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gti1
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Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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new boy
QUOTE(gti1 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:25 PM) *
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Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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I guess from the photo you do not have a problem in 6th gear at 70 mph and above. I have found that 6th can be used providing the road is reasonably free from inclines. Your mpg has set a new challenge for me, are you using bog standard diesel. Merv
nate73


Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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I've done that experiment too. I managed 41mpg. My se-l has done 24k (I got it at 20k) Many people on here have experienced a drop in mpg as the car gets older. Be interesting to see if you maintain high 40's.

All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.

Hope there's no coppers reading your post!!! laugh.gif

dgman
QUOTE(gti1 @ Apr 2 2008, 11:25 PM) *
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Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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well done,now you just need the dps4 isn't that right nate73.
gti1
QUOTE(new boy @ Apr 3 2008, 12:18 AM) *
QUOTE(gti1 @ Apr 2 2008, 10:25 PM) *
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Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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I guess from the photo you do not have a problem in 6th gear at 70 mph and above. I have found that 6th can be used providing the road is reasonably free from inclines. Your mpg has set a new challenge for me, are you using bog standard diesel. Merv



I will admit that 70 is not the ideal spped for 6th gear but on the way back I travelled at 74mph which felt better and got me the 49.5 mpg figure compared to the 48.4 on the way down. So it would seem that 1700-1800 rpm seems to be the sweet spot for me. The fuel I use is of the standard Shell variety. I may look at an additive at some stage just to see what it does on the same trop again.
Scarlet Pimpernell
Some of you may me recall my post 2 years ago, where I posted something identical....photo's and all (though the car was stationary and in a layby when I took them).


gti1 - I am genuinely happy for you...I always drive like you have on this occasion - always within the speed limit and in those conditions - and I get 10mpg less... cry.gif

AND I just refuse to put anything like DPS4 in. The net has some forums on there where people have mixed views on it. Knowing my luck it'll sieze the injectors...

It's never been about squeazing every MPG out. It's about having a car that does not need a shed load of warranty visits to keep it running the way it should be with loads of ECU tweaks, new pipes and all... I think people have missed the point...

Let's not cover old ground. My Blood pressure will go up... unsure.gif over and out
nate73
QUOTE(dgman @ Apr 3 2008, 07:14 AM) *
QUOTE(gti1 @ Apr 2 2008, 11:25 PM) *
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Well I now have owned my IS220d SE-L MM S/r for just under two weeks. I must say I am over the moon with it in every respect. I have as off this evening clocked up just over a thousand miles thus far. It was todays trip that made me write this post.

For months now I have like many others taken on board what others have said about the IS220d. I must say that the MPG figures that most people where quoting concerned me bought never changed my decision to buy the car.

Today I had a business trip which took me to Cardiff for a couple of calls. I thought I would use this chance to see what all the fuss was about regarding MPG figures quoted on this site. Most people have stated that a simple change in driving habits should yield good results.

What I did what simply stick to the speed limits which was a big adjustment for me. I drove at a steady 74 mph from Sunbury all the way to Cardiff mostly using the cruise control and relaxed and enjoyed some music on my MM. Once in Cardiff I had four companies to see in and around the CBD. I did the same on the way back but was caught in 20min off standing traffic on the M4 just before the M25. I soon got home.

What I say next is just my two pence worth on the MPG issue. I did not buy this car with the intention to suck every MPG out off the fuel that i put in it nor did I buy it to race around England either. Today however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house. I took this picture to show all the people who knock the IS220D what can be done if one is willing to drive within the speed limits and resist the tempataion to floor it all the time. Please take note off the fuel level, rev counter, speed and the TANK MPG AVERAGE figure for my trip. I was AMAZED and very pleased.

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well done,now you just need the dps4 isn't that right nate73.



Works for me!!!
Matus
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:32 AM) *
All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.


I don't think so.
dgman
QUOTE(Matus @ Apr 3 2008, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:32 AM) *
All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.


I don't think so.

how was the ski trip,also you were going to give us your return journey mpg figures.
spikes
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however all I did was obay the law and take a more relaxed drive and actully felt better for it at the end off the day.

I have attached a photo I took with my Phone just before I got off the M25 5 miles from my house.


"mmm a clever hands free kit you have with your lex " msn-wink.gif
Northern Boys Luv Gravy
I must admit with rising fuel costs I was looking at diesels but then decided to do an experiment on my everyday commute. I reset my average fuel and set off through Newcastle, down the A19, into Hartlepool and back, driving pretty normally, but setting the cruise control to 75mph on the dual carriageway. When I got home the reading was 38.2mpg average.
The next day I did the same route with our Audi A3 170bhp diesel and returned 42mpg. Score one for the diesel I thought. Then I did the maths:

Petrol @ 1.04p per liter equates to a cost per mile in the Lexus of 12.4p.

Diesel @ 1.14p per litre equates to a cost per mile in the Audi of 12.4p

And the Lexus is a far more relaxing drive with the auto transmission.

I read recently that there is pressure on the shipping companies to switch from marine fuel to diesel fuel for environmental reasons which will increase the pressure on refineries already struggling to meet demand for diesel. It was stated that diesel could end up costing 50% more. For me to swop to diesel does not make financial sense at the moment.
Parthiban
You're absolutely right mate, the difference in mpg between diesels and petrols is getting much closer now due to all the direct injection technology, so the *p price difference between petrol and diesel more than balances it out.

Plus it doesn't sound like you're driving a truck, and you're not contributing to respiratory diseases and other nasty stuff, so all in all you're doing your bit for the environment whistling.gif
dgman
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 09:07 AM) *
I must admit with rising fuel costs I was looking at diesels but then decided to do an experiment on my everyday commute. I reset my average fuel and set off through Newcastle, down the A19, into Hartlepool and back, driving pretty normally, but setting the cruise control to 75mph on the dual carriageway. When I got home the reading was 38.2mpg average.
The next day I did the same route with our Audi A3 170bhp diesel and returned 42mpg. Score one for the diesel I thought. Then I did the maths:

Petrol @ 1.04p per liter equates to a cost per mile in the Lexus of 12.4p.

Diesel @ 1.14p per litre equates to a cost per mile in the Audi of 12.4p

And the Lexus is a far more relaxing drive with the auto transmission.

I read recently that there is pressure on the shipping companies to switch from marine fuel to diesel fuel for environmental reasons which will increase the pressure on refineries already struggling to meet demand for diesel. It was stated that diesel could end up costing 50% more. For me to swop to diesel does not make financial sense at the moment.

it must be an urban myth that audi's do 50mpg no matter how you drive them.for me its a different result,most posts that i have seen on here are saying 28 combined for the250 whilst my 220 is 40 combined.i do 18k a yearand i know that in my situation i would be £800 worse off per year with a petrol.if the numbers worked for me i would have petrol.
nate73
QUOTE(Matus @ Apr 3 2008, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:32 AM) *
All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.


I don't think so.


Is this your first car Matus?????
Northern Boys Luv Gravy
QUOTE(dgman @ Apr 4 2008, 10:24 AM) *
it must be an urban myth that audi's do 50mpg no matter how you drive them.for me its a different result,most posts that i have seen on here are saying 28 combined for the250 whilst my 220 is 40 combined.i do 18k a yearand i know that in my situation i would be £800 worse off per year with a petrol.if the numbers worked for me i would have petrol.


No, you're absoutely right, in everyday use around town and such I get 29.6mpg and our Audi gets 38mpg (I have been told that it will get better as it loosens up towards 10k so I would expect this to creep up to 43ish mpg. This gives a figure of 16p per mile for the petrol and 12p per mile for the diesel - as you say £800 a year better off over 20k miles. But I have to look at the cost to change and looking at it rationaly, with a bit of care in my driving style, I can still drive the car I want (petrol auto) with only a modest financial penalty. I think any savings to be made for me would be lost in the trade in price and new price difference.

I know people say their Audis do 50mpg but the best VW/Audi car I had for mileage had the 1.9Tdi 115bhp engine and it averaged at 48 mpg mostly motorway so I would doubt a 140 or 170 bhp would better that.
MeOfLeeds
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 10:09 AM) *
I know people say their Audis do 50mpg but the best VW/Audi car I had for mileage had the 1.9Tdi 115bhp engine and it averaged at 48 mpg mostly motorway so I would doubt a 140 or 170 bhp would better that.

You're going to start you know who off in a minute... cry.gif
Northern Boys Luv Gravy
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QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 10:09 AM) *
I know people say their Audis do 50mpg but the best VW/Audi car I had for mileage had the 1.9Tdi 115bhp engine and it averaged at 48 mpg mostly motorway so I would doubt a 140 or 170 bhp would better that.

You're going to start you know who off in a minute... cry.gif


Shhh - you're right. Keep your head down, say nothing and let's hope this drops off the front page asap. whistling.gif
simon k
he must be out for the day
Steve ( West Mids )
Well my petrol is returning 34.4 mpg at the moment, what have I done to achieve this little bit extra? Turned off the auto lights, don't drive up the backside of the car in front so I get the opportunity to foot off the accelerator before foot on the brake. Also another 1 to mpg can be achieved, when weather permits, by turning off climate when required temperature is reached.
Mincey
QUOTE(Steve ( West Mids ) @ Apr 4 2008, 04:59 PM) *
Well my petrol is returning 34.4 mpg at the moment, what have I done to achieve this little bit extra? Turned off the auto lights, don't drive up the backside of the car in front so I get the opportunity to foot off the accelerator before foot on the brake. Also another 1 to mpg can be achieved, when weather permits, by turning off climate when required temperature is reached.


I got up to 48mpg avg on the way back to Peterborough from Thetford this afternoon. No a/c, only one (necessary) heavy use of right foot, but it went down to, and stayed at, 44.2 after the Thorney bypass. It might have been more without the queue at the roadworks in Thetford Forest. That makes up for my hooligan-like behaviour coming back from Dewsbury on Wednesday. Does anyone here have a metallic red 56 registered IS250 and was on the A1 southbound around Newark in close proximity to a Golf TDi that afternoon??
gti1
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 12:41 PM) *
QUOTE(MeOfLeeds @ Apr 4 2008, 12:03 PM) *
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 10:09 AM) *
I know people say their Audis do 50mpg but the best VW/Audi car I had for mileage had the 1.9Tdi 115bhp engine and it averaged at 48 mpg mostly motorway so I would doubt a 140 or 170 bhp would better that.

You're going to start you know who off in a minute... cry.gif


Shhh - you're right. Keep your head down, say nothing and let's hope this drops off the front page asap. whistling.gif



LOL .... Ah you guys crack me up hehe.gif hehe.gif
SINGH182
QUOTE(Steve ( West Mids ) @ Apr 4 2008, 04:59 PM) *
Well my petrol is returning 34.4 mpg at the moment, what have I done to achieve this little bit extra? Turned off the auto lights, don't drive up the backside of the car in front so I get the opportunity to foot off the accelerator before foot on the brake. Also another 1 to mpg can be achieved, when weather permits, by turning off climate when required temperature is reached.


-How would turning the auto lights off help in mpg?
as my lights are allways on "auto".

Matus
QUOTE(dgman @ Apr 3 2008, 07:32 PM) *
QUOTE(Matus @ Apr 3 2008, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:32 AM) *
All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.


I don't think so.

how was the ski trip,also you were going to give us your return journey mpg figures.


I am returning tommorrow.

The weather was bad, but the resort is great.
Matus
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 4 2008, 10:08 AM) *
QUOTE(Matus @ Apr 3 2008, 02:10 PM) *
QUOTE(nate73 @ Apr 3 2008, 06:32 AM) *
All comes back to the point that you don't need to drive like that in the alternatives to get the same indicated mpg figures tho.


I don't think so.


Is this your first car Matus?????


no
Steve ( West Mids )
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-How would turning the auto lights off help in mpg?
as my lights are allways on "auto".


Because they don't go on when they don't need to be wink.gif Autolioghts sensitivity is not what it should be, on my IS200 I had the setting changed by the dealership so they turned off at a more reasonable light level, only problem was it was a dealer setting and everytime the battery was disconnected when it went in the workshop / paintshop it got set back to factory setting, so I gave up.
audi al
I had an 04 Audi A4 1.9tdi multitronic from new to 45k miles. Audi claim the same mpg for the multitronic as the manual A4 that is over 50mpg driven carefully, the best I ever managed was 42mpg and most of the time 36-38 was the norm.
With my IS250auto the best I have managed is 38mpg and my daily average is 32mpg, this is obviously over identical journeys as I did in my Audi.With the difference in petrol/deisel prices now I'm sure my costs are not a lot different to what they would have been had I kept the Audi.

Its nice with the Lexus pulling away from rest without the suicidal time delay experienced with the multitronic and without the embarassing thick smokescreen I would constantly see in my rear view mirror.
bpllurker
OK I've been lurking around here for too long now!!
Just had mine back to Lexus Bolton to do something anout the 38 mpg average I was getting. Drove the car to Preston (18 miles each way, some stop/start but mostly 50mph 5th gear) and guess what..... average 52.5 mpg. I don't know what they did but I'm not complaining.
stuie
Dont forget however the diesel road tax is 170 quid a year the petrol is 400 quid a year factor that 230 quid into your calcs too 20 quid extra a month is a fair few miles in either car
Scarlet Pimpernell
50+ at 50mph...is that all? Whilst mine can't seem to get that now, it did in the past...

Secondly - £20 a month extra - it's not about the money - the point is why the cars keep having to go in for new bits, tweaks, remapping. Smacks of a design flaw. But will anyone admit it? No...

Why? 'cos it's a Lexus and they are perfect...

It's all getting too boring wacko.gif sleepy.gif
MeOfLeeds
QUOTE(gti1 @ Apr 4 2008, 05:31 PM) *
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 12:41 PM) *
QUOTE(MeOfLeeds @ Apr 4 2008, 12:03 PM) *
QUOTE(Northern Boys Luv Gravy @ Apr 4 2008, 10:09 AM) *
I know people say their Audis do 50mpg but the best VW/Audi car I had for mileage had the 1.9Tdi 115bhp engine and it averaged at 48 mpg mostly motorway so I would doubt a 140 or 170 bhp would better that.

You're going to start you know who off in a minute... cry.gif


Shhh - you're right. Keep your head down, say nothing and let's hope this drops off the front page asap. whistling.gif


LOL .... Ah you guys crack me up hehe.gif hehe.gif

"It's all getting too boring..."

Oh sh*t, who woke him up...
dgman
QUOTE(simon k @ Apr 4 2008, 12:55 PM) *
he must be out for the day

he's back now.
Scarlet Pimpernell
You know who - that's the nicest anyones been about me in years

laugh.gif

BTW - my A4 test drive keeps getting put back (hopefully do both 2.0TDi and 3.0TDi Quattro). Apparently (!) they have had to re-prioritise private customer test drives "due to unprecedented demand" by Corporate clients
dgman
QUOTE(Jamboo @ Apr 7 2008, 01:31 PM) *
You know who - that's the nicest anyones been about me in years

laugh.gif

BTW - my A4 test drive keeps getting put back (hopefully do both 2.0TDi and 3.0TDi Quattro). Apparently (!) they have had to re-prioritise private customer test drives "due to unprecedented demand" by Corporate clients

not very reassuring that they have a customer pecking order is it.and if its not really about the fuel economy as you have said why don't you buy the 250 auto.firstly you will get agood discount which, you won't on the audi.secondly the audi being a new model will suffer gremlins.something to think about.
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