Hi Y'all

I for one would still very much like an LOC 2004 Calender.
How many others would.
Im sure as members of a club that listens to its members perhaps something can be worked out.

The Poll was meant to have a 5th line saying No - Err no. but somehow this was added to the end of the 4th line.. perhaps a mod can fix

Any chance of entering a new photo seeing I scored [0] votes last time

yes i would like to see a calender

but....

i dont think its fair that the moderators choose, for the fact they have entries themselves and to be fair would have to remove them, i beleive they have as much right to be in it as anyone

to take the voting from the point before any cheating took place, who is to say when that started ? and what about the genuine votes after that time

closed voting , i am sure someone will querey the result unless it is done in the open

as for the fourth poll vote , not sure i know what that means


in my opinion it has been ruined, and understandly i can see the people involved are a bit ****** off with that,
more hard work done for all of us down the pan !!!

Hmmmm, I voted for mods ( shhh it's a secret ) but didn't think about what Bazza has just said, fair point mate

Hope the votes for this poll aren't rigged

Also if there is another vote will something be put in place to stop multiple votes?

It may be already to late to go to print anybody know ?

stopping multiple votes would be hard.

if people can crack dongled software then I am sure a simple voting system would be easy

however, deliberate multiple voting to get someone banned from the comp could have happened.

Matt M is investigating at the mo

Paul,

I appreciate the effort mate - and realise that many people (especially me!) would have liked this to go ahead.


However, there is no way to guarantee that no gamesmanship takes place - and with the previous history it would be hard to convince me to put more effort into it, especially as the effort on the voting was not mine -Steve did all the hard work on the poll (/tips hat to Steve )


Right now - the only way I can going forward would I pick the 12 photos, on the basis of which ones I think would look the best in the different months.

I have not entered a picture, and have no vested interest in seeing any specific picture on the calendar.

My only motivation would be to try and salvage some good from this.


How does this sound?

yes Bazza, your right Re the Mods entires.. its a toughie now that the voting has been messed with,
perhaps if any entries of the mods were in the top 12 then they should be included and then the rest of the photos, be picked by them, or us.. whatever..

th point about taking the results from before the fiddled numbers, my view is that Mr Lex was always in the lead at approx 28 votes and the closest vote to that was about 18-21 if i remember right. and im happy with that and certainly all looked ok..


The Poll was ment to have a 5th line saying No - Err no. but somehow this was added to the end of the 4th line.. perhaps a mod can fiddle with me pole err i mean poll.

good call !

I reckon you should pick,to be in your best judgement the top 12 photos
and make a calendar out of those.

I for one would trust the judges decision to do this.

did the membership go up in the last 2 weeks?

I second that good call...

you want me to shut down this poll, so you can see if people want to go forward this way Paul?

i also havnt entered a picture, and im very honest

Me third - I still think the calendar is a good idea - lets get whatever good we can from this.

So it could still go ahead? It would be a shame if so called gamesmanship won the day!

As long as those that have been guilty are NOT entered into the comp?

Second that. I think Matt should do the judging and those that cheated (I'm sure we can get proof ) are disallowed

Take my picture out of the compo if it makes life easier - totally not fussed

unfortunately - the loss of the forums has removed some evidence.

I can defintely tell you that one IP address voted 99 times.

but the loss of the forums means I cannot see who has posted recently with that IP address.


but - I still have an eye open

Hope thats not an admission of guilt Rod

So are you going to name them?

Errr - that's an admission of I really don't give a crap about the compo anymore and if people are gonna get all busted outta shape just because I, as a moderator, have my car entered then I would sooner be not involved Pete mate.

I mean it's not like I just spent half of my weekend reloading a shedload of stuff into the forums / knowledgebase / membership system or anything - why should I deserve anything?!!

Cor blimey mate calm down......did'nt you see the smilies after the statement?

Personally i could'nt give a stuff who enters/judges as long as its done how its supposed to be judged
on the quality of the pic.

Also why is the club protecting the person/s who cheated.........name them.

see my post above Pete - I know the IPs of people who voted > once - but the loss of the forum history means I cannot see which member(s) have posted with those IP addresses.

Rod

if we do this so that either I, or myself and Mat C, do the judging, then there is no reason why your picture and Steve's cannot remain in the competition - your photo will be fairly judged for a position in the calendar.


I do not hear any dissension to the idea of Mat and I judging - does anyone feel this is a bad idea?

So stop the voting of the comp now and you or whoever was gonna judge pick
the final twelve as this will save all the hassle of more cheating.

how about voting by email, but only the votes from members registered emails count?

I thought it was a competition for the Lexus range?everybody who is a member can enter wether or not they're a mod.

Maybe enough has been said on this topic for now.....

I think Matt M would be a fair judge and I would be happy if he picked out his top 12 for the calender.

I don't think the calender competition should be scrapped because there are too many nice entries and it would be a real shame for the club and it's members if they weren't given a chance.

Yes you are..

Yes Matt M, lets close this thread, i think everyone is in agreement yourself and Mat C to judge.....just as long as mine is in there....

Hear hear,i completly trust the judges judgement on this,so there is no need to have another vote.

but i'd still like to know who it was that cheated

pete.. all this reverse psychology crap.. no-one believes you, come on admit it was YOU who cheated..

Lets stop complicating things... Matt (I think) just said even though he is off with all this he will judge on what he thinks deserves to be in the calendar? Is everyone happy with that? No email votes... no ( i think we should do it this way or that ) Is everyone happy to take him up on his offer and try to salvage this

is what i think has just been agreed.

That was on the tip of my ................ keyboard - this way you can manually control things and people cant beat the system

rather leave it open for a bit longer Paul - there have only been a small number of people read this, and I do not want to come across as being keen to completely take over and run rampant over peoples votes.

yeh man,, whatever you think....

PAUL YOUVE JUST CONDEMED YOURSELF,BY EXPRESSING THAT YOUR O.K FOR BOTH MATTS TO JUDGE AS LONG AS YOURS IS IN THERE................KNOBLING JUDGES ALREADY!!

DOHHHHHH

i am for
mat m and mat c
having final desicion on who is in or not

I'm happy for matt to make the decision.

Guess its too much to ask for the cheat / cheats to own up and stop all the bickering

i personally dont think that we should know

doesnt matter who
just that someone did
they know who they are

wouldnt want to alienate someone for what was probably a joke to them




and no scorpion, it wasnt me

No we don't want to down that road do we.

I don't think it should be scrapped, let Matt judge it

I dont think they would be alienated... your probably right and it was just a bit of a joke to them but. Personaly I think its the best way to clear this up once and for all. Is anyone man enough to admit?

Well they was MAN enough to cheat but i doubt they are MAN enough to own up to it.but i would like to know who the Charles Ingram of the club is?so that in future i would'nt participate in competitions that this person is entering.

And i dont know why you thought that Bazza.....i dont know why you mentioned my name,im not judge and jury!!

or woman

Come On...

My walls gonna be empty in the new year...

I saw all the entries and thought they were all great, it was difficult to pick a favourite. As I have no interest as a participant I agree that Matt & Matt should judge but only if they want to.
I'm looking forward to the winners pictures (of their cars ) being on my living room / bedroom / toilet wall* delete as applicable.
Rob (new member.... again )

That is how we conducted voting for the Honda Revolutions Calendar - it didn't take much work to count up the votes, and so long as people trust those doing the counting not to bump their own scores (which I trust them) .... it works fine!

I also say both matts to decide on the pix....

while I'm here...I'm sure many members think I have cheated or have links to cheating to my votes but all I can say that I did not vote in the region the vote is/was and had no relation to cheating, underhand voting or anything like that...

As Matt_Mcnally is looking into this, I hope it does clarify's the situation...