just been out to visit family,a journey time of approx one hour
(inc return) in that time i've seen exactly 9 *** cars(i counted)
with their frappin fog lights on, is there a reason for this,its not foggy.

1 guy who was following me had the front to tell me my rear ones were on
(yes i do this to get at them) sorry!!, i told him that if he turns his front
ones off i'd turn mine off, he stormed off like a bat out of hell from the lights
giving me the finger(charming)............t*s**r

Pete

[quote name='pee.j' date='Apr 25 2003, 08:12 PM']just been out to visit family,a journey time of approx one hour
(inc return) in that time i've seen exactly 9 *** cars(i counted)
with their frappin fog lights on, is there a reason for this,its not foggy.

1 guy who was following me had the front to tell me my rear ones were on
(yes i do this to get at them) sorry!!, i told him that if he turns his front
ones off i'd turn mine off, he stormed off like a bat out of hell from the lights
giving me the finger(charming)............t*s**r

Pete [/quote]
Has something upset you today, Pete,
Or is it your time of the month?????????

Duncan yes b***y bmw drivers. why do they do it i know they are behind me
thats what a rear view mirror is for.

just dont understand it thats all

[quote name='pee.j' date='Apr 25 2003, 07:19 PM']Duncan yes b***y bmw drivers. why do they do it i know they are behind me
thats what a rear view mirror is for.

just dont understand it thats all[/quote]
It's cos their jealous of your fine automobile....

[quote name='pee.j' date='Apr 25 2003, 08:19 PM']Duncan yes b***y bmw drivers. why do they do it i know they are behind me
thats what a rear view mirror is for.

just dont understand it thats all[/quote]
We've had this debate before a few times, having front fogs on really annoys some people (like me and pee.j) other see nothing wrong with it!

I find that front fogs do diddly squat in fog, in all honesty.
You perhaps get marginal, and that's at best, improvement over not having them on.

I use my fogs in fog for the sole reason of making sure other drivers see [b]me[/b]


starts getting foggy - my rear fogs are on - I have a strange allergy to being rammed into by another vehicle cos theycould not see me.



conversely - stops being foggy - the fogs go [b]off[/b]

[quote name='Matthew_McNally' date='Apr 25 2003, 08:54 PM']I use my fogs in fog for the sole reason of making sure other drivers see [b]me[/b]


starts getting foggy - my rear fogs are on - I have a strange allergy to being rammed into by another vehicle cos theycould not see me.



conversely - stops being foggy - the fogs go [b]off[/b][/quote]
Agreed.

Fog lights can be quite bright (deliberately) if someone is driving around with them on behind you....

There is simply no need. Most cars have 'daylight/parking' dimmed headlights, why not just use those in fading light - no need for fogs... unless, foggy of course

The most common offenders always seem to be BMW drivers and Saxo drivers! Drive with their side lights on and fog lights.

yeah

but the BMW drivers paid £800 extra for the fog lights - so he'sgot to use them, hasn't he?

Good point that! And the Saxo driver has to prove his isn't the base model cause he's got fog lights.

why is it that the drivers with fogs on drive like idiots stuck up your rear end, perhaps it makes the car go quicker .In my opinion if it is ent foggy turn them of they are a pain in the **** , It just seems to me that the type of person who has them on all the time is the boy racer won,t stop for anyone type who wheel spins at every turning .

B.M.W. driver .....

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[quote]use my fogs in fog for the sole reason of making sure other drivers see me


starts getting foggy - my rear fogs are on - I have a strange allergy to being rammed into by another vehicle cos theycould not see me.[/quote]
Good point. Except that don't your headlights glow just as brightly as your front fogs? I don't really think they make you more visible from the front.

The rear fogs are a different kettle of fish. They are physically brighter than ordinary tail lights and as such do make you more visible. It's just a shame that some people think rear fogs lights should be left on all the time!!!! This are the people that annoy me. Front fogs never really bother me too much, although I agree they are oft misused.

[quote name='torrent' date='Apr 26 2003, 12:54 PM'][quote] use my fogs in fog for the sole reason of making sure other drivers see me


starts getting foggy - my rear fogs are on - I have a strange allergy to being rammed into by another vehicle cos theycould not see me.[/quote]
Good point. Except that don't your headlights glow just as brightly as your front fogs? I don't really think they make you more visible from the front.

The rear fogs are a different kettle of fish. They are physically brighter than ordinary tail lights and as such do make you more visible. It's just a shame that some people think rear fogs lights should be left on all the time!!!! This are the people that annoy me. Front fogs never really bother me too much, although I agree they are oft misused.[/quote]
sorry torrent - maybe you got the wrong end?



it was the rear fogs I was talking about

rarely use the front fogs - a few times down dark country lanes at night from memory - getting as much light on the road surface as possible (bad roads).

use the rears so traffic can see me from as far away as possible

So what does it matter to you what someone else does with their lights??

Im surprised GSs have fog lights......should have a fog horn
not often you see an Ocean Liner behind you

"So what does it matter to you what someone else does with their lights??"

Well its illegal, and unecessary thats why it matters!

[quote name='pee.j' date='Apr 26 2003, 03:19 PM']Im surprised GSs have fog lights......should have a fog horn
not often you see an Ocean Liner behind you [/quote]
Maybe so, but it's an ocean liner than would leave you standing if only you get the f**k outta da way!!!!

Maybe so, but it's an ocean liner than would leave you standing if only you get the f**k outta da way!!!!

After reading that i might join gold .Made my day
P.s still think fog lights are called fog lights for a reason though

Whether its the front or rear fogs they dazzle other road users, the highway code says to only use them in restricted visibility for a reason.

Damn i better turn off my front fog when i going to a Meet with you guys then, hehhehe

[QUOTE] Maybe so, but it's an ocean liner than would leave you standing if only you get the f**k outta da way!!!!

HHMMMMMMM.............would that be reffering to the IS in front

[quote name='mudzs' date='Apr 27 2003, 12:53 AM']Maybe so, but it's an ocean liner than would leave you standing if only you get the f**k outta da way!!!!

After reading that i might join gold .Made my day
P.s still think fog lights are called fog lights for a reason though [/quote]

[quote name='mudzs' date='Apr 26 2003, 11:53 PM']P.s still think fog lights are called fog lights for a reason though [/quote]
Ok, I hereby rename (by deed poll) the small front white lights on my car to:

'Light your car up like a Christmas Tree' lights

Problem solved.

I asked a guy at work once why he had his front fog lights on and he tried to convince me they were called driving lights not fog lights. I told him to go read his owners manual.

[quote name='torrent' date='Apr 27 2003, 11:41 AM'][quote name='mudzs' date='Apr 26 2003, 11:53 PM']P.s still think fog lights are called fog lights for a reason though [/quote]
Ok, I hereby rename (by deed poll) the small front white lights on my car to:

'Light your car up like a Christmas Tree' lights

Problem solved. [/quote]
I'm with Torrent on this!!

It's no good asking a BMW driver to read a manual....not enough photos

Just my tuppence. Having been a Lexus driver for nearly 3 years - but now have an X5 - I can honestly say that I still don't misuse my fog lights ! - I see plenty of Is200's with their front fogs on but I wouldn't put all Lexus drivers in the same category of driving with their fogs on all the time !