Hi guys
Ive had my 430 for 3 months and I do on average 20 miles a week in it - mostly short journeys. I know its not great mileage but thats how much I travel. I'll drive it a couple of times a week for a local run around. Coz the battery is not getting charged up properly, it is draining and stays weak. Often I have to jump start it. The alternator is fine.
I need your ever helpful advice. Im considering getting one of those solar powered trickle chargers (£10-20 from Maplin kind of thing). What does anyone think? They mostly have adapators so they charge your battery through your cig lighter. Is this ok? Does anyone know if this will damage my electrics? If you recommend I change my battery, what type / make would you suggest?
Any advice would be great to prevent me from being left stranded!!
Thanks
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I bought one of these for the same reason,but I was not very impressed,
Think it might be OK on a tiny battery,but even with this in the windscreen the battery will slowly go flat.
I like the idea but feel the £10-£20 models haven't got the clout.
May be worth getting a better quality one.
Also check if your cigarette lighter socket is live with the ignition off, on my LS 400 it's not,
so you have to use the croc. clips direct on to the battery.
[traiilng wires from engine to panel in car}
Think it might be OK on a tiny battery,but even with this in the windscreen the battery will slowly go flat.
I like the idea but feel the £10-£20 models haven't got the clout.
May be worth getting a better quality one.
Also check if your cigarette lighter socket is live with the ignition off, on my LS 400 it's not,
so you have to use the croc. clips direct on to the battery.
[traiilng wires from engine to panel in car}
I understand that most bettery drain is caused by the alarm.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
QUOTE (RichieRrich @ Nov 23 2008, 12:45 PM) 
I understand that most bettery drain is caused by the alarm.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
I had one in my Mk3, but it couldn't keep up with the alarm, and other permanent equipment drain.
I don't think the cigarette lighter is permantly 'live', it definitely wasn't on my car, so I had to adapt the charger with a couple of crocodile clips directly onto the battery.
A bit of a drag removing all of this every time, so I found a hidden route for the wire and left it in place, just unplugging it from the charger when I used the car.
IMHO I think they are a good idea, but go for the best/biggest output you can afford, otherwise all you will do is to delay an inevitable flat battery.
From memory I think my solar charger put out 8 watts, which was no where near enough to keep the battery up.
Regards,
Chris Vince
QUOTE (chris vince @ Nov 23 2008, 10:57 PM)
QUOTE (RichieRrich @ Nov 23 2008, 12:45 PM)
I understand that most bettery drain is caused by the alarm.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
If your car is kept overnight in a secure place ....
why not just use your key to lock the car.... only use the alarm when left somewhere vulnerable.
Does anyone know if the LS has an imobiliser?
I have an S2000 fitted with a cobra alarm....if you manually lock this the imobiliser still operates.
If this is the same with the Lex alarm, maybe safe enough without setting.
saves all the hassle of battery drain and lockout!
Rich.
I had one in my Mk3, but it couldn't keep up with the alarm, and other permanent equipment drain.
I don't think the cigarette lighter is permantly 'live', it definitely wasn't on my car, so I had to adapt the charger with a couple of crocodile clips directly onto the battery.
A bit of a drag removing all of this every time, so I found a hidden route for the wire and left it in place, just unplugging it from the charger when I used the car.
IMHO I think they are a good idea, but go for the best/biggest output you can afford, otherwise all you will do is to delay an inevitable flat battery.
From memory I think my solar charger put out 8 watts, which was no where near enough to keep the battery up.
Regards,
Chris Vince
Sorry I had a MK4, DOH!!!
Hi,
Is the battery in good condition? if not it would be better to replace rather than charge up.
the short journeys do cause a huge drain on your battery, normally it take around 20 mins to recharge after a start.
but of your doing several journeys a week and only doing 20 miles then the battery will be struggling to cope. also you're engine will be suffering as the oil and engine will never get up to temperature.
it would be a good idea to go for a long ( 30/40 mins) drive once a week.
as a last resort A good quality battery charger with low ac ripple, a 3 amp charger should have enough power to feed the standing load of the alarm system and charge the battery, but you should really charge the battery out of the car, which can be a pain.
Is the battery in good condition? if not it would be better to replace rather than charge up.
the short journeys do cause a huge drain on your battery, normally it take around 20 mins to recharge after a start.
but of your doing several journeys a week and only doing 20 miles then the battery will be struggling to cope. also you're engine will be suffering as the oil and engine will never get up to temperature.
it would be a good idea to go for a long ( 30/40 mins) drive once a week.
as a last resort A good quality battery charger with low ac ripple, a 3 amp charger should have enough power to feed the standing load of the alarm system and charge the battery, but you should really charge the battery out of the car, which can be a pain.
Hi an optimax charger should do the trick, as long as you can run a lead to the car that is, outherwise you are looking at a fairly large solar panel, my panels i used on my motor caravan were about 4 by 2.5 foot and only produced 3.7 amps max (direct sunlight in Greece)
hope this is of help Mark
hope this is of help Mark
Thanks guys for the advice.
Can I ask, by using the actual key in my fob to lock the car (instead of pressing the button on the door / key fob), will that way of locking it use less battery power to secure the car?
Can I ask, by using the actual key in my fob to lock the car (instead of pressing the button on the door / key fob), will that way of locking it use less battery power to secure the car?
Yes ! 
If you use the key you are still operating the door solenoids and activating the immobilizer etc? are you not?
QUOTE (Matrixabc @ Dec 2 2008, 12:58 PM)
If you use the key you are still operating the door solenoids and activating the immobilizer etc? are you not?
Yes from what I see when I use the key, it still operates the central locking and I persume the immobilizer, however, it does not switch on the smartkey facilities and in the interior alarm - which are the ones that really drain the battery
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