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Well I must say that just scanning the highlights my gast has well and truly been flabbered. Lexus UX 1st place with 4 stars and BMW X2 2nd place with 3.5 stars. But then again, did I not read something about the BMW being a mix with another manufacturer.

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5 hours ago, C Mclean said:

Well I must say that just scanning the highlights my gast has well and truly been flabbered. Lexus UX 1st place with 4 stars and BMW X2 2nd place with 3.5 stars. But then again, did I not read something about the BMW being a mix with another manufacturer.

I can't find the review on the AutoExpress website. Is there a link or was this in the hard copy edition only?

The new CarWow review really irritated me. Yet again we have the 'floor the throttle and listen to the drone' lazy journalism. I've owned Lexus eCVT cars for over two years and have NEVER had to accelerate like that. Surely done for effect - which is just an example of poor journalistic standards. Mind you, I consider myself to be a civilised driver...you know, obey speed limits, read the road, don't drive like a plonker. Maybe I'm the one who is wrong?!

CarWow Lexus UX

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Looks as though it’s only in the paper copy so far.

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After watching most of CarWow's Lexus reviews, I can confidently say he's very biased toward German brands and does not like CVT hybrids. I also saw the UX review and was equally irritated. He always focuses on the CVT drone when flooring the throttle, yet this is something you rarely ever do, and something he rarely does when reviewing non hybrids. It truly is irritating to see such blatant biased journalism. He also went on to say the UX was not fun to drive, yet most other reviews state that the driving experience is one of its best qualities, and one of the best CVTs around. Also, Mr.Watson clearly has no idea how to best drive a hybrid, as his quick and dirty fuel economy tests always fall short by about 10mpg average that I've been able to achieve in our Lexus hybrids. 

Rant aside, the UX definitely has problems, poor boot space and rear leg room, and the crappy infotainment system that God only knows why Lexus continue to pursue. However, despite all this I believe it's still a good car, very advanced propulsion system, great fuel economy and quite fun to drive. 

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The problem is that its propulsion system isn't advanced enough. It's very much in a similar price bracket to the kia e-niro which is much more advanced, significantly faster, way more refined and is more practical in terms of cabin space and boot space. Yes, you'd hope and expect that the Lexus is better built and with higher quality materials, but given the warranty on the Kia it's not likely to prove problematic.

The rumoured UX300e can not come fast enough. 

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It's a bit unfair to compare a ICE hybrid to a pure EV as EVs right now do have serious draw backs with regards to range, charge times and infrastructure, they are very different class of car. What I meant to say was that for an ICE hybrid, the UX is quite advanced in terms of fuel economy and performance and has one of the most efficient naturally aspirated engines at 40% thermal efficiency. 

I do completely agree with you though on the topic of Lexus being way too late to market with an EV, this has been a huge mistake by Lexus, just too slow to change! I understand the Toyota/Lexus argument that they are doing more for emmisions by selling millions of hybrids over tens of thousands of pure EVs (simply not enough batteries to go around). However, they should by now at least provide the option of a few EVs, even if supply is limited. It would keep them current and competitive, and show they are still a market leader. If they keep up their stubborn stance on EVs, then Toyota/Lexus could be seriously left behind in a few years and hurting dearly as a brand...

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13 hours ago, LordByronUK said:

It's a bit unfair to compare a ICE hybrid to a pure EV as EVs right now do have serious draw backs with regards to range, charge times and infrastructure, they are very different class of car. What I meant to say was that for an ICE hybrid, the UX is quite advanced in terms of fuel economy and performance and has one of the most efficient naturally aspirated engines at 40% thermal efficiency. 

I do completely agree with you though on the topic of Lexus being way too late to market with an EV, this has been a huge mistake by Lexus, just too slow to change! I understand the Toyota/Lexus argument that they are doing more for emmisions by selling millions of hybrids over tens of thousands of pure EVs (simply not enough batteries to go around). However, they should by now at least provide the option of a few EVs, even if supply is limited. It would keep them current and competitive, and show they are still a market leader. If they keep up their stubborn stance on EVs, then Toyota/Lexus could be seriously left behind in a few years and hurting dearly as a brand...

You do realise that Lexus tend to test their vehicles more than any other manufacturer for reliability right? Its not a case of lets build it and hope it does OK, then we'll sort it out later if anything goes wrong. 

Look at the Audi e-tron - already having issues, clearly shows not much testing was done before it was released.

I believe Lexus test their vehicles over 1 million miles before they're released.

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Yes this is true, and it's exactly why I'm on my third Lexus. No one can argue build quality and reliability, and that's another reason Lexus cars cost what they do. I also understand that Lexus and Toyota have an aversion to lithium ion batteries, for the very reason of longevity and reliability issues, and I do kinda agree on this stance. Better to skip lithium ion altogether and hold tight for solid state. 

However, with all that said, some of my frustrations still stand. Lexus could offer more alternatives (more engine choices in the UK, even an NX plugin would be nice) and also listen to their critics/customers a bit more. Their infotainment systems are simply not good enough, and it irritates me that they're willing to pump loads of money into things like hover boards and yachts, yet can't make big improvements to their infotainment software/interface, very frustrating... No apple car play or Android auto yet in the UK, I mean seriously come on!!

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18 minutes ago, LordByronUK said:

Yes this is true, and it's exactly why I'm on my third Lexus. No one can argue build quality and reliability, and that's another reason Lexus cars cost what they do. I also understand that Lexus and Toyota have an aversion to lithium ion batteries, for the very reason of longevity and reliability issues, and I do kinda agree on this stance. Better to skip lithium ion altogether and hold tight for solid state. 

However, with all that said, some of my frustrations still stand. Lexus could offer more alternatives (more engine choices in the UK, even an NX plugin would be nice) and also listen to their critics/customers a bit more. Their infotainment systems are simply not good enough, and it irritates me that they're willing to pump loads of money into things like hover boards and yachts, yet can't make big improvements to their infotainment software/interface, very frustrating... No apple car play or Android auto yet in the UK, I mean seriously come on!!

Some of this information is quite outdated. 

apple carplay and Android auto are now available on the facelifted RX and is expected to roll out across the range. This was due to eu licensing issues. 

All new models will be going back to touchscreens with the availability of the touch pad. I suspect eventually the touch pad will be removed entirely. 

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