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Liamemz
Hi there guys, jus wondering is the stage 7 powertuning supercharger conversion on the TDi site the same as the TTE conversions everyone says is so rare???

Cheers ppl blush.gif
MacRS200
QUOTE(Liamemz @ May 28 2008, 04:35 PM) *
Hi there guys, jus wondering is the stage 7 powertuning supercharger conversion on the TDi site the same as the TTE conversions everyone says is so rare???

Cheers ppl blush.gif

Think WAS is a better word. AFAIK TDi can't get the TTE kit anymore but have done a conversion with a Rotrex 2 stage charger since supply ran out.
DJ Wozza
Dunno without a link/picture , or why don't you just call them and ask ?
MacRS200
QUOTE(DJ Wozza @ May 28 2008, 04:45 PM) *
Dunno without a link/picture , or why don't you just call them and ask ?

You could go on the TDi website and look or is that too much like hard work laugh.gif
Scorps01
What open up another page myself....no no no biggrin.gif
DJ Wozza
QUOTE(MacRS200 @ May 28 2008, 04:50 PM) *
You could go on the TDi website and look or is that too much like hard work laugh.gif


by the looks of it he was already there anyways whistling.gif

QUOTE(Liamemz @ May 28 2008, 04:35 PM) *
.............. the stage 7 powertuning supercharger conversion on the TDi site ....


Can someone lend him 20 pence & show him a link to the contacts page laugh.gif
dwgwyther
Looks like its a Rotex Charger;
http://www.tdi-plc.com/catalog/index.php?c...197_214_384_388
http://www.tdi-plc.com/catalog/product_inf...oducts_id=14654


Stage 7 upgrade: Supercharger

TTE Supercharger for £2200.00, fitted for £2,800~£3,100 depending on each individual vehicle.

Usually, the newer the vehicle the less time (and hence money) the kit takes to fit.


Adding 32% more power, and 27% more torque to the IS200, the bolt-on supercharger kit will transform the baby Lexus into the car it should have been. Please call for more details.

Stage 1 supercharger system; Boost upgrade (0.5 bar), exhaust manifold, Camcon, ecu upgrade, larger fuel injectors.

Stage 2 supercharger system; Boost upgrade (0.7 bar), de-cat pipe, 02 simulator, exhaust centre section, high capacity intercooler, forged pistons, forged connecting rods.

Not to shabby on the price

As good as a TTe Charger? (a Lot Cheaper)

Dazza
Rob
the description is for the TTE supercharger which to buy is about 4K, the rotrex has been fitted to 1 car and rumour has it, it has never run properly since....
sparkystav
you wont get the TTE kit for that price any more, i'm almost positive of that.

Andf the Rotrex kit will cost you ££££££'s more i'll almost gaurentee that.

Stav
Scorps01
QUOTE(Rob @ May 28 2008, 05:35 PM) *
the rotrex has been fitted to 1 car and rumour has it, it has never run properly since....



All hear say, Dave was at the WIM open day WITH HIS CAR and its running fine. biggrin.gif
Liamemz
So if this Rotrex s/c isn't a good option & the TTE is hard to come by, is there any more that have a good reputation???
I am new to the forum so sorry if im being a bit dumb blink.gif
Really looking forward to becomin the proud owner of a lex though cant wait, wanna get along to some meets eventually aswell
sparkystav
Its not the Rotrex isn't a good option its just that no ones built one and then provided BHp figures or anything to back it up.

Stav
Scorps01
Those that were at the TDI meet where Dave and his rotrex IS was there everyone that went in it said its more powerful than the TTE one it really shoved you back into your seat with quite a punch and the torque seemed never ending.

You need to speak to Dave himself about it.
sparkystav
I'm not denying it may be more powerful, but at what cost?

What sort of power would £3-£4K get you?

Stav
Scorps01
To those that want more power cost does'nt come into it, if you've got the money to get what you want what difference does it make.

Personally i think its too much, for that money you've quoted i'd go and buy a Cossie or similar for a w/end blaster i wouldn't spend it on a S/C for the Lex but i understand those that do.
Gord
QUOTE(Scorps01 @ May 28 2008, 06:41 PM) *
Those that were at the TDI meet where Dave and his rotrex IS was there everyone that went in it said its more powerful than the TTE one it really shoved you back into your seat with quite a punch and the torque seemed never ending.

You need to speak to Dave himself about it.

But one thing Pete, them that went to the Tdi meet with TTE supercharger fitted, drove there cars home biggrin.gif i dont think Dave did ? reliability it dont have, power yes biggrin.gif
DJ Wozza
I'm not getting into a power output arguement here re dyno figures and Dave's car.
However I have been in Dave's car several times and it is bloody quick. I wish mine was half as fast.

A source at TDi was recently quoted to a LOC member that the engine went wrong, but I couldn't see
any evidence of that at the meet.

The quoted stuff mentioning TTE from the TDi webstite has been out of date for about a year now,
since TTE's price went up to £4,000+ for the kit.

Why don't you just ring em for chris#####.
Then when you have a price and bhp figures you can come back and tell us all.
Send me a pm and I'll pop 20 pence in the post for you, plus on top of that I will
look on their website and give you the number too.
Bazza
QUOTE(Scorps01 @ May 28 2008, 06:41 PM) *
Those that were at the TDI meet where Dave and his rotrex IS was there everyone that went in it said its more powerful than the TTE one it really shoved you back into your seat with quite a punch and the torque seemed never ending.

You need to speak to Dave himself about it.


you have got to remember that dave's car is no ordinary supercharged car
it has been extensively worked upon and is probably the most forwardly evolved IS200 there is

there is no evidence of the rotrex supercharger being unreliable, in fact they have a good reliabilty record, and even more so, the same goes for the IS200 engine,
the problems occur when the two are put together ! there is no research or design applied, more a suck it and see whistling.gif
LEX11S
when i went up to tdi was talking about this car its running about 300-350 bhp i think? could be more it was in for a bit as they had to
make all new pullys as the supercharger broke them because of to much torque? but like everyone else has said ask the owner of the car!
Rob
QUOTE(LEX11S @ Jun 9 2008, 07:36 PM) *
could be more it was in for a bit as they had to make all new pullys as the supercharger broke them because of to much torque? !



doubt it mate as there is very little running torque on the SC or the alternator etc and as the old ones were solid then something was wrong or sh!^e material was used
ProLex-UK
QUOTE(LEX11S @ Jun 9 2008, 06:36 PM) *
when i went up to tdi was talking about this car its running about 300-350 bhp i think? could be more it was in for a bit as they had to
make all new pullys as the supercharger broke them because of to much torque? but like everyone else has said ask the owner of the car!



I'd ask for proof of those claimed figures............... whistling.gif
Fargo
QUOTE(LEX11S @ Jun 9 2008, 05:36 PM) *
when i went up to tdi was talking about this car its running about 300-350 bhp i think? could be more it was in for a bit as they had to
make all new pullys as the supercharger broke them because of to much torque? but like everyone else has said ask the owner of the car!


i asked dave himself what figures he was seeing.. his reply was "what do you mean" looking rather guarded. so i clarified "what power is it making" to which his reply was approx 400...

dont think anyone will know the true figures, cause theres so much bull^&*£ about it as there is no proof. i would certioanky be asking for the dyno charts after spending nearly 10k.
DJ Wozza
QUOTE(Fargo @ Jun 9 2008, 09:41 PM) *
...... would certainly be asking for the dyno charts after spending nearly 10k

I am told that is an underestimate whistling.gif
tdiplc
Gentlemen,

I wouldn't want you guys to get the wrong idea so please allow me to clear up some points here.

Without quoting everyone (to save some time), please allow me to put forward the following points:
1. Last time I enquired (fairly recently) there were a couple of TTE kits left in stock in Germany at around 5000 Euros. If they are still available they are the latest versionn not the V1 models which were the cheap ones on sale by TGB.

2. We do not offer the Rotrex for sale as a TDI product. We have only done one car which was specially commissioned by a client. We would be happy to undertake the same or similar specification again, and can confirm that we have the knowledge and technology to exceed 400hp using the supercharged 1G FE engine.

3. There have not been any reliability issues whatsover with any of the work done or products installed by us on the Rotrex supercharged car. As anyone sensible would understand, there has been ongoing development required as more standard components reached their toleration threshold. I'll touch on this shortly in the appropriate thread.

4. Our client received the dyno charts for this conversion when he took delivery of the car. I understand that he wants to maintain discretion on this issue, which of course is his perogative.


All the best smile.gif
DJ Wozza
QUOTE(tdiplc @ Jun 10 2008, 10:08 AM) *
.... and can confirm that we have the knowledge and technology to exceed 400hp using the supercharged 1G FE engine.


Can we have a ballpark figure as to the approximate cost of 400bhp fitted to an IS200 using a supercharger ?
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