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aaronabbott
does anybodys lowering springs not sit correctly in there strut cups,mine dont properly,took it to a local mechanic who said that cos there lowering springs they could be shorter in material and not wound as tight thats why there not sitting right
Rob's Lexx
what make are they??

mine have no problems in the cup
mole
Fitted mine a couple of weeks ago and they are sittin fine,no problems so far but will have a look 2night just 2 check and get back 2 you wink.gif
aaronabbott
here they are,i bought them about 9 months ago




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lexus-IS200-40mm-low...1QQcmdZViewItem

or 290218875025
PCIronmike
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Mar 31 2008, 04:38 PM) *
does anybodys lowering springs not sit correctly in there strut cups,mine dont properly,took it to a local mechanic who said that cos there lowering springs they could be shorter in material and not wound as tight thats why there not sitting right

Aaron , I've never lowered a Lexus but I have done many other cars including torsion bar types , with lowering springs the spring should still fit correctly in the cup on the strut and there should be a shape in the cup at both ends for the spring end and needs to be turned into the cups before you release the torsion from the spring , sometimes there is no torsion because the spring is shorter and you only need the spring compressors to remove the old springs , but as long as you have bought direct replacement lowering springs for the model car you have they should fit fine.
Regards
Paul.
TigerFish
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.
aaronabbott
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM) *
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.



at the bottom of the cup the spring is about half inch away from the end but the mechanic said they look like its sitting at the top in the rubber bit right,i remember when fitting them there was a twist in all the actual struts espically the rears
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Mar 31 2008, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM) *
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.



at the bottom of the cup the spring is about half inch away from the end but the mechanic said they look like its sitting at the top in the rubber bit right,i remember when fitting them there was a twist in all the actual struts espically the rears


Is it the case that the bottom coil is not sitting against the tapered damper ledge?
TigerFish
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Mar 31 2008, 06:35 PM) *
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Mar 31 2008, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM) *
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.



at the bottom of the cup the spring is about half inch away from the end but the mechanic said they look like its sitting at the top in the rubber bit right,i remember when fitting them there was a twist in all the actual struts espically the rears


Is it the case that the bottom coil is not sitting against the tapered damper ledge?


That makes more sense than the way I said it laugh.gif
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 05:36 PM) *
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Mar 31 2008, 06:35 PM) *
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Mar 31 2008, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM) *
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.



at the bottom of the cup the spring is about half inch away from the end but the mechanic said they look like its sitting at the top in the rubber bit right,i remember when fitting them there was a twist in all the actual struts espically the rears


Is it the case that the bottom coil is not sitting against the tapered damper ledge?


That makes more sense than the way I said it laugh.gif


Shared terminology mate... Text is so hard to transport into an image... I think all that needs doing here is the spring compressing and the damper twisted so the ledge is aligned with the lower helix.
aaronabbott
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Mar 31 2008, 07:11 PM) *
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 05:36 PM) *
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Mar 31 2008, 06:35 PM) *
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Mar 31 2008, 03:59 PM) *
QUOTE(TigerFish @ Mar 31 2008, 04:54 PM) *
In what way are they not sitting properly? i.e. could it be that that they haven't been positioned correctly in the first place. On my GS, the coil is just open ended at one end a ground flat at the other end. So the spring is rotated to sit the open end in the cup properly and the flat end always sits flat on the top mount, if all that makes sense?? Maybe the IS setup is similar.



at the bottom of the cup the spring is about half inch away from the end but the mechanic said they look like its sitting at the top in the rubber bit right,i remember when fitting them there was a twist in all the actual struts espically the rears


Is it the case that the bottom coil is not sitting against the tapered damper ledge?


That makes more sense than the way I said it laugh.gif


Shared terminology mate... Text is so hard to transport into an image... I think all that needs doing here is the spring compressing and the damper twisted so the ledge is aligned with the lower helix.



calm down boys,thats the problem.ive tried to get some spring clamps onto it myself but there to big to get them on while the strut is still on the car.i might have to take them all off again and go from there
PCIronmike
If you dont want to take the struts off , halford do a crappy DIY lowering kit , its basically two miniature spring compressors that stay on the car , Sh**e I know but it may save you the job of removal , check em out anyway , no harm in looking .
Hope this helps out .
Regards
Paul. msn-wink.gif
aaronabbott
QUOTE(PCIronmike @ Mar 31 2008, 09:38 PM) *
If you dont want to take the struts off , halford do a crappy DIY lowering kit , its basically two miniature spring compressors that stay on the car , Sh**e I know but it may save you the job of removal , check em out anyway , no harm in looking .
Hope this helps out .
Regards
Paul. msn-wink.gif



cheers paul i did see something like that on ebay ill pick some up tomorrow

sparkystav
Two large cable ties can compress them temporarily while you twist them

Not the right way but a quick way smile.gif

Stav
aaronabbott
QUOTE(sparkystav @ Mar 31 2008, 10:02 PM) *
Two large cable ties can compress them temporarily while you twist them

Not the right way but a quick way smile.gif

Stav



cheers stav thats one to try first
MAT_8N
QUOTE(PCIronmike @ Mar 31 2008, 09:38 PM) *
If you dont want to take the struts off , halford do a crappy DIY lowering kit , its basically two miniature spring compressors that stay on the car , Sh**e I know but it may save you the job of removal , check em out anyway , no harm in looking .
Hope this helps out .
Regards
Paul. msn-wink.gif


has anyone used these?
do they work or are they a bad idea?
i'm finding it hard to get some lowering springs for my ser 3 LS 400 and wondered if these would do the job?

i could proberbly get some clamps from work which would do the job!!
save me a fortune too!

would it be safe?

Matt
TigerFish
QUOTE(MAT_8N @ Mar 31 2008, 10:28 PM) *
QUOTE(PCIronmike @ Mar 31 2008, 09:38 PM) *
If you dont want to take the struts off , halford do a crappy DIY lowering kit , its basically two miniature spring compressors that stay on the car , Sh**e I know but it may save you the job of removal , check em out anyway , no harm in looking .
Hope this helps out .
Regards
Paul. msn-wink.gif


has anyone used these?
do they work or are they a bad idea?
i'm finding it hard to get some lowering springs for my ser 3 LS 400 and wondered if these would do the job?

i could proberbly get some clamps from work which would do the job!!
save me a fortune too!

would it be safe?

Matt


Not something I would do as an alternative to proper springs myself. Normally lowering springs are also stiffened/uprated to avoid bottoming out etc. This would obviously not be the case if you effectively remove one or two turns of the coil by clamping them together.
aaronabbott
right almost done both rear and front passenger sides springs are all sitting correctly,the drivers side spring will not sit properly.ive even tried removing the whole strut assembly only for it to be slightly twisted at the bottom and when twisted back the spring twists back so it dont sit right,getting slightly annoyed now can anyone help

thanks

azz
aaronabbott
has anybody got any ideas on this before i take the strut out and apart again later,im gonna just make sure the arroes at the top are pointing the correct way
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Apr 2 2008, 06:04 AM) *
has anybody got any ideas on this before i take the strut out and apart again later,im gonna just make sure the arroes at the top are pointing the correct way


Could you post an image of the offender.
aaronabbott
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 2 2008, 03:41 PM) *
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Apr 2 2008, 06:04 AM) *
has anybody got any ideas on this before i take the strut out and apart again later,im gonna just make sure the arroes at the top are pointing the correct way


Could you post an image of the offender.



i will do tomorrow when i get chance to get it off again weather wasnt as good today.the arrows on the top of the strut which way do they face,towards the engine or facing the front of the car
aaronabbott
all sorted now and happy
DJ Wozza
Yaaaaaay !! w00t.gif
sparkystav
Good good. Glad you got it sorted,

Any idea what the problem was?

Stav
aaronabbott
QUOTE(sparkystav @ Apr 3 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Good good. Glad you got it sorted,

Any idea what the problem was?

Stav



yeah when i was loosening the clamps off the springs the top cup had twisted just under a quarter of a turn so when refitting the bottom of the strut where the bolt goes through was twisted while the top was correct ,so had to take apart yet again and get that top cup in place and not to move before refitting so it was all in line got there eventually though..........................................................................
................................................................................
....................................................i want my coilovers
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
Good news... Well done.
aaronabbott
thanks,the amount of times ive taken it out and apart i could do it in my sleep now
wheels-inmotion.co.uk
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Apr 3 2008, 07:20 PM) *
thanks,the amount of times ive taken it out and apart i could do it in my sleep now


I'm looking for staff whistling.gif
aaronabbott
QUOTE(wheels-inmotion.co.uk @ Apr 4 2008, 06:19 PM) *
QUOTE(aaronabbott @ Apr 3 2008, 07:20 PM) *
thanks,the amount of times ive taken it out and apart i could do it in my sleep now


I'm looking for staff whistling.gif



you've got my number......lol
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