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LEXUS LS 430 MH05AEJ It also had a private plate H11 LOK

Does anyone know this car?. It has Lexus Manchester plates on it. It's in my local car auction tomorrow(Friday 25th). I had a quick look at it yesterday and will go to view the service history today.

Good Points. Doesn't look molested at all. Very nice Blue body and very very nice clean biege trim. 100k with 9 stamps (not sure if its all Lexus, will find out later). Cold A/C. Very clean engine oil.

Bad Points. Steering tele motors NOT working properly, only slight movement both ways. Air bag light on. AFS OFF light on, some thing to do with swiveling headlamps? but didn't see an on/off button. Would these two lights fail the MOT. No cam belt sticker under the bonnet. The S/N lights up with radio etc but I cant get any sound from it. Wheels very scabby and not much life left on the premium tyres fitted. I like the fact that its got premium tyres on at its age and mileage. Pity they're 18" as I have an excellent set of 17" alloys and tyres. I couldn't drive it but had it running and moved it to and fro a couple of yards all nice and quiet and smooth.

Any thoughts on the air bag light, no sound from the audio and AFS OFF light.

Tele motors £60-80 used. Cambelt, pump and idler £300-400. Wheels £50 each to refurb.

If it goes for £3000 hammer price there's £346 commission on top.

So......too many bad points or will a decent price make it worth while??

I'm off up to the auction now to see the S/H.

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there's a good reason why it's in the auction ............... maybe someone's problem child !!

Who's putting it in would be a useful pointer, if it's a dealer/trader then the car's maybe a " dog " and uneconomic to sort out.

If it's a decd estate then maybe that's ok, BUT the prices needs to reflect at least £2k for the new owner to put into it, assuming that the air suspension is all ok and doesn't require sorting

Malc

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As you describe it it may be that a dealer is selling because they neither have the ability to fix the problems on what may be a too sophisticated motor for them or they've made their profit on the motor it was used to purchase and just want rid

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I've had look at it this morning and the usual stone chippings for this mileage to the front end but overall pretty good.

9 Lexus service stamps, Manchester x 4, and Newcastle x 5. I rang Newcastle and its NOT had a belt change, 10yrs or 100,000 mls he said. They didn't have anything in their notes about the radio not working, but immediately said "new tele motors" when I mentioned it.

They traded it to a "specialist", I dont know any specialists up here and my initial thoughts are he's found the problems and had second thoughts. Cut his losses and let somebody else sort it.............."ME" maybe. I think £2000 max. including commission on the hammer price

My thoughts on buying an LS430 are......£1500ish for an LPG conversion, £2000 in the back of the book to cover the cost of, if and when, the suspension packs up and it wont fit in my garage.

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and on this specific one; £500 tyres, £250 wheel refurb, £500 cambelt etc change, £250 general service + new MOT........... tele steering prob say £250 min. and then the rest of the issues !!!!!

You will easily eat up £2k.

It's possibly worth £1500 from the auction

No other dealer / trader will be wanting it methinks.

If you really want this one and it doesn't sell at auction then the trader WILL want rid and be happy I would think to sell it to you afterwards.

Malc

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Thanks for the replies. It's round about what I was thinking. They're all the things I've spotted but as you say its what crops up during early usage. Recently high lighted on here is the g/box oil cooler leaking causing some problems ( problems??? total failure!!). This would have to be factored in and an external cooler fitted. Make that figure £2500

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I know that this information is of little real use, but Lexus Manchester had the car for sale in November 2008:

Model Lexus LS 430 4.3 4-Door Saloon

Registration MH05AEJ

Date Aug 2005 (05)
Mileage 28,450

Colour Canterbury Blue

Interior cream rutland leather

Transmission Automatic

Fuel Petrol

Price £18,995

: o )

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ABS light may be due to the driver's seat being moved as they tend to be adjusted and then left in that position by the owner, several years later when the car is sold on the seat is moved and that is where the connections under the seat give problems.

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I've been told any dash light that isn't supposed to be on is an MOT failure now. MOT due 17 Nov 2014

This has been in for a while now.

The MOT also has to see the lights light up so no good trying to blank them out. Mike

This is also true, so no trying the sticky tape route or dis-connecting anything..

Me personally, i would hope it don't sell at the auction, then find the seller, if they look a bit fed up, stick a grand in cash under their nose and say gimme the lexus, no questions and i'll take her home

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I've been told any dash light that isn't supposed to be on is an MOT failure now. MOT due 17 Nov 2014

This has been in for a while now.

The MOT also has to see the lights light up so no good trying to blank them out. Mike

This is also true, so no trying the sticky tape route or dis-connecting anything..

Me personally, i would hope it don't sell at the auction, then find the seller, if they look a bit fed up, stick a grand in cash under their nose and say gimme the lexus, no questions and i'll take her home

I like your style you hard hitting dealer. Mike

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I've been told any dash light that isn't supposed to be on is an MOT failure now. MOT due 17 Nov 2014

This has been in for a while now.

The MOT also has to see the lights light up so no good trying to blank them out. Mike

This is also true, so no trying the sticky tape route or dis-connecting anything..

Me personally, i would hope it don't sell at the auction, then find the seller, if they look a bit fed up, stick a grand in cash under their nose and say gimme the lexus, no questions and i'll take her home

I like your style you hard hitting dealer. Mike

Only way to be with dealers, they would not think twice to do it to you.

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Apologies for late update but ongoing TalkTalk problems. I think it may be time to change to BT Infinity....out of the pot into ....?

I didn't go to Fridays auction as I decided against the 430, just too much to do whatever the selling price. I think its sold as its not on their web page anymore. We'll see if it turns up with a local trader (spares or repair).

Thanks for all your input, always interesting and knowledgeable

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Apologies for late update but ongoing TalkTalk problems. I think it may be time to change to BT Infinity....out of the pot into ....?

BT have their share of unhappy customers but compared to TalkTalk they are so far ahead they are out of sight. Don't waste anytime moving.

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