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TRD SPORTIVO SUSPENSION KIT for the IS200 - Complete suspension tuning kit, consisting of Lowered -20mm spring kit, matching shock absorber set with uprated front and rear anti roll bars with bushes. This kit is specially developed with ride and handling dramatically enhanced.

£985 + vat

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Contact Tony at Fensport

Fensport
8 Dock Road
Chatteris
Cambs
PE16 6RE

Tel: 01354 696968
Fax: 01354 696968
http://www.fensport.co.uk

One thing the kit has which adds value is the TRD front anti roll bar re-locator bracket which improves the handling greatly as the OEM bracket position is flawed

Thats seems like a good price. You've got the relocators at £275 so thats a full suspension kit and anti roll bars and bushes for not much dosh.

i knew i would see that coming

Thought you were trying to save us money Steve with the credit crunch and all that , So is Dan correct ??

Sorry have I started something? Just a observation that's all, on a brighter note how do these compare to the TTE setup?

You have to say though, that for £275 for a couple of aluminium brackets, they had better make a major handling improvement !

how have Toyota made the OEM Bracket position flawed?

What sort of shocks are these ? Is the damping adjustable at all ? Just wondering what these compare to.

I'm not actually interested myself, since I've just taken delivery of some C-One ARBs, just asking out of interest and for the benefit of others.

Also, out of curiosity, what is the spec of these white ARBs ? Are they the same as the TRD blues or yellows ?

Who knows, i dont check other prices as i was doing this for my friend at Fensport who i recommend. Mr VAT man is the one to blame otherwise it would be miles cheaper.

give fensport a shout.. ask for tony and he can answer the question for you mate, he's a nice bloke.

the shocks are not damp/rebound adjustable

the spec of the white ARB:


28.6mm Front Hollow type
16.0mm Rear Solid type

however i cannot find how much stiffer they are as std, i would suggest something close to the blue

Kit contents.. please excuse the formatting.. copy and pasted it and its a bit screwy

ALTEZZA
(SXE10, GXE10)

TRD Sportivo Suspension Full Set
180, 000
Full set of below shock absorber set, spring set and stabilizer bar set.
Shock Absorber Set
48030-SEZ20



61, 000
Front shock absorber 1270/932N
Rear shock absorber 1412/1060N
Rear shock absorber Cushion No.1 Extra firm type
Rear shock absorber Cushion No.2 Extra firm type
Coil Spring Set
48130-SEZ10



40, 000
Front Coil Spring K=51.6N/mm
Rear Coil Spring K=55.5N/mm
(Ride height approx. 20mm lowering)
Stabilizer Set
48800-SEZ10



79, 000
Front Stabilizer Bar (ƒÓ28.6 Hollow type)
Front stabilizer bush Exclusive for above stabilizre bar Extra firm type
Rear Stabilizer Bar (ƒÓ16.0 Solid type)
Rear stabilizer bush Exclusive for above stabilizre bar Extra firm type
Front Stabilizer Bracket Mount RH Material: Aluminum casting
Front Stabilizer Bracket Mount LH Material: Aluminum casting
Rear Suspension Member Cushion Color Material: Extra firm resin

For the ARB mounts, this is what the TRD website says on them (spelling errors are TRD's own !) :


So that makes it sound like the mounting position is the same, but the material for the mount further adds some stiffness. I could be wrong though, this is just my (possibly flawed) interpretation.


For the ARBs themselves, the spec of TRD blues is 30.0mm front and 19.1mm rear, both hollow. So it sounds like these are certainly yet another different set of TRD ARBs

i agree, just seems that the bracket is in the same place, but instead of the pressed steel mounting bracket, you have an aluminium one, which due to the nature of the material will be thicker, lighter and be stiffer, however id be interested to see how much flex there is in the pressed steel bracket



not undertsanding this though, the improvement in % terms is a fixed figure, unless it means the aluminium bracket is 120% stiffer than the steel bracket, ?

I read it that using the aluminium brackets, instead of getting x% stiffness from your ARBs, you get x+20% stiffness (not x+120% stiffness). Which makes it sound like the bracket is 20% stiffer ?

yup, totally agree...that makes sense

So if that's true, I really can't see that £275 is worth it to get an extra 20% stiffness from your ARB, unless you've done everything else possible to stiffen things up and still need more.

TRD made the bracket as part of the Sportivo kit which was used on the TRD racing altezza cars (Netz series) So I'd say that was proof enough that they are an improvement. TRD would not go to the trouble of making something up and then selling it if it was not of benefit to the car.

The BTCC Team made their own brackets as well on their cars...if i remember correctly they said it was something to do with the actual position of the OEM mounting points that comprimised the efficiency of the OEM brackets.

On the subject of pricing mine have to be made to order and the £/Yen excahnge rate at 149 when it used to be 210 is killing us that import from Japan.

I've turned away two enquiries for these to date hoping that the £ will pick it skirts up and the price can come down

Sorry, I know I'm going a bit here, but since we're talking about the mounting brackets for the ARBs, I've just noticed that my C-One ARBs have come with brackets as shown in the pics below :





I guess these are steel rather than aluminium (they don't feel particularly light), but I'm wondering if they've similarly been designed to similarly be stiffer than the OEM brackets ? Or am I misunderstanding and these brackets fit somewhere else ?

Thanks, you're right, I obviously was looking at the wrong thing before. Sounds like those in the Sportivo kit are probably the same as the TRD blues, just a different colour (I realise in theory they could be the same size but different stiffness, but I can't see why they'd make yet another different spec).

that is because the bar is thicker, so the bracket on the car wont fit them properly, i had the same thing with my Cusco bars

i understand why the bracket has been done, its stiffer than the pressed steel bracket, i dont see how it can relocate anything as the ARB will be of the same physical dimension as the oem, and every other ARB designed for the car.

and as stevie said, i can see it will reduce the small amount of flex that may occur on the oem bracket, but that doesnt make it flawed

but this is about the full kit, if it comes with the kit, at that price it all seems good

the sportivo white ARB, are the same size as the TRD Yellow ARB

from everything that ive seen of the Netz cup cars,(and ive looked at alot...i was thinking of buying one!!) and looking at the TRD japan site, the netz cup cars ran something similer to the suskit coilovers, however they were not the same, the difference was the coilover bodys differed in colour depending on the spec, and the spring rates were an option...ive ordered some higher kg/mm springs from TRD Technocraft a few weeks ago





here is the parts list

TRD Altezza race car coilover parts list

and here is the TRD Technocraft Japan full listing, for parts, most are still available and a decent dealership can order the parts, be aware though some bits are now discontinued

Full TRD Altezza parts list

Actually I take that back. According to the TRD site, the TRD blues are a different size to the whites, 30.0mm front, 19.1mm rear.

thats the same as the yellow ARB....

I give up on the blue vs yellow thing, it confused me before and it doesn't seem to be getting any better


Back to the brackets (e.g. the TRD ones, and presumably my C-One brackets too). Where would these fit ? I've looked in the online workshop manual and in this diagram of the front ARB, I can't see anything like those brackets. Am I looking in the wrong place ?

My brain hurts

when you go to do the bar you will see the main part of the bracket, it is bolted to the chassis leg, and will be quite evident, your U brackets hold the ARB to the new bracket, and/ or the OEM bracket

So the brackets which go around the bushing attach to this new bracket in place of the OEM one ?

looks like they do relocate it and even change the plane !

nope just looks like a re-in forced bracket similar to the OEM one, ive flipped it into the correct orientation....



green dots are the mounting holes for the bracket, they can just bee seen on the top flat of the black bracket of stevie

just as the Cusco one was, i had for my Cusco bars.

i agree it may clamp the bar further inboard of the chassis leg, but basically looks the same, albeit with the extra return/brace

but whatever, i agree its a stronger bracket than the oem one



anyway, going off topic.

yup

...................TOM's tell me that TRD told them that these relocate the position of the ARB as well...not by much but enought to make a significant difference

? TOMS, TRD...

what are you on about.....we are on about the brackets above for the C-One ARB

relocating the ARB at its main point will not effect its action, only changing the point on the end, e.g...the TTE rear, that is adjustable because you can select different holes for the drop link, the lever effect!!....

lowering the ARB will not do anything either, its irrelevant where the main chassis mounting is, its the difference in length from the chassis mount to the drop link point, the shorter the distance the greater the resistance to twist....fact!!!

Thanks, I was trying to figure out which way up it went. And thanks for the pic showing the original bracket.

Yes, I thought it seemed like it was perhaps a stronger bracket that the OEM one, since it seems to include bracing. So hopefully it's just as good as the (very) expensive TRD ones (i.e. getting the most out of the new ARB).




Yeah, but to be fair, the original discussion was about the TRD brackets, and I then confused things with my own questions about how they related (or not) to my C-One brackets.

Anyway, sorry for the off-topicness, what about that TRD Sportivo kit, eh ?