Now im thinking of getting 42ich lcd tv but not sure all the problems with lcd have been sorted (dead pixels)
What you know or think
thanks for any help
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Im getting new tv, ive had 42inch plasma for some yrs now with no problems at all
Now im thinking of getting 42ich lcd tv but not sure all the problems with lcd have been sorted (dead pixels)
What you know or think thanks for any help
Now im thinking of getting 42ich lcd tv but not sure all the problems with lcd have been sorted (dead pixels)
What you know or think
thanks for any help
ive had an LCD TV for 5 years now, and had no issues with it whatso ever, its made by Thompson, a german brand
personally I don't think you can beat a plasma for the bright rich and vivid colours- no LCD tv I've looked at ever seems to look as deep and the contrast just doesn't seem to be there.
I'd stick with plasma - but that's just me.
Plus the heat they give out saves you turning the fire on in winter ;0))
I'd stick with plasma - but that's just me.
Plus the heat they give out saves you turning the fire on in winter ;0))
LCD is the future... 
I have a sony 46" and it's fab
I have a sony 46" and it's fab
I've got 2 lcd tvs and never had a problem with any of them, good clean picture on both so quite happy with lcd
Plus is it true that you have to get plasma's re-gassed after a few years and that playing playstations etc, burn images on the screens of the plasma models?
Plus is it true that you have to get plasma's re-gassed after a few years and that playing playstations etc, burn images on the screens of the plasma models?
most the myths about plasma TVs are untrue - especially with newer technology and the lifetime of a plasma typically matches that of an LCD. Without any regassing
my son has a 42 plasma in his bedroom and is never off his playstation plus regularly forgets to switch it off- no problem with screen burn yet -
my son has a 42 plasma in his bedroom and is never off his playstation plus regularly forgets to switch it off- no problem with screen burn yet -
do a search for LCD vs plasma on google and look at the cnet one - good table showing strenght weakness of both
[quote name='aztecbandit1' post='541963' date='May 10 2008, 09:18 PM']I've got 2 lcd tvs and never had a problem with any of them, good clean picture on both so quite happy with lcd
Plus is it true that you have to get plasma's re-gassed after a few years and that playing playstations etc, burn images on the screens of the plasma models?[/quote]
I do have 2 small lcd tv,s but i read somewhere that large screen lcd tv,s will not match large screen plasma, but that was about a year ago now.
And as ive said, ive had plasma for some yrs now with no problems, no re-gas or burn marks from the kids games, was just asking if large screen lcd tv,s have moved on, been looking in the shops and some lcd tv's look very good pic, over the plasma next to it, but in the next shop, the plasma looked lots better than the lcd
Plus is it true that you have to get plasma's re-gassed after a few years and that playing playstations etc, burn images on the screens of the plasma models?
[/quote]I do have 2 small lcd tv,s but i read somewhere that large screen lcd tv,s will not match large screen plasma, but that was about a year ago now.
And as ive said, ive had plasma for some yrs now with no problems, no re-gas or burn marks from the kids games, was just asking if large screen lcd tv,s have moved on, been looking in the shops and some lcd tv's look very good pic, over the plasma next to it, but in the next shop, the plasma looked lots better than the lcd
This is one of those arguments that could gone on. They are getting pretty much the same now but vary so much between manufacturer. The manufacturing techniques have changed so much.
Take your own small selections of DVD with you to the shop and you will see the difference. Plasma still take more power and are prone to screen burn but they have more protection methods built in now. A lot of manufacturers claim they won't be making plasma in five years, but they said the same five years previously.
I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester. I used to work for them many moons ago. Just before it Marconi, the defence side of things when the French government split it.
Take your own small selections of DVD with you to the shop and you will see the difference. Plasma still take more power and are prone to screen burn but they have more protection methods built in now. A lot of manufacturers claim they won't be making plasma in five years, but they said the same five years previously.
I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester. I used to work for them many moons ago. Just before it Marconi, the defence side of things when the French government split it.
Geoff with your knowledge mate couldnt you just make Gord a super duper plasmalcd all in one unit with a stella dispenser on the side?? 
i have a 32" LCD and a 42" PLASMA.
Both made by LG.
Happy with both but the LCD does get the bedroom hot!
I thinl on fast moving things like sports and for deep blacks with fast colour response then its still plasma. But as geoffers said, its purely down to what looks best to you. Be carefull in the shop especially if its dixons as they hook some of there stuff up terrible and wont get a true comparisson.
Both made by LG.
Happy with both but the LCD does get the bedroom hot!
I thinl on fast moving things like sports and for deep blacks with fast colour response then its still plasma. But as geoffers said, its purely down to what looks best to you. Be carefull in the shop especially if its dixons as they hook some of there stuff up terrible and wont get a true comparisson.
I've got a 42" plasma too. I caught a glimpse of a news article today...not sure if it was in yesterdays paper or MSN today....about LCD's not being the recommended buy? Sorry I didn't read it so not sure, but think it was something to do with Plasma being better for HD???
Personally I think plama screens have the edge on picture quality, deeper blacks and more vivid colours, especially on the bigger sizes. The plasma screens have glass fronts, whereas if an LCD screen is scratched it's there for the life of the set.
Plasma screens are still quite expenisve to manufacture, and probably why manufacturers such as Sony, Sharp, & Toshiba have stopped making them and aim to spend more money on R&D to sort out the LCD probs...viewing angle, contrast, colour definition etc.
Personally I think plama screens have the edge on picture quality, deeper blacks and more vivid colours, especially on the bigger sizes. The plasma screens have glass fronts, whereas if an LCD screen is scratched it's there for the life of the set.
Plasma screens are still quite expenisve to manufacture, and probably why manufacturers such as Sony, Sharp, & Toshiba have stopped making them and aim to spend more money on R&D to sort out the LCD probs...viewing angle, contrast, colour definition etc.
[quote name='Geoffers' post='541993' date='May 10 2008, 09:37 PM']This is one of those arguments that could gone on. They are getting pretty much the same now but vary so much between manufacturer. The manufacturing techniques have changed so much.
Take your own small selections of DVD with you to the shop and you will see the difference. Plasma still take more power and are prone to screen burn but they have more protection methods built in now. A lot of manufacturers claim they won't be making plasma in five years, but they said the same five years previously.
I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester. I used to work for them many moons ago. Just before it Marconi, the defence side of things when the French government split it.[/quote]
I can't see me going Thompson to, and that reminds me, i must change my bank or is it spanish Abbey that is
Take your own small selections of DVD with you to the shop and you will see the difference. Plasma still take more power and are prone to screen burn but they have more protection methods built in now. A lot of manufacturers claim they won't be making plasma in five years, but they said the same five years previously.
I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester. I used to work for them many moons ago. Just before it Marconi, the defence side of things when the French government split it.[/quote]
I can't see me going Thompson to, and that reminds me, i must change my bank
or is it spanish Abbey that is
[quote name='Geoffers' post='541993' date='May 10 2008, 09:37 PM']I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester.[/quote]
i can just see Mat`s tv flying through the window now
i can just see Mat`s tv flying through the window now
French company started by a Manc and a scouser working for them. Nothing down for them really........
I recently bought a new telly - went for a Sony LCD in the end after much research.
I'd recommend reading up on [url="http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/"]HDTVTest[/url] (very thorough independent review site)
and [url="http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.php"]AVForums[/url]
HTH
I'd recommend reading up on [url="http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/"]HDTVTest[/url] (very thorough independent review site)
and [url="http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.php"]AVForums[/url]
HTH
As a rule of thumb..
Up to a 37" go for LCD, anything over, go for plasma..
Screen burn is possible on a plasma, but it would take a long time.
There will never need to be a regas on a plasma as it is a sealed unit.
Contrast on a plasma is much higher (dark to light) and as such, black is a lot better.
LCD usually has a finer dot pitch, so the picture can be sharper on some sets.
lifetime on both types are around the same.. and is also around the same for an old CRT
Dead pixels are very possible on LCD, and up to about 7 would not be covered under warranty (it may even come with them)
Dead pixels on plasma are also possible but much rarer..
John
Up to a 37" go for LCD, anything over, go for plasma..
Screen burn is possible on a plasma, but it would take a long time.
There will never need to be a regas on a plasma as it is a sealed unit.
Contrast on a plasma is much higher (dark to light) and as such, black is a lot better.
LCD usually has a finer dot pitch, so the picture can be sharper on some sets.
lifetime on both types are around the same.. and is also around the same for an old CRT
Dead pixels are very possible on LCD, and up to about 7 would not be covered under warranty (it may even come with them)
Dead pixels on plasma are also possible but much rarer..
John
[quote name='Bazza' post='542035' date='May 10 2008, 10:08 PM'][quote name='Geoffers' post='541993' date='May 10 2008, 09:37 PM']I can't see you going for Thompson Gord as its French, not German but I'm sure they don't build their tellies like their cars!! Sorry Mat, they are only CEO in Gemany, although the guy who founded it was born in Manchester.[/quote]
i can just see Mat`s tv flying through the window now
[/quote]
dam right!!
suppose thats an advantage of going back to the fatherland.......ill be able to buy a new LCD(tax free)...thats not French!!
i can just see Mat`s tv flying through the window now
[/quote]
dam right!!
suppose thats an advantage of going back to the fatherland.......ill be able to buy a new LCD(tax free)...thats not French!!
Plasma screens cannot and never have been regassed. It is a myth. Google it and see what the answers are.
I still think plasma has the edge in terms of picture quality, and the Pioneers are untouchable. As above, regassing plasmas is a load of rubbish and has NEVER been true! Screen burn is still an issue though, we have one TV in the house that is pretty much always on one channel, and the logo can be faintly seen all the time now - not sure if it will go away but that is a downside if you watch the same channel a lot.
In terms of LCD there are only two that get close to the picture of plasma - and these are the latest top of the line ones from Sony and Samsung. These have the latest LCD panels in them that have a special coating on the surface on the screen - you can tell the difference as they have a shiny surface similar to plasma, instead of the normal matt finish LCD screens have.
For me, the only choices are the ones above, Pioneer for plasma, Sony or Samsung for LCD (if price is not a big issue), but you really have to see them with your own eyes as different people do like different things from the picture they see
In terms of LCD there are only two that get close to the picture of plasma - and these are the latest top of the line ones from Sony and Samsung. These have the latest LCD panels in them that have a special coating on the surface on the screen - you can tell the difference as they have a shiny surface similar to plasma, instead of the normal matt finish LCD screens have.
For me, the only choices are the ones above, Pioneer for plasma, Sony or Samsung for LCD (if price is not a big issue), but you really have to see them with your own eyes as different people do like different things from the picture they see
LCD 4 me had mine 18month now 46" Sony & Fine up 2 press 
So plz dont jinx me
So plz dont jinx me
i,ve been lookng for ages for a telly but still dont know which one to go for
i think the lcd 1080p tellys have got the best pic at the mo so i think i,ll go for one of them
i think the lcd 1080p tellys have got the best pic at the mo so i think i,ll go for one of them
OLEDs will be out next year. Contrast and colours are fantastic. Contrast can be as high as 1,000,000:1
Sony should have had theirs out by now but a few manufacturing glitches to get rid of first. Their first OLED 42" only takes 45w.
Not sure long term though as OLED dims over time, but they claim to have gotten over that. Can't see how though.
Sony should have had theirs out by now but a few manufacturing glitches to get rid of first. Their first OLED 42" only takes 45w.
Not sure long term though as OLED dims over time, but they claim to have gotten over that. Can't see how though.
This [url="http://www.cramptonandmoore.co.uk/TH42PZ85-with-pedestal-stand-3-year-warranty-copy-i605968.html?gclid=CMuq68bcn5MCFQ5lQgodYUJGwQ"]Panasonic TH-42PZ85B Plasma £1098.99 + £35 UK Delivery[/url] (Full HD 24fps 3xHdmi) looks good with a [b]free 5 year Guarantee[/b].
I have seen it cheaper by [b]£100 [/b]but then they would want [b]£249 extra [/b]for a 5 year guarantee......
I have seen it cheaper by [b]£100 [/b]but then they would want [b]£249 extra [/b]for a 5 year guarantee......
Ive got a 50" LG Plasma (wedding prezy from the boys) and its been running a year now without a hitch.
Cant complain at all, hasnt missed a beat. I know LG is not as good as some makes but I have been impressed by the quality so far.
Cant complain at all, hasnt missed a beat. I know LG is not as good as some makes but I have been impressed by the quality so far.
[quote name='P4UL T' post='542606' date='May 12 2008, 11:48 AM']Ive got a 50" LG Plasma (wedding prezy from the boys) and its been running a year now without a hitch.
Cant complain at all, hasnt missed a beat. I know LG is not as good as some makes but I have been impressed by the quality so far.[/quote]
AFAIK "LG" use the same screen as PHILIPS
Cant complain at all, hasnt missed a beat. I know LG is not as good as some makes but I have been impressed by the quality so far.[/quote]
AFAIK "LG" use the same screen as PHILIPS
[quote name='DJ Wozza' post='542605' date='May 12 2008, 11:43 AM']This [url="http://www.cramptonandmoore.co.uk/TH42PZ85-with-pedestal-stand-3-year-warranty-copy-i605968.html?gclid=CMuq68bcn5MCFQ5lQgodYUJGwQ"]Panasonic TH-42PZ85B Plasma £1098.99 + £35 UK Delivery[/url] (Full HD 24fps 3xHdmi) looks good with a [b]free 5 year Guarantee[/b].
I have seen it cheaper by [b]£100 [/b]but then they would want [b]£249 extra [/b]for a 5 year guarantee......[/quote]
Yes been looking at this one mate, thats a good price with 5yrs warranty to
I have seen it cheaper by [b]£100 [/b]but then they would want [b]£249 extra [/b]for a 5 year guarantee......[/quote]
Yes been looking at this one mate, thats a good price with 5yrs warranty to
Glad to be of help
BTW if they send you an extra one by mistake tou know my address
BTW if they send you an extra one by mistake tou know my address
[quote name='DJ Wozza' post='542615' date='May 12 2008, 12:30 PM']Glad to be of help
BTW if they send you an extra one by mistake tou know my address[/quote]
By rights, that should go to me....
BTW if they send you an extra one by mistake tou know my address
[/quote]By rights, that should go to me....
I have an older panasonic 42" plasma.. not the "full" HD but still does 1080i and 720p
As I don't subscribe to SkyHD or Telewest HD, it makes no difference... although I have run some HD stuff from the laptop, and the quality is amazing..
John
As I don't subscribe to SkyHD or Telewest HD, it makes no difference... although I have run some HD stuff from the laptop, and the quality is amazing..
John
find the gadget show on you tube, they did a plasma vs lcd... plus suzzy is FIT!
[url="http://www.home-entertainment.toshiba.co.uk/consumer/products.nsf/pages/lcdplasma-regzaxf-40xf355d?opendocument"]Toshiba XF Series[/url]
i intend to get one of these. comes in either 40" or 46". smallest bezel in the world(2cm ish). to me thats the biggest selling point. i hate thick chunks around the screen!
[img]http://hdtvorg.co.uk/news/imgs/toshiba_xf355d.jpg[/img]
[url="http://www.home-entertainment.toshiba.co.uk/consumer/products.nsf/pages/lcdplasma-regzaxf-40xf355d?opendocument"]Toshiba XF Series[/url]
i intend to get one of these. comes in either 40" or 46". smallest bezel in the world(2cm ish). to me thats the biggest selling point. i hate thick chunks around the screen!
[img]http://hdtvorg.co.uk/news/imgs/toshiba_xf355d.jpg[/img]
[quote name='Geoffers' post='542590' date='May 12 2008, 10:34 AM']OLEDs will be out next year. Contrast and colours are fantastic. Contrast can be as high as 1,000,000:1
Sony should have had theirs out by now but a few manufacturing glitches to get rid of first. Their first OLED 42" only takes 45w.
Not sure long term though as OLED dims over time, but they claim to have gotten over that. Can't see how though.[/quote]
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but everything I've seen of it so far is very impressive..........
It's going to be a while though before it's affordable, the Sony 11" once that's on sale is $2500 in the US, so once it becomes available over here it'll be the same in pounds no doubt!
Sony should have had theirs out by now but a few manufacturing glitches to get rid of first. Their first OLED 42" only takes 45w.
Not sure long term though as OLED dims over time, but they claim to have gotten over that. Can't see how though.[/quote]
Haven't seen one in the flesh yet, but everything I've seen of it so far is very impressive..........
It's going to be a while though before it's affordable, the Sony 11" once that's on sale is $2500 in the US, so once it becomes available over here it'll be the same in pounds no doubt!
Up- date, went for the LCD in the end, Samsung 46inch LE46A656 coming this sat 
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