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tdiplc
This was sent to me by Special Spam Delivery - wadya think?

For those that do not know ALBION means white and is the name of our island given to us by Julius Caesar when he stood on the coast of Gaul (now Normandy) and saw the white cliffs of Dover across the Straights of Dover which the french call Pas de Calais but as Dover became a town before Calais the french can p..s off.

I have often said that the paddys, scots and welsh all celebrate their day but all we do is put up the St. George flag on churchs and most englishman do not even know what date St. Georges day falls on.

It is nice to see that since Scottish and Welsh independence 3 years ago that the UNION FLAG (not Union Jack as the navy has that) has almost disappeared at ENGLISH football internationals and replaced with the St. Georges Flag. All we now need to do is change our international GB plate on cars as Great Britain included the emerall isle and we don't own that since 1922 and finally why not get rid of UK aswell in such things as the European Song Contest as our nationality is English and not United kindomians!
And in respect to Scottish and Welsh assemblys - how come they get their own parliaments and are allowed a seat in our Parliament????????????????????????????

Now you see why I only sell land in ENGLAND and not foreign countrys like Scotland, wales and ireland!

Enjoy the following.
regards
Victor


Subject: FW: St George's Day


How true is this







St George's Day

TO be born English is to have won first prize in the lottery of life.

To be English is to be part of the world's richest culture. From this
sceptred isle sprang talents as diverse as Orwell and Chaplin, Kipling
and Shakespeare, Nelson and Joe Strummer.

In every field, in every era, the evidence of English greatness is there
for all to see, from the enduring genius of Elgar to the magic of
Michael Owen's goal against the Argies. As Ian Dury once sang: "There
are jewels in the crown of England's glory, too numerous to mention, but
a few."

OK, not many of us know more than the first two lines of There'll Always
Be An England, but we do know that our country gave the world football,
cricket, rugby, tennis, the Beatles and Dickens.

As a people we are not given to chest beating. Reserve and restraint are
as much English qualities as inventiveness and enterprise. But we do
resent the way Englishness is sneered at by the chattering classes. For
them, the cross of St George is tainted by memories of empire (even
though the Royal Navy smashed the slave trade). It has been like this
for decades. More than 50 years ago, George Orwell wrote that "England
is perhaps the only great country whose intellectuals are ashamed of
their nationality."

These sniggering fools don't even know the roots of their own
radicalism. For every Francis Drake in English history there was a Wat
Tyler. For every Wellington there was a Captain Swing. Military
achievement understandably shaped our self image. The stout Yeomen of
England have been beating off invaders for centuries.
We saw off Bonaparte and smashed the Spanish Armada. But England gave
the world parliamentary democracy and the trade unions too.

We are strong-willed people, rightly proud of our traditions of free
speech and tolerance. Our defining national characteristic is
"constructive bloodymindedness" according to Keith Waterhouse, one of
the greatest living Englishmen. Illustrated by the phrase "thus far and
no further", it is why most of us refuse to take Europe seriously.
European? Never. I was born English and I will die English, (unless
Newcastle achieves independence).

A soggy croissant will never replace egg, bacon and buttered toast.
Whether your England is summed up by a bowler hat or a pit helmet, punk
rock or Morris dancers, there are few national tapestries as rich as our
beloved Albion's.

My England is bubble and squeak and foaming pints of Boddingtons. It is
Les Dawson and Barbara Windsor, Max Miller and Page Three. My England is
pie and mash and Aston Martins, Derby day and Arfur Daley, Mods and
Suedeheads, Lennie McLean and Carry On films. My England stretches from
Dennis Skinner to Roger Scruton, from Peggy Mount to Beki Bondage. It's
Blackpool beach, Charlie Drake, Middlesbrough FC, roast beef,
imperial measurements and vindaloo. It's defiance. Whether it be King
Alfred standing up to the Vikings, Colonel H at Goose Green, or the
Metric Martyrs giving the finger to Brussels. No-one likes us! We don't
care!

And of course it is a national disgrace that TV gives St George a blank.

But what do they know? How often do they get anything right?

If you are English turn off the TV on April 23rd and get down the pub,
preferrably in a fine Longshanks shirt. As Chesterton wrote: "St George
he was for England and before he slew the dragon, he drank a pint of
English ale out of an English flagon."

Enjoy yourself this St. George's Day. And remember, there will always be
an England.
tony_hetherington
Why would it be racist?

It's tone could maybe be a little less overpowering, but it's basically just very patriotic!!

Racism's slurring other nationalities/races etc - not promoting your own (at least that's my opinion anyhow!)
BASH83
[quote name='tdiplc' date='Mar 19 2003, 12:44 PM']Now you see why I only sell land in ENGLAND and not foreign countrys like Scotland, wales and ireland![/quote]
The Act of Union 1707....anyone?

there are Scots,Welsh,N.Irish and Rep Ireland(they are allowed to join y'know) service personnel repesenting the UK on Op Telic.

the deadline passed 35 mins ago and soon we will be at war.

now is not the time for individual patriotism.

We are the UK

United we stand,divided we fall.
tony_hetherington
[quote name='BASH83' date='Mar 20 2003, 01:28 AM']the deadline passed 35 mins ago and soon we will be at war.

now is not the time for individual patriotism.

We are the UK

United we stand,divided we fall.[/quote]
I think you took that post a little seriously my friend - I'm certain it wasn't meant as an antagonistic post - far from it in fact.

However, getting back to the point in hand.....war would not exist without patriotism. If the US wasn't proud of it's country, proud of it's people, if Sadam wasn't so intent on not leaving his country, if the UK wasn't so intent on appearing strong and keeping relations strong, this war would not exist. Of course there are other factors I realise.

Incidentally - and please dont take this in a critical way, I genuinely ask out of curiosity and interest - I see you are from Fife (N. Ireland right?) and so are part of the UK (England, N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales). You said N Ireland and Rep Ireland are allowed to join. So if they joined and became one, would you consider yourself Irish, or would you consider yourself part of the United Kingdom?
GRiM
[quote name='tony_hetherington @ Mar 20 2003' date='09:45 AM'].... I see you are from Fife (N. Ireland right?) and so are part of the UK (England, N. Ireland, Scotland, Wales)....[/quote]

Fife in N.Ireland?? :lol: :luck:
dazzab69
Spot on TDIPLC, I always put English as nationality on any form I find (especially if it's going to DVLC in Swansea :D ). Sod the rest of 'em.

One point though, St George was a Turk, so we even celebrate our English cultural diversity in our choice of patron saint !
tony_hetherington
[quote name='GRiM' date='Mar 20 2003, 10:43 AM']Fife in N.Ireland?? :lol: :luck:[/quote]
I guess that's a no then! (I know nothing about Irish geography.......so........what that does is confuse me by his comments even more)........

......if Fife is in Rep Ireland, then technically not part of the UK, right? Obviously he is genuinely for the unification of Ireland, and conseqeuntly Ireland into the United Kingdom.

Our troops, do they contain Irish troops as part of the UK troops? (not a sarcastic question, I genuinely dont know the answer) ?

[quote]One point though, St George was a Turk, so we even celebrate our English cultural diversity in our choice of patron saint ![/quote]

oh......and St Patrick was Welsh wasn't he? This saints thing does get very confusing
Matthew_McNally
errrrmmmmmm Tony?


think the point is that Fife is in Scotland? :blush:
tony_hetherington
ok.......i am officially a dumb a ss.

the frustrating thing? i actually knew that, i just ............

........oh hang on, i see what i did!!!

I just assumed he was irish. i'm a plank sometimes :)

[b]Feel free to shoot me down now for embarrassing myself in public.......[/b]

:withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid: :withstupid:
BASH83
[quote name='tony_hetherington' date='Mar 20 2003, 11:49 AM']Our troops, do they contain Irish troops as part of the UK troops?  (not a sarcastic question, I genuinely dont know the answer) ?


oh......and St Patrick was Welsh wasn't he?  This saints thing does get very confusing[/quote]
citizens of the Rep of Ireland can apply to serve as members of H.M Forces.

subject to security clearance. whether they get in or not is a different matter.

St.Patrick was Roman/English.50/50
BASH83
[quote name='tony_hetherington' date='Mar 20 2003, 11:49 AM']Obviously he is genuinely for the unification of Ireland, and conseqeuntly Ireland into the United Kingdom.[/quote]
no way my friend.

and jokingly i was always taught to never assume anything as it makes an A S S out of U and M E.


cheers

BASH


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