hello.just fitted a little black box from superlumination.com which makes my high level brake light flash rapidly for 2 seconds then stays on as long as you brake.looks great.dont know how pc plod will teke it. you need a led bulb for it to work.

Quite a few of us have these on the IS200

http://files.filefront.com/brakingmpg/;991...;/fileinfo.html

Is it legal?

yep, should be legal. this mod cause the high level brake light to pulse, not the standard brake lights like in the video of lee's IS.

i had the pulsing brake lights on mine but took them off, wouldn't mind having the high level brake light pulse.

have you got a link for this unit??

Has anyone gone through a MOT with this mod?

sorry no link but if you go to site and click on wedge bulbs and scroll you come to em.will try find number.

Cut n paste the web site

its called a sequencer .will try add link.bear with me computers and me dont interact very will lol

think this is them??

http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm

noidea what size or spec would be needed.

in theory, these can be connected to any bulbs

Yeah they are legal, i believe the new Merc have this feature as standard.

Apparently makes people notice quiker, so less chance of going into the back of you.

Stav

http://superlumination.com/ sequenser control module.

Nah dont think there them, there to stop the light out lamp on the dash coming up i believe. and to stop them flashing too quick.

Stav

yep stav, that's correct mate. increases following driver reaction times.

these would look good on the high level brake light IMO or the standard brake lights, but using standard bulbs as the pulsing brake lights i had and many others, require load resistors and are not very bright in comparison to the standard rear sidelights.

interesting idea on the indicators stav....

here they are:

http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm

scroll down

i have it fitted to boot spoiler with the row of leds fitted.works great and tis dead bright.

Thats the ones! group buy anyone?

Stav

Off topic, you mean the ones in my garage mate?

yep.

just had a browse and saw them. interesting idea, not 100% sure on them yet, a couple other pictures would be good mate (get snapping and uploading )

would these pulse modules need load resistors also??

the other problem with the other pulse bulbs was that they work on a ball bearing mechanism, that sometimes doesn't trigger during heavy cornering or uneven surfaces etc. these look pretty good as long as its simple enough to do...

You'd have to change the Hign level light to an LED row though, though it'd work with the normal brake lights if youve changed them to LEDs and bought the dual circuit one.

It'd also work if youve done the brake fog mod with a single circuit one. Or a dual one if youve got your fogs working as sidelights as well.

If you understand what i mean.

Stav

I'll take a couple more snaps tomorrow.

As for the flashers, yeah these look good cause they work all the time not just under heavy braking. cant see any reason why theyd be illegal either.

Stav

now thats a belting idea!!!

right, here goes, what would i need if i want my fogs to pulse when i brake?? i have them wired just as fog-to-brake (i.e only come on when i press on the anchors), but they are standard filament bulbs.

any ideas mate??

also, how easy would they be to wire up, i'm not a electricwizardry guru like yourself mr stav...

Thats simple mate, you have them wired to come on when you brake, the brake signal come through a diode? yes?

So all you need is the single circuit one, cut the wire coming from your normal brakes to the diode, use it to join the wire back together (the right way round) and voila!

Though if you had LED lamps in the normal brakes, then just buy the dual circuit one, wire it in before you wire links off to the fog/brake mod, and it'll control all of them.
Though looking at the wiring diagrams you'll prob need two (one for each side) whereas if your just doing the fogs you only need one cause if you remember you only nick one source for both fogs

stav

yep, got a diode and a length of wire and thats it i think.

its the fogs i want to pulse, not the standard brakes

so i'd need white LED's for the fogs also?? any idea on size??

i presume the LED's will fit in the existing fog bulb holder?

then i just need one?? or two?? of these modules??

fancy getting some of these with me stav to save on postage?? could get my dad to sort it fromover there and sens them to us himself as it'll be cheaper than direct from the company (i would think)

Just updated my top post mate,

So you dont have LED fogs yet? Have a look at Aztecs thread and see what you need for them and order some off the same site?

Yeah i'll get some with ya, i'll pm ya.

Stav

don't see why i'd need anything other than the LED bulbs as the bulb out dash warning won't come on and the bulb holder should be the same.

i'll try find that thread from chris and will sort it out.

should look sweet!!

yeah you shouldnt do, i get the Light out bulb on now and again bit just ignore it, but thats from my LED rear lights.

didn't think the fogs are part of the warning light system bulb thing??

got a link for that thread u were on about??

Visit My WebsiteVisit My Websitea pic i think.

not working mate

Stav

click on the second visit my website.it may work. i hate computers. beer.

I've seen this before, and I'm not so keen on this, if it works everytime you brake, it would get really annoying in a traffic jam - the original pulse bulbs were a much better idea as they only flashed under heavy braking. Only problem with those was the light output wasn't enough as the LEDs were forward facing...........if only someone would make those bulbs with the LEDs on the sides...............

Gotta say it does look quite cool though, especially with the strip of LEDs on the spoiler

cheers ,mate.camera makes it brighter than it actualy is.mayde if it was the high level on the parcel shelf it wouldnt be bo bright.if they were infront they wouldnt see it at all.LOL

Yes mate, 2 MOTs now

How'd my video get on that site ???


Word of warning though lads, pulsing lights under heavy braking are legal. However if they were to pulse under normal braking they are then illegal

why's that??

makes no difference really....

Surely thats a hard one to police? whats hard braking and whats not?

Stav

exactly.

no way it can be proved that u weren't hard braking. unless they were behind u in a traffic jam.

i know mike morse had these type so they pulsed whenever he touched the brake and never had a problem with them...

From the research I did before installing mine, if they flashed at the slightest brake then it would be classed as a distraction.

Best thing to do then Rob, is do the research yourself before installing them.

i've looked into it in the past but didnt find anything that held substance

asked a local bobby who lives near me and he says he doesn't see the problem..

Guess you could put an accelerometer in. I say that as if everyone has one in their shed.....

Go for it then mate, looks pretty decent. Can you do a walkthrough when you install it so everyone can see how easy it is

I had some of those bulbs for a while and they only pulsed under hard-ish braking........so simply rolling along in a traffic jam wouldn't make them flash.

I'm unaware of the legality around these though, but will say again, if I was following a car in a traffic jam that had brake lights flashing at me all the time, it would seriously annoy me - but that's the only downside I can see.......

ok, basically, the problem with the ball bearing type pulse brake lights like i used to have, IMO, is that they occasionally get jammed and don't pulse at all and/or often just one side pulses (dependent on cornering, road surface incline etc). the other thing is that i didn't find the brake illumination to be much brighter than the sidelights themselves.

so these sequencer units look pretty smart and especially if connected to the fogs, again IMO.

with regards to legality, i'm not too sure, but know pulsing lights themselves are legal.

lee has suggested that lights that pulse on any brake movement are not legal, but that is a grey area IMO and hard to police correctly. I had a word with a chap i know in the police, and he admitted he wasn't 100 % sure but said the chances of getting pulled for it are almost non existant, and even then it'd just be a kind word asking them to be changed.

@lee, of course mate, i'll post a few pics, as i'm sure stav will also (as i'm following the advice he gives me coz otherwise i'll mess it up, lol).

we should have everything by the end of this week/beginning of next so watch this space.

bump! any news on this?

LOL funny you should ask,

I've just fitted the single circuit unit on my fogs as they have the fog/brake conversion. and they look great.

Gonna do a bit more modding tomorrow to change the wiring and top light to led so i'll get some video and pics then.

Stav