2008, 11:53 AM
QUOTE(Noel @ May 30 2008, 12:11 AM)

Personally i think the T1-R's were ok but abit over hyped... I fitted them purely because of the great reviews they got on this site... but i found them to wear quickly and when pushed they broke away inconsistently...
anyway replaced them with Goodyear F1's (GS-DE) and there's no going back to the Toyo's for me... more grip wet and dry and when pushed you'd know exactly when they were breaking free and how they'd come back in nice and without drama....
also when saying goodbye to a tyre i usually have a bit of fun and found the Toyo rubber came away in big strips whereas the Goodyear stayed together and just wore down to the wire... different class alltogether as far as I'm concerned..... just my few cents

Whats the road noise on the Goodyear F1 GS-DE compared to the Toyo T1-R?
Thanks,
Noel
May 30 2008, 12:22 PM
QUOTE(Roonaldo @ May 30 2008, 12:53 PM)

QUOTE(Noel @ May 30 2008, 12:11 AM)

Personally i think the T1-R's were ok but abit over hyped... I fitted them purely because of the great reviews they got on this site... but i found them to wear quickly and when pushed they broke away inconsistently...
anyway replaced them with Goodyear F1's (GS-DE) and there's no going back to the Toyo's for me... more grip wet and dry and when pushed you'd know exactly when they were breaking free and how they'd come back in nice and without drama....
also when saying goodbye to a tyre i usually have a bit of fun and found the Toyo rubber came away in big strips whereas the Goodyear stayed together and just wore down to the wire... different class alltogether as far as I'm concerned..... just my few cents

Whats the road noise on the Goodyear F1 GS-DE compared to the Toyo T1-R?
Thanks,
Hard to hear as Altezza RS200 aren't refined....
Martin UK
May 31 2008, 05:54 PM
Just got a set of khumo's for the IS 250 sport 06 plate dont bother getting them is like trying to roller skate on an ice rink.
heavy rain on the M6 on wednesday and i nealy got out and walked it would have been safer but not dryer!
Purvesh
May 31 2008, 09:01 PM
QUOTE(Martin UK @ May 31 2008, 06:54 PM)

Just got a set of khumo's for the IS 250 sport 06 plate dont bother getting them is like trying to roller skate on an ice rink.
heavy rain on the M6 on wednesday and i nealy got out and walked it would have been safer but not dryer!
That's going to be a few tentative miles from now on then!?
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