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Had one yesterday while my wife's RX was in for a service - fancied seeing how it compared to my IS300h. Nice car, nippy and pretty economical ( I averaged 46mpg) and obviously more of an updated interior than my IS. Fine for me size wise even at 6ft 4 but obviously limits the rear legroom which would be an issue taking my son and his pals to rugby. I knew the boot would be small and I wasn't disappointed! Not sure I'll be buying one just yet but wouldn't rule it out in the future.

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My only issue with the UX, like you having had one as a loan car, is the price. In order to get AWD and a decent spec it goes over the £40k threshold. When compared with the equivalent (albeit non-hybrid) Mazda offering - to name but one example - it just doesn't seem like good value. Indeed, last time I was at Lexus Swindon, the NX in the showroom was cheaper than the UX next to it!

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Totally agree - they had a few used NXs for sale and they looked lovely but the UX still seems more on trend or 'urban' as the receptionist at the dealership described it. Must say I'm not too bothered about either of those things but if it was my money and I was looking at SUV stuff I'd probably veer more towards or a CRV or RAV 4 or even a CHR which I believe has the same engine now as the Ux but I'm sure will be better value for money and a bit more practical too.

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On 2/2/2020 at 9:16 AM, First_Lexus said:

My only issue with the UX, like you having had one as a loan car, is the price. In order to get AWD and a decent spec it goes over the £40k threshold. 

This was discussed when the UX pricing was first announced. Lexus replied that all models of the UX qualified for the lower VED. I couldn't see it myself as I can add up.

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I also had one recently as a courtesy car when my RX went in for service. Was pretty pleased with it, handled better than i thought it would whilst retaining a lot of comfort. 

I think people are getting hung up too much on the £40k list price.

Pretty much all cars are on lease nowadays and its built into the monthly payments. Additionally, the competition are similiarly priced anyway 

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3 hours ago, rayaans said:

I also had one recently as a courtesy car when my RX went in for service. Was pretty pleased with it, handled better than i thought it would whilst retaining a lot of comfort. 

I think people are getting hung up too much on the £40k list price.

Pretty much all cars are on lease nowadays and its built into the monthly payments. Additionally, the competition are similiarly priced anyway 

As far as I can see, in 2017 over 80% of new cars were bought on PCP deals where the road tax is an issue, although I agree buyers should build this in to their calculations. The number of cars bought on PCPs may have dropped slightly - I can't find accurate figures at this point - but I don't think it isn't true to say that "pretty much all cars" are bought on lease, unless you include PCPs.

As for the competition, a comparable sized and better specified Mazda with AWD can be bought for £35k before discounts. 

I really liked the UX (apart from the plasticky door trims) but can't get my head around paying over £40k when my NX Luxury was only £37k list.

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3 hours ago, First_Lexus said:

As for the competition, a comparable sized and better specified Mazda with AWD can be bought for £35k before discounts.

Lexus doesn't compete with Mazda, certainly not in their eyes. The Toyota C-HR is more of a direct comparison.

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When I made my recent purchase of a UX Takumi I looked at an NX Takumi. The NX didn't give much change from £49k pre discount when paint and delivery were added in.

I liked the NX but it was just too big for my purposes. The UX is perfect for me and I just love the vehicle - my first Lexus.

I have learned from a past mistake that getting a vehicle that fits needs can be more important than price. I had a Mazda CX5 and felt it was a fantastic vehicle but because of it's size and my needs I had to fit myself to the car whereas the UX fits around me.

When reading/viewing reviews of the UX common complaints were infotainment interaction, cramped rear space and small boot. I find the infotainment system just fine, don't carry rear passengers and never have large loads to carry/tow so I'm left to enjoy all the good points of the car. However, if a more practical family car is required the NX would look great - apart from it's cost when compared to a CX5.

Before looking at the UX I looked at the Audi Q2 and Q3, BMW X1, and Volvo XC40. Once all the bells and whistles are added the price of the UX seemed to be in the same ballpark so it came down to preference.

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On 2/7/2020 at 5:37 PM, First_Lexus said:

As far as I can see, in 2017 over 80% of new cars were bought on PCP deals where the road tax is an issue, although I agree buyers should build this in to their calculations. The number of cars bought on PCPs may have dropped slightly - I can't find accurate figures at this point - but I don't think it isn't true to say that "pretty much all cars" are bought on lease, unless you include PCPs.

As for the competition, a comparable sized and better specified Mazda with AWD can be bought for £35k before discounts. 

I really liked the UX (apart from the plasticky door trims) but can't get my head around paying over £40k when my NX Luxury was only £37k list.

On most deals they appear to be built into the monthly payments though

For example the NX300h F-Sport Takumi Pack/Panroof deal is £4263 + 47 x 453.70 inc vat. Road tax is fully included. 

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18 hours ago, rayaans said:

On most deals they appear to be built into the monthly payments though

For example the NX300h F-Sport Takumi Pack/Panroof deal is £4263 + 47 x 453.70 inc vat. Road tax is fully included. 

^^ I guess so, although when it needs to be taxed over the first three years the bill will still be a shock and will need to be paid by the owner.

As much as I love my NX, I do wonder whether the price premium for a Lexus - or any premium brand - is really worth it over (say) a Mazda or even a Suzuki Vitara. After discounts, a top spec 1.4 AWD Vitara is only £21k, and should be pretty reliable even if it doesn't have the solid feel of a Lexus. That's almost half the price of the UX Takumi!

It won't make much difference to me as I'm planning to keep my NX for a number of years. It's all about priorities.

 

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42 minutes ago, First_Lexus said:

^^ I guess so, although when it needs to be taxed over the first three years the bill will still be a shock and will need to be paid by the owner.

As much as I love my NX, I do wonder whether the price premium for a Lexus - or any premium brand - is really worth it over (say) a Mazda or even a Suzuki Vitara. After discounts, a top spec 1.4 AWD Vitara is only £21k, and should be pretty reliable even if it doesn't have the solid feel of a Lexus. That's almost half the price of the UX Takumi!

It won't make much difference to me as I'm planning to keep my NX for a number of years. It's all about priorities.

 

Road tax will be in the 5th year on that particular plan so will be £450. From year 6 that will no longer apply and itll pay the £140 or however much the standard rate is.

I suppose you could say that for anything though. Is £120 on a bottle of Aventus Creed worth it compared to another fragrance at £40-50? 

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Sorry @rayaansI mis-understood your figures. Have just realised they were for lease rather than PCP, hence tax included in the price.

Yes, you're right - it is about priorities. Most people have to make choices based on income and/or wealth. It's a bit like people who say they can't afford the dentist but then choose to pay for SKY TV or foreign holidays! Personally I'd never wear any sort of fragrance or jewellery, but do like eating at nice restaurants. Everybody is different.

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The issue for me is that the list price bears no resemblance to what the car is actually worth .

Its inflated to cater for those buying on finance who only really care about the monthly payments. 

My car was 3 months old, had sat outside a dealer doing nothing and I paid £17K off list at £29K but still have the luxury tax for 5 years.

Regarding the UX, I chucked it into my carwow library last year and actually got an e mail from a dealer stating that Lexus were refusing to let UK dealers sell new vehicles at less than list.   

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On 2/9/2020 at 8:59 PM, doog442 said:

Regarding the UX, I chucked it into my carwow library last year and actually got an e mail from a dealer stating that Lexus were refusing to let UK dealers sell new vehicles at less than list.   

I’m pleased to report that that situation doesn’t exist any more.  I was offered over 8% off a UX from a large London dealer, as well as the £1,000 hybrid deposit contribution and 3.9% APR. 

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I too got a good deal on my UX. Carwow gave a mixed response - some dealers gave discount, some didn't.

I think the bigger issue with the UX is whether it suits your purpose. Room in the rear seats and boot is limited so it isn't geared towards the type of driver who may need something like an NX for adult passengers and holiday luggage for a family.

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Noted in the NX forum that I liked the UX, having had one as a loan car, but thought (as someone who prefers cash to PCP/lease) that it was poor VFM. However a quick look at the Audi configurator shows a Takumi-equivalent spec Q3 at around £44k. It may be that, for cash purchasers at least, this size of compact SUV from premium manufacturers just looks expensive compared with the next size up (in these cases NX or Q5).  You really have to want the compact format!

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