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4 hours ago, ColinBarber said:
Tax savings for company cars, and salary sacrifice schemes, means that new EVs are relatively cheap - but with leases typically only being 2 to 3 years in duration means these soon come onto the used car market and private buyers aren't purchasing them at the same rate - hence values have dropped.
But having said that the number for sale is not disproportionate. Last year the market share for EVs was 19.7% of all new car sales. Autotrader currently has 18.8% EVs for sale out of all the 2023 cars listed.
Charging at public chargers used to be occasionally free and usually cheaper than petrol. Tesla Superchargers are often still cheaper than petrol but with the rise in electricity prices with the Ukraine war, 20% vat and large amount of capital investment in new chargers its usually around petrol prices to charge away from home. If you can mostly charge at home then its about 10% the price of petrol but for those that can't cheaper fuel is not a draw towards EVs at the moment.
Then there's all the ridiculous FUD spread in the media and online from people who are just proving their lack of knowledge. That puts people off too. I keep being told by friends who've never driven an EV and needed to charge one that the infrastruture isn't there yet. It depends on where you are and your usage but I've never had a problem charging away from home.
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On 1/24/2024 at 10:29 AM, e-yes said:
Didn't think I would consider this... but Tesla Model 3
Purely because it is surprisingly coming in at very affordable levels all things considered.
Seem to be more difficult to steal from what I hear (as long as you have "pin to drive" enabled) although high insurance groups because of the performance.
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12 hours ago, talaipwros said:
should I offer 45K and see what happens?
Or buy a brand new Tesla 3 for £39,990 with a range of 318 miles, 0-60 in 5.8 sec and access to the Tesla supercharger network.
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3 hours ago, ganzoom said:
The difference is we are in 2023, Nissan made the Leaf in 2011. Anyone who thinks EV are still 'new' tech needs to get out more 🙂
Our current EV is our 3rd, and despite being 6 years old seems to have more range and better technology than a brand new RZ.
The problem isn't EVs, it's the RZ. It's about 10 years behind in technology compared to what everyone else is selling right now. You have to be a die hard Lexus/Toyota fan to buy one.
I wouldn't say 10 years behind but yeah they're still playing catch up with the competition. The RZ is very nice inside, better than my 3, don't know about an X. It will suit some people who aren't too bothered with range, charge speed or performance and just want a nice car. As a car its good, but there plenty of better EVs out there. I see that Lexus are planning better in 2026, which is about a decade too late but will be interesting to see what they produce: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/lexus-ev-concept-tokyo
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I used to get really good service from Lexus Reading although its been 3 years since my last experience of them.
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1 hour ago, ganzoom said:
A Model X is larger, carries more people, and had higher performance motors. We did 160miles in torrential rain yesterday from Leicester to Cardiff and got 2.8 miles per kWh travelling at 70mph when possible in ours which has done 71k miles now and 7 years old soon!
Even in near perfect test conditions the RZ cannot achieve better than 3 miles per kWh at 70mph. For essentially a brand new EV, the efficiency of the RZ is horrific.
A 2023 Model Y which is similar size to the RZ will hit 4 miles per kWh in perfect conditions nearly twice as efficient as the RZ.
Good point. I thought the Y was a bit smaller, certainly the X and Y are more aerodynamic at the front. Excuses aside Lexus do have a way to go. Hopefully their third EV will be better... whatever/whenever that arrives...
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It's huge and not very aerodynamic so its no surprise. If you want efficency then a saloon would be better. It's a shame they're not doing an IS or RS EV. Apart from that its a very nice car. The interior is a nice place to be.
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No.
Is it something to do with lemon cake?
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59 minutes ago, NemesisUK said:
Because Musk has dropped the price of new cars considerably over the last few months. They are just not worth what they were...
The plus side is you can pick up a used Tesla pretty cheap these days which is good news for some.
As mentioned the insurance can be high, one reason being the insurance group (my LR is group 50) but it depends on circumstances: I pay £760 but I'm 55 which helps.
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On 9/19/2023 at 8:12 PM, GMB said:
Sorry guys you just don't get it do you?
Fast acceleration is nice but in an electric box it is one dimensional boring. What about the whole experience - the sound and feel of the V8. The character. The change through the gears. The good feeling from being able to control the car correctly. The isF compared to the electric box is like fine Opera compared to Showaddywaddy.
I don't want a clinical, soulless, car. I want the theatre and the experience of a real car with real character. I love my isF but I think I love my motorbike just as well - I would have said more but I don't want to upset the isF- . Now ( motorcycling) that is a real feeling of satisfaction when you get it right. God forbid you get it wrong!🏍️😱
I used to think the same. I had an IS200 with big exhaust and induction kit and it was fun. My Tesla is more fun with the g force of acceleration and instant response. No gears, no faff, just linear acceleration and buckets of power/torque whenever you want it. It's AWD with Mitchelin Pro Sport 4s and just sticks to the road. I find being about to do 0-60 in about 3.7s in near silence makes me smile. (Best done on a quiet dry road and I do tend to keep to the speed limit, just have fun getting there sometimes.) For me now the noise of old ICE cars now seems a bit well... pathetic, even BTCC and F1 which I enjoy. When I'm just cruising, which is most of the time, the acceleration, silence and one pedal driving make it effortless and relaxing to drive. I'd never go back even if it cost me more to run.
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The yellow ones are pretty rare.
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Sadly there is no analogue input in the console of an RX400h.
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2 hours ago, Localhero said:
I have had the same experience in my brothers electric BMW, frightening and actually hurt my back, but I went to visit him recently, on the way there stopped at services at Telford where there are 8 tesla charge points, all full and 6 cars waiting, my sc430 did the round trip just under 400 miles without filling so which is quicker???
Having to queue to charge is rare in my experience. I've only had to wait once and that was at the small/busy gatwick SC site and only for a couple of mins. Next time I did charge near there I charged while going to the toilet at Peas Pottage services where they have a row of new ultra rapids. This autumn there's a new charging forecort going in near the airport with 36 chargers so I'll give that a try if I need a charge.
Also if you're stopping anyway then you just charge while you do whatever you're doing. It just takes the time it takes to plug in and start the charge, no standing around at a smelly petrol pump and queuing while someone pays for their latte and chooses their lottery numbers.
23 minutes ago, Spacewagon52 said:I could not agree more Ron. The poor reliabilty and finish would put me off. I do not need to race about, and to be frank it is very difficult on our busy roads. Wafting along at legal speeds in a 4 litre V8 is an experience you should have before they become extinct!
I have nothing against electric cars - just any car that is poorly made and unreliable. hence my choice of Lexus/Toyota/Mitsubishi (in the past)
Wafting along in near silence is pretty awesome though.
I'm looking forward to Lexus producing a fast/efficient EV saloon or medium sized SUV that has all the comforts and build quality we've come to expect.
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I had one for 3 years. I'd come from an RX400h so the 4 cyclinder engine seemed noisy and a bit feeble but apart from that it was a lovely car and had no issues with it in the time I owned it. I wouldn't worry about 40k mileage at all. Lexus cars are very robust and seem to be well looked after, at least the four I bought second-hand had been.
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On 8/20/2023 at 9:51 PM, JamesIS220 said:
Scrapped the Lexus for £350 and bought a 2015 Toyota Auris Hybrid estate. Owned for around 3 years. My best car.
Had one of those as a courtesy car from the local Toyota/Lexus body shop once. Really liked it.
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On 8/21/2023 at 12:33 PM, John Adams said:
Interestingly, I've done a couple of longish trips on the Motorway at a steady 60mph (I don't drive fast these days) in econ and with the ac on as and when needed. I'm getting 2.9m/kwh which is around 185miles. I haven't had a problem charging on the motorway -yet. However, for the last couple of weeks I have been driving locally on 30/40mph roads and I am struggling to get above 3m/kwh for some reason . I know the forthcoming software update will increase the range as they are reducing the buffer.
I took a look at an RZ at my local dealers this week. The cabin looks a very nice space to be and wasn't as busy with buttons as I'd feared. The car is huge and not exactly aerodynamic at the front so I can see why efficency isn't great. For those looking for a big, comfortable, well built EV it looks a good option, just one that you'll need to charge more often. I suppose that's not so bad though as you should be stopping every couple of hours anyway and 180 miles is easily 3 hours driving. It was a useful visit: it's definitely not the car for me. For one thing it wouldn't fit in my garage. Just need an IS or NX sized EV...
Oh and the whole needing to buy a charger thing sat easier in my brain as I thought of it as a home improvement that will last across other cars in the future. Plus we needed our garage rewiring anyway so combined it with that.
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1 hour ago, talaipwros said:
Happy with the overall quality so far?
1 hour ago, cruisermark said:We have an S90 in the family - Tesla have nailed it with the technology and software - unfortunatley they can't make cars - really lacking in build quality and looks - also BIG depreciation within a year!
Answering both... Quality used to be hit and miss when the UK cars were produced in the US (up to end 2020). Sadly mine was a miss. There were quite a few cosmetic issues that needed sorting while other people had no problems with theirs. Apart from that its been solid, no problems. The chinese built ones had early issues (end 2020 / early 2021) after that quality seems to have improved a lot. Problems that do get mentioned on the forums tend to relate to design defects in the earlier models, the S and X. One plus with Tesla is that they're always improving the build process and components. A down-side of that is occasional stupid decisions to reinvent the wheel when a wheel worked fine, eg a yoke for steering on the latest S/X and ditching parking sensors in favour of obstacle detection using the cameras when parking sensor supply was a problem.
Looks are subjective. I love the external looks. The minimalist interior suits my autistic brain: I find it calming. Overall I love the car despite the early problems.
Depreciation has been random. Early on mine held its value well. After two years I could have sold it for close to what I paid as Tesla couldn't make new ones fast enough for the massive demand. Then the price of new ones was reduced, electric prices shot up and 3 year old lease/PCP cars hit the used market: then depreciation was big. Tesla new pricing is fairly random going up and down depending on demand. A plus is you can get a used Telsa for cheap money these days and you'll get a fast car and access to the supercharger network.
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3 years ago my NX's PCP was up and I felt it was long overdue to move to full EV. Sadly Lexus had no EV so I bought a Tesla 3LR (good efficiency, 300 mile range, 250kw charging so can charge to 80% in 20 mins, 0-60 in 3.7 sec with acceleration boost option, OTA updates, one pedal driving, loads of boot space). I'm waiting for Lexus to produce a good EV that's not ridculously expensive, ideally an IS-sized saloon or NX-sized SUV that matches or beats the spec of my three year old Tesla.
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1 hour ago, PaulWhitt20 said:
I was quoted (and accepted) £844 for two major and one Int and one MOT on a UX300e which has cheaper servicing but this fits the figures from Lexus web site link above.
That sounds expensive for an EV given that there's not much in terms of mechanicals, fluids, filters etc. Mine had brake check and cabin filter change at 2 years which was about £70. What's the interval?
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Is there an app that will help with that?
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On 7/31/2023 at 9:46 PM, PaulWhitt20 said:
Hi
Sorry if this has been covered before.What miles per KWh are we getting in our UX300e.
Mine was showing 2.9 when I got it but the sales team who drove it before drove it like they stole it.
Now I am getting 3.8 to 4.0. Can anyone beat that….Does anyone take any notice of the EV coaching score?
Thanks
Paul
You're doing well considering its an SUV and not a dedicated EV platform. The RZ owners will be envious!
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I had one for a few years. Loved it. Very comfortable, fast, practial with the boot size and fitted in my garage which the larger newer RX wouldn't.
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Welcome to the world of modern cars 🙂 Is that dark green? Looks nice.
Before you buy an EV!!!
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The Kia e-Niro I test drove was very nice. Better than my NX. And the EV6 might be my next car if Lexus haven't got their act together on EVs by then.