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My 2013 gs450h Premier is a fab car. So good that I am considering upgrading to the facelift. 

 
There are only 78 gs450h premier from 2016-18, with 1-3 available at any one time.
Facelift has more safety features: Traffic sign recognition, Adaptive cruise control/Pre-crash safety, Lane keep assist, Adaptive high beam, Rear cross traffic alert, LED headlamps.
Different seat trim, updated multimedia system and stiffened body with 'tuned' suspension steering and brakes, head up display.
 
I was wondering is there any perceptible difference in the way the facelift drives, or the multimedia system functions? I imagine the seats would be pretty much identical?
 

 

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I suspect they drive the same. As you so rightly say very rare in Premier spec. 

My pre face-lift Luxury was better equipped than the post face-lift cars. It had rear cross traffic alert and blind spot monitoring which was deleted on the later cars. If the Premier has ML I think it will be as the earlier version. My luxury had ML and premium navigation. Head up display is good if its the same colour version as my RX

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Back to back you may be able to tell a difference in the chassis stiffness going fast around bends or over potholes but wait a hour or two between drives and I'm not sure how much difference you could tell. As you have stated the facelift was mainly cosmetic and the added safety features. The nav systems are quite similar, maybe a little faster and allows full screen map which I don't think was possible pre-facelift on the 12.3" screen.

There are probably quite a lot of other tweaks that don't get mentioned in the brochures or press releases but all relatively minor.

HUD is a big plus as Les has mentioned. It is the colour one.

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Thank you for tour comments and advice. I agree, HUD is a big plus. I will wait and see what appears after lock-down. 

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It seems to me that Lexus (and toyota) tend to apply rolling updates to vehicles as they go, rather than saving up a chunk of stuff for facelift time. I've been watching a lot of youtube stuff lately, and they've applied rolling updates to Supra and LC500 as they've been going. I've seen instances of that with the GS as well. 

Our GS is a 2015 pre-facelift Premier, with all options (Sunroof, LED headlamps, PCS/ACC/LKA). There are noticeable differences to 2012/2013 GS that we test drove:

Ours has HUD. 
Ours has a newer nav system (identified by having the mSD card flap where the Mark Levinson logo is, and the right-hand screen panel having 3 tabs,  not 4), but not full-screen nav as per facelift (but uses the same map mSD card)
Subjectively (and would need to try back-to-back to be more certain) ours seems to ride a bit more smoothly than the 2012 cars (GS450h Premier, GS250 luxury) that we previously test drove (and this is in line with the suspension tweaking that has gone on with the LC500 - newer cars are a bit smoother than the first couple of years).

In other words, things like the stiffened body shell and tuned suspension may have occurred before the facelift, just as things like HUD and the new nav hardware did (although as I said, the pre-facelift still runs split-screen software). Don't necessarily limit yourself only to facelift cars if the ride and hud are your key features. 

No Pre-facelift got matrix adaptive beam headlamps (ours has active high beam and active turning(although the width of illumination they provide makes that totally irrelevant) but not matrix), full-screen nav or traffic sign recognition. 

For example, here's a later Pre-facelift with ACC/PCS/LKA, sunroof, HUD, etc: https://usedcars.lexus.co.uk/en/used-lexus/Lexus/Gs-Saloon/450h-35-Premier-With-ACCPCS-With-Sunroof-r1capjh but would need to see pictures to tell if it has the LED headlamps (description doesn't say) .

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11 hours ago, i-s said:

It seems to me that Lexus (and toyota) tend to apply rolling updates to vehicles as they go, rather than saving up a chunk of stuff for facelift time. I've been watching a lot of youtube stuff lately, and they've applied rolling updates to Supra and LC500 as they've been going. I've seen instances of that with the GS as well. 

Our GS is a 2015 pre-facelift Premier, with all options (Sunroof, LED headlamps, PCS/ACC/LKA). There are noticeable differences to 2012/2013 GS that we test drove:

Ours has HUD. 
Ours has a newer nav system (identified by having the mSD card flap where the Mark Levinson logo is, and the right-hand screen panel having 3 tabs,  not 4), but not full-screen nav as per facelift (but uses the same map mSD card)
Subjectively (and would need to try back-to-back to be more certain) ours seems to ride a bit more smoothly than the 2012 cars (GS450h Premier, GS250 luxury) that we previously test drove (and this is in line with the suspension tweaking that has gone on with the LC500 - newer cars are a bit smoother than the first couple of years).

In other words, things like the stiffened body shell and tuned suspension may have occurred before the facelift, just as things like HUD and the new nav hardware did (although as I said, the pre-facelift still runs split-screen software). Don't necessarily limit yourself only to facelift cars if the ride and hud are your key features. 

No Pre-facelift got matrix adaptive beam headlamps (ours has active high beam and active turning(although the width of illumination they provide makes that totally irrelevant) but not matrix), full-screen nav or traffic sign recognition. 

For example, here's a later Pre-facelift with ACC/PCS/LKA, sunroof, HUD, etc: https://usedcars.lexus.co.uk/en/used-lexus/Lexus/Gs-Saloon/450h-35-Premier-With-ACCPCS-With-Sunroof-r1capjh but would need to see pictures to tell if it has the LED headlamps (description doesn't say) .

I wasn’t aware that any facelift UK GS came with matrix headlights. I thought that the triple beam lights were just a full LED fixed unit. 

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Since these cars have GPS, what a shame that they use the ordinary speedo drive for the HUD speed display, rather than GPS. The analogue speedo and HUD read a couple of mph slow at 30 mph and no doubt similar inaccuracies higher speeds.

I have an aftermarket GPS HUD speedometer in my '92 MX-5. It is dead accurate - or at least reads exactly the same as other GPS devices (TomTom, phone etc) and roadside speed indicators. It's switchable between MPH and KPH as well. (As is the Lexus one, but still inaccurate)

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It's entirely possible that they didn't. I have seen video of matrix on a facelift GS, and made the possibly incorrect connection that facelift full LED = matrix. 
 

It's nothing like as fancy in terms of the number of matrix elements as Audi or Mercedes use, but it is there. However, it's possible that it's a european spec and not UK spec thing. I do not know. All I do know is that even the full-LED setup on pre-facelift cars doesn't have matrix functionality. 
 

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On 5/20/2020 at 12:45 PM, i-s said:

It seems to me that Lexus (and toyota) tend to apply rolling updates to vehicles as they go, rather than saving up a chunk of stuff for facelift time. I've been watching a lot of youtube stuff lately, and they've applied rolling updates to Supra and LC500 as they've been going. I've seen instances of that with the GS as well. 

Toyota (including Lexus badged vehicles) have many more changed on a facelift compared to the yearly tweaks. 

On 5/21/2020 at 9:20 AM, i-s said:

It's nothing like as fancy in terms of the number of matrix elements as Audi or Mercedes use, but it is there. However, it's possible that it's a european spec and not UK spec thing. I do not know. All I do know is that even the full-LED setup on pre-facelift cars doesn't have matrix functionality. 

It isn't a matrix, it is adaptive with shutters that are analogue and therefore more variable than a matrix system. It is fitted to UK face-lift F Sport, Premier and F models.

 

This blog post lists most of the face-lift changes.

https://blog.lexus.co.uk/the-new-2016-lexus-gs/

 

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Thank you @ColinBarber. Very informative as usual. 

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I would gladly update mine for a face lifted model, I checked the prices and at the moment it is too high, especially my GS does everything so well and has low (ish) mileage.

Motorbike is the first to be replaced. 🙂

But first of all, lets see where we all will be after Corona! Our company is laying people off, about 40-50% of staff is to go!!! 😞

 

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I got the same feeling that facelift models right now are too expensive to what extra they offer.

If I could buy 2014 for lets say 15k vs 2016 for 30k I don't see the value here. Yes millage will be lower on 2016 but 2014 won't be too hight either. 

I most probably will look for a replacement next year, if I'll be lucky some LS for under 40 will show up which would be a way better deal that face lift GS for 25 lets say.

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