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Recently i bought a 2008 rx400h (my first lexus) and its a bit noisy inside the cabin. The dealer pointed out its due to budget tyres fitted at the front.

Currently it has a 235/55/R18 Radar brand budget tyres at the fronts and rears Bridgestone patenza.

I intend to change all 4 tyres, to either michelin cross climate suv XL or michelin Primacy 4.

I was wondering if the XL would be any better compared to Primacy 4 not an XL.

I've read somewhere that a XL tyre is usually a bit noisy.

Anybody can recommend me tyres or their experience with cross climate suv XL.

The Michelin latitude tour also another tyre i am considering due to its lower noise db rating

Thanks

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We have just changed our tyres on out rx300 same size tyre we changed from oem bridgstones to avon zx7 just under £100 a corner and very good noise rating and what a transformation it has been very quite and the car sticks to the road now.
My only concern is they are A rated in the wet so may wear quickly only time will tell.

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Yes those tyres are very well rated, read positive reviews about them, its just I've never had them on any of my previous cars so not too sure about the ride quality, comfort and noise levels. Will definitely look into these.

Only had Michelin and Bridgestone on my previous car which was a Qashqai. 

Am leaning towards the cross climate for my rx400h after reading many positive reviews, but am just waiting to hear what other members experience is with cross climate if they had them on

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I had Crossclimate+ XLs on both my Volvo V70 and my Nissan Leaf (and if ever there was a car where tyre roar was critical, that was it). 

In both cases they rode very nicely (softer than Pirelli P7 Cinturato Blue, itself a pretty comfy tyre), and supremely quiet inside the cabin. 

I would have absolutely no hesitation in buying them again. 

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Thanks i-s, replacing all my tires with cross climate soon.

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I don't think you will be disappointed with them. Keep an eye out for the Michelin preloaded debit card offer. I have saved £200 on my last 2,sets of tyres. Offer usually around October if you can wait. 

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I am just about ready for a new set of tyres. I had some Yokohama tyres but they wore quickly and were screaming on cornering. I am not a boy racer and object to leaving tyre rubber on the road! so I shouldn't be accused of heavy fast cornering.  I have used Enduro HT as well but although they performed OK some say I am taking a chance using them on an RX300!

In a past life I had BFG A/T'S ON early Range Rovers and a later P38 RR. always had great mileage from them 40-42k every time, never got stuck in the mud and they were very quiet..

I was pleased to learn that the BFG A/T is now available for the RX300 (early one), I just hope that there is not going to be a conflict with the Limited Slip Differential used for the four wheel drive if I have real grippers all round.

Am I worrying un-necessarily?

Out if interest will the ABS kick in on odd pattern/age/ware tyres on the front? I keep getting that ABS judder in normal conditions.

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12 hours ago, olliesgrandad said:

I don't think you will be disappointed with them. Keep an eye out for the Michelin preloaded debit card offer. I have saved £200 on my last 2,sets of tyres. Offer usually around October if you can wait. 

Thanks for the heads up, wasn't aware of this offer, but unfortunately i cant wait this long as i  bought the car recently and those front budgets tyres are really ruining my whole ride experience due to excess cabin noise.

 

Edit

What psi would be recommended for these cross climate xl tyres. Its a 235/55/R18 v104

I prefer comfort over mpg

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Recently fitted the CrossClimates and very happy with the lack of road noise. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

It always slays me that people will borrow a fortune to acquire a car loaded with thousands of pounds of safety equipment, then whack four budget tyres on and hope for the best.

 

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2 hours ago, shahed26 said:

 

What psi would be recommended for these cross climate xl tyres. Its a 235/55/R18 v104

I prefer comfort over mpg

I run mine at 2.5 bar when stone cold. Equates in current weather to 2.7 bar when warmed up. 

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Cross climates on both our cars, most impressed by the lack of road noise, but also a good all round tyre.  I had primacy's on my last car and there were good, but terrible in snow.

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3 hours ago, darrude said:

Cross climates on both our cars, most impressed by the lack of road noise, but also a good all round tyre.  I had primacy's on my last car and there were good, but terrible in snow.

I had Primacy 4's on my 2015 GS 300h and was very impressed with them in the snow. 

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14 hours ago, olliesgrandad said:

I had Primacy 4's on my 2015 GS 300h and was very impressed with them in the snow. 

To be honest mine were primacy 3's, so that could be a difference.... At the time I lived in a converted mill that sat in a little dip, everyone's cars was stuck and everyone was helping push out.  I couldn't even get it out of the flat car park, and few people in disbelief had a go, and were like... Yep that cars s**t in the snow!  Mazda 3.  Switched to all season after that and it was fine, but wouldn't do traditional all season again, they were terrible in the rain.

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I got the Primacy 4's on the advice of my local tyre centre Chris Mullins in Gloucester. 

I think they had only recently been launched at that time. 

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Just a quick update, got my car fitted with 4 new michelin cross climate today. Car feels so much grippier and smooth. Definitely it has made my cabin noise less. Running them fronts 34psi and rears 36psi. 

But still road noise is there when driving 40mph and above. Found the front passenger rubber in  the lower frame has a small crack/tear, guess that is whats causing excess road noise. Going to get them replaced with new ones by lexus. Hopefully that should cure the cabin noise.

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Just a quick one for anyone looking for a good "budget tyre" option, I am currently running my Lexus RX300 on 235/55R18 Jinyu YS82's and to say I've been impressed is an understatement!

Anyone who knows the Isle of Man, knows the mountain section of the TT course and also knows we have no speed restrictions on this stretch of road. A couple of weeks before TT this year I managed Ramsey hairpin to Creg Ny Baa in just under 6mins 30secs.

I pushed the car and the Jinyu tyres right to their limits and couldn't believe the grip levels!!

They're not only good for grip but also very quiet and are wearing very slowly and evenly.

Don't get me wrong, there are many better tyres out there but if you are working on a serious budget, you really won't go wrong with Jinyu.a7e369e8a7b4886a888def58f1a6abce.jpg

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On 7/18/2019 at 7:12 AM, olliesgrandad said:

I don't think you will be disappointed with them. Keep an eye out for the Michelin preloaded debit card offer. I have saved £200 on my last 2,sets of tyres. Offer usually around October if you can wait. 

Les, four new Cross Climates for me in October would be perfect. Can you tell us any more about the Michelin offer, which garage did you buy from?

Just phoned a local Michelin agent and they, 'nevererdofit, mate'.

That sort of saving would really be worth while.

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I've just had 4 new Cross Climates fitted to my car ( as part of my annual service and MOT ).

Had to have a bit of welding done to. Well, it is 16 years old now...

The tyres feel great! A real bonus. Feel ready for the winter now!

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Well, when I bought my RX 300 it had a mixture of tyres on it, one of which was over 8 years old and was probably the spare at some time in it's life judging by the state of the rim so as I was a bit tight budget wise, I spoke to my "tyre guy". He mostly does motorcycle tyres but he knows others in the trade.

I wanted reasonable quality, good wet weather, a make I have heard of (not a chinese "Hooflungdung" special) and didn't really care about wear as I would be going onto 4 season Goodyear Vector's for the winter months anyway. The Goodyear Vector 4 season Mk1's worked very well on my AWD centre locking diff Jaguar X type, so the next gen version should be even better on something with a bit more ground clearance  as I kept rubbing the undertray in the X type, never got stuck, but left some interesting furrows behind me.

He suggested these things:

https://tirereviewsandmore.com/nexen-cp521-reviews/

Have to say, they aren't the quietest tyres in the world, but the recent monsoon conditions on the M25 didn't phase them at all. And they were cheap, under £300 for all four fitted. I know they are basically light truck tyres, but I kind of like tyres to have stiff side walls anyway. They don't squeal anywhere as much as I expected them to, they are quite soft on the tread though. I won't be taking it off road unless I fall asleep at the wheel and dive into a field.

I've done over 5,000 miles on them, mostly motorway driving and the noise on the concrete bit of the M25 between the A3 junction and the M3 has to be heard to be believed..they have lost just over 1mm of tread depth. So they should last me until October when the winter rubber gets installed.

Might get someone out of a jam if they really are skint.

But I completely don't understand the thinking behind someone buying an expensive car and putting chinese ditch finders on it. Madness. My usual choice is Dunlop or Goodyear.

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