Zee007
June 24, 2003, 11:18 am
Using a handheld mobile phone while driving is to be made illegal.
Drivers caught using a handheld mobile phone face a fine of up to £1,000 and three points on their licence.
[url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3015610.stm"]Full Story Here[/url]
ricky_is200
June 24, 2003, 11:24 am
It doesn't make it clear on hands free kits, I wonder if the ear piece type will still be allowed.
Fargo
June 24, 2003, 11:28 am
That woudl also mean that smoking at the wheel should be banned, turning your radio on should be band........etc etc
MsW
June 24, 2003, 11:32 am
I do actually agree with the ban - I have had a couple of near misses with folk who are on their mobile and have trouble when it comes to steering one-handed round a very sharp, two lane, uphill bend on the way to Halifax
But I confess - I do it all the time too
I don't always turn on my hands free......

- then when a call comes in, I'm a bit stuck.
Just laziness I suppose - have to sharpen up my act.
MsW
June 24, 2003, 11:37 am
[quote name='Fargo' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:28 PM']That woudl also mean that smoking at the wheel should be banned, turning your radio on should be band........etc etc[/quote]
Somewhat

already, I know, but I was once stung on the thigh by a wasp whilst I was driving - now that was scary.
(The wasp needless to say died a quick, but I hope extremely painful, death

)
ricky_is200
June 24, 2003, 11:40 am
I totally agree with the ban, just as long as you can still use hands free kits.
djanderso
June 24, 2003, 11:40 am
[quote name='MsW' date='Jun 24 2003, 11:32 AM']steering one-handed round a very sharp, two lane, uphill bend on the way to Halifax.[/quote]
whilst at the same time trying to open a mars bar, drink a coffee, and read a map.
Zee007
June 24, 2003, 11:49 am
I was once on my mobile phone whilst driving....
I lost control and wrote the car off....
I had to switch my Playstation off and start again........
MsW
June 24, 2003, 11:50 am
[quote name='djanderso' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:40 PM'][quote name='MsW' date='Jun 24 2003, 11:32 AM'] steering one-handed round a very sharp, two lane, uphill bend on the way to Halifax.[/quote]
whilst at the same time trying to open a mars bar, drink a coffee, and read a map. [/quote]
You've driven past them too?
burnsy234
June 24, 2003, 11:50 am
[quote name='MsW' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:37 PM'][quote name='Fargo' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:28 PM'] That woudl also mean that smoking at the wheel should be banned, turning your radio on should be band........etc etc[/quote]
Somewhat

already, I know, but I was once stung on the thigh by a wasp whilst I was driving - now that was scary.
(The wasp needless to say died a quick, but I hope extremely painful, death

) [/quote]

hope it wasen't by blood poisoning
Matthew_McNally
June 24, 2003, 12:32 pm
got to agree with this - even if I have been guilty of it myself lately (broke bluetooth handsfree kit).
it does raise some interesting questions though - such as how can it be illegal for members of the public to use a mobile, yet not illegal for the police to operate their radios?
Fargo
June 24, 2003, 12:38 pm
[quote name='Matthew_McNally' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:32 PM']got to agree with this - even if I have been guilty of it myself lately (broke bluetooth handsfree kit).
it does raise some interesting questions though - such as how can it be illegal for members of the public to use a mobile, yet not illegal for the police to operate their radios?[/quote]
Probally by way of 'upholding the law' get out clause..
rhaines
June 24, 2003, 12:43 pm
Was listening to the news on the story, it will be illegal for you to use your phone but [b]NOT[/b] to use the handsfree kit.
What I find amusing is the fact that one of the main arguemtns is that if you are talking you are 4 times more likely to have an accident as you are concentrating on your conversation. At the end of the day you are still concentrating on your conversation on the handsfree. I used to have a handsfree and found I paid less attention on the handsfree as I knew both hands were on the wheel....
Agree with it being banned though....
2p added
Fargo
June 24, 2003, 12:47 pm
And if your talking on hands free,, then talking in the car to passengers is the same thing
but i do agree with the ban and i am also guilty of flouting the law.
javadude
June 24, 2003, 12:50 pm
I almost had my wife and 2 daughters wiped out by a lorry driver going through a red light while on his mobile. So I agree.
ricky_is200
June 24, 2003, 1:11 pm
[quote name='rhaines' date='Jun 24 2003, 01:43 PM']Was listening to the news on the story, it will be illegal for you to use your phone but [b]NOT[/b] to use the handsfree kit.
What I find amusing is the fact that one of the main arguemtns is that if you are talking you are 4 times more likely to have an accident as you are concentrating on your conversation. At the end of the day you are still concentrating on your conversation on the handsfree. I used to have a handsfree and found I paid less attention on the handsfree as I knew both hands were on the wheel....
Agree with it being banned though....
2p added

[/quote]
I have two phones, one a company one which I have a proper Nokia hands free kit die and the other my own which I just have an earpiece for. I find the proper hands free kit far less distracting to use.
DUNCAN
June 24, 2003, 1:31 pm
[quote name='ricky_is200' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:24 PM']It doesn't make it clear on hands free kits, I wonder if the ear piece type will still be allowed.[/quote]
According to "Top Gear" last Sunday evening, using an ear piece is still illegal...
Fidgits
June 24, 2003, 1:34 pm
The news today said that 'hands free' is not illegal...
This includes ear-pieces/bluetooth headsets/in car kits...
The issue is not nessacerily that using that talking on the phone is more dangerous than taking to people in the car, and lets be honest, having children in the car is probably a lot more distracting...
But because so many people talk while driving, and therefore only have one hand to control the car, indicators and gearbox, AND are paying less attention because they are having a conversation...
I'm sure we've all been p

d off by someone not indicating and pulling in/out on the motorway.. only to see a phone plastered to their ear!
Hopefully this law will encorage people to spend the HUGE amount of 10 quid on a handsfree ear-piece... and then they will be able to control the car properly..
rhaines
June 24, 2003, 1:53 pm
[quote name='DUNCAN' date='Jun 24 2003, 01:31 PM'][quote name='ricky_is200' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:24 PM'] It doesn't make it clear on hands free kits, I wonder if the ear piece type will still be allowed.[/quote]
According to "Top Gear" last Sunday evening, using an ear piece is still illegal... [/quote]
And we all know how reliable and accurate Top Gear are
wildrnes
June 24, 2003, 2:07 pm
[quote name='DUNCAN' date='Jun 24 2003, 02:31 PM'][quote name='ricky_is200' date='Jun 24 2003, 12:24 PM'] It doesn't make it clear on hands free kits, I wonder if the ear piece type will still be allowed.[/quote]
According to "Top Gear" last Sunday evening, using an ear piece is still illegal... [/quote]
you think anything they say is true
Scorpion
June 24, 2003, 5:02 pm
jac114
June 24, 2003, 6:39 pm
Totally agree with it... going

about smoking... I wrote off one of my cars whilst trying to light a ciggie doing 60 (in a 60) a pickup in front stopped i didnt The moral of the story is ITS NOT UNTIL YOU CRASH you realise how bloody stupid you were.. lucky i knew the guy whose pickup i wrote off.. everybody was fine. but could have ended up much different.
jac
uzziz
June 24, 2003, 7:03 pm
Hi all
I just recently purchased a device from ebay called The Amazing Car Baby
It works with any mobile phone
Don`t get caught out using your mobile whilst driving, this universal gadget will save you the hassle of getting a 3 points or £1000 fine
Simple to use, tune your radio to one of two set frequencies, clip the Car Baby to your phone and press the button, the car baby will send all incoming speech to your radio.

only cost me £7.50 including delivery
havent received it yet...
ifraz
June 24, 2003, 9:01 pm
[quote name='uzziz' date='Jun 24 2003, 08:03 PM']Hi all
I just recently purchased a device from ebay called The Amazing Car Baby
It works with any mobile phone
Don`t get caught out using your mobile whilst driving, this universal gadget will save you the hassle of getting a 3 points or £1000 fine
Simple to use, tune your radio to one of two set frequencies, clip the Car Baby to your phone and press the button, the car baby will send all incoming speech to your radio.

only cost me £7.50 including delivery
havent received it yet...[/quote]
I have a hands free car kit installed in my car,but for some unknown reason I was very curious about this 'The Amazing Car Baby' so I have just oredred one. Wanna know if it's just a toy or if it really does work. Sounds like a joke to me
Oh, and I only paid 5.49 for mine inc. delivery
uzziz
June 24, 2003, 9:04 pm
rhaines
June 24, 2003, 9:05 pm
Sounds ideal but what about the microphone ???
ifraz
June 24, 2003, 10:58 pm
[quote name='rhaines' date='Jun 24 2003, 10:05 PM']Sounds ideal but what about the microphone ???[/quote]
******...I never thought about that.
I knew it must be a toy

How's it gonna work
Still curious
Fidgits
June 25, 2003, 6:56 am
My new phone has a 'loudspeaker' function.. so all I need is a phone holder and I've got a hands free kit...
greeneyes
June 25, 2003, 7:34 am
This argument is current in NZ also, with the sheeple baying that 'The Guvmint must DO something.."
We already have laws that cover 'driving without due care and attention', which would cover phones if needed.
Some research came out this week showing that holding the phone does not degrade driving skill in an emergency, but it is the conversation that distracts the driver's concentration.
As noted, lets ban listening to talkback radio, talking to passengers, singing along with a CD, having a smoke.....
Fidgits
June 25, 2003, 7:41 am
I wonder how long it's gonna be before the goverment decides to ban driving???
Zee007
June 25, 2003, 8:30 am
[quote name='ifraz' date='Jun 24 2003, 10:01 PM']I have a hands free car kit installed in my car,but for some unknown reason I was very curious about this 'The Amazing Car Baby' so I have just oredred one. Wanna know if it's just a toy or if it really does work. Sounds like a joke to me
Oh, and I only paid 5.49 for mine inc. delivery

[/quote]
I'd be interested to see if this works Ifraz - keep us posted....
ifraz
June 25, 2003, 9:26 am
[quote name='Zee007' date='Jun 25 2003, 09:30 AM'][quote name='ifraz' date='Jun 24 2003, 10:01 PM'] I have a hands free car kit installed in my car,but for some unknown reason I was very curious about this 'The Amazing Car Baby' so I have just oredred one. Wanna know if it's just a toy or if it really does work. Sounds like a joke to me
Oh, and I only paid 5.49 for mine inc. delivery

[/quote]
I'd be interested to see if this works Ifraz - keep us posted.... [/quote]
Will do
rhaines
June 25, 2003, 9:30 am
[quote name='Fidgits' date='Jun 25 2003, 07:41 AM']I wonder how long it's gonna be before the goverment decides to ban driving???[/quote]
Don't you mean increase the taxes on motorists again, increase the number of speed camera's while dropping the speed lmiits, increase tax fee's, introducing further ownership fee's, increasing the cost of fuel and seeking help to increase the cost in insurance.....
Hang on they've started most of those already !
Fever
June 26, 2003, 9:29 am
IMO they should have bought this rule in much sonner!! It's a good move!!
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