Bazza 2 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 to all the peeps who know whats what: because i havent a clue ;) have pc have laptop both on xp home broadband on pc want to link the two (and possibly another pc but not essential) wirelessly so i can use internet on laptop wherever i am in the house whats best who much how easy remember i am not in IT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve ( West Mids ) 5 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Just been looking at similar. You need a wireless router, a pci wireless card for the desktop and a pc notebook wireless card for the laptop. At least this is what I was looking at. PC World have Belkin products for about £160 all-in. This would make both machines wireless which means you wouldn't need the desktop on to broadband on the laptop. Still have a couple of questions though: Does the modem / router need to plug into the laptop Can you use it to network the two pcs ( look at files on laptop on the desktop & vice-versa ). Does going wireless slow anything down? Think it quotes 54 mbps. I haven't gone broadband was looking at telewest cable 512k + 50% free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IS200SportMansfield 0 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Hiya You don't say what sort of Broadband you have got. If you have cable Broadband, you will simply need a basic NAT translating router with in-built wireless hub, and a wireless card for your laptop. Most hubs have support for 4 networked machines and then as many wireless conenctions as you want. Typical price about £100 If you have ADSL broadband you will need a router that contains an ADSL modem and a wireless card. Typical price about £140. The advantage of having a decent router, is that you will get hardware firewalls which will protect your machines from attack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 7, 2004 Author Share Posted May 7, 2004 HiyaYou don't say what sort of Broadband you have got. If you have cable Broadband, you will simply need a basic NAT translating router with in-built wireless hub, and a wireless card for your laptop. Most hubs have support for 4 networked machines and then as many wireless conenctions as you want. Typical price about £100 If you have ADSL broadband you will need a router that contains an ADSL modem and a wireless card. Typical price about £140. The advantage of having a decent router, is that you will get hardware firewalls which will protect your machines from attack. its the bt one connects to pc via usb has a little box with lights on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fargo 0 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 i got rid of xp home and went for xp pro, as it has better networking facitiltys. got a linksys ethernet/wirelss router. connected the modem to the router. router to the main pc via a cable, router to the second pc via wireless. this enabled all pcs to share the interenet xp pro detected the network automatically. i had to enable log on passwords on both machines to share files, home this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ColinBarber 1,924 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 I haven't gone broadband was looking at telewest cable 512k + 50% free. Sounds good B) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pobrown 84 Posted May 7, 2004 Share Posted May 7, 2004 Get yourself a wireless ADSL router (around £60-£100). This will plug into your BT line, and also connect to your PC via an Ethernet cable (you may need a network card adding to your PC, around £5-£10). Then you will need a wireless card for your laptop. An older, slower one will do (11Mbps) as your internet connection will only be 0.5Mbps (maybe 1Mbps). These can be obtained for around £20. I use this setup and it works a treat. I've also got a HP Jetdirect box that mean either my PC or Laptop can print to the laser printer. (the printer plugs into the JetDirect box, and this plugs into one of the network sockets on the router). I use the D-Link DSL-604+ ADSL Router, which you can buy mail order for about £70. It has just been replaced however with a new one (DSL-G604T) which I saw in PC World for £100. With the router up and running and using WinXP, your PC is connected to the internet as soon as it boots - no need to dial up etc. Also, the router can protect your PC/Laptop from worms/viruses etc. If you need anymore help, give me a shout. Cheers Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 8, 2004 Author Share Posted May 8, 2004 cool just ordered the router and card the one recommended by pobrown :) all in for £70 B) just need to wait for it to arrive then install it somehow think that that is when troubles will start cheers everyone another query : does a type 1 card reader work in a type 2 slot it fits in ok but doesnt show up !! ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveEllen 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Share Posted May 8, 2004 how do you switch your lapdog on ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 8, 2004 Author Share Posted May 8, 2004 how do you switch your lapdog on ? just a short tug on the lead :winky: btw . solved the card reader problem was a bit technical , but i managed it yes i turn the card up the right way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
amolkarnik 0 Posted May 10, 2004 Share Posted May 10, 2004 check www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk. lots of useful info there. The latest protocol for networking 802.11g is 5 times faster than the 802.11b. However for those using broadband there will be no difference in performance. the difference will is when you try to share files across PC's. It's worth spending the extra 20 quid on a 802.11g router. If your PC is sited next to the phone socket (which is where you would locate the router), you could save some money by not buying a wireless networking card for your PC. Instead use the onboard network card (or buy a new wired network card) and physically wire the PC to the router. Wireless network cards are about 30 quid. regular network cards are 7-8 quid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 ok got all the nesseccary equipment first stumbling block !! says connect modem to router one is usb (bt broadband box) one is an rj connector(router) it dont fit best solutions please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew_McNally 1 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I suspect you no longer need the modem. If you bought the DSL-G604T, then this includes an ADSL broadband modem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 says to connect modem and shows it the piccys says : "wan port this is for the connection of an ethernet cable to the cable or dsl modem" it is a dl-614+ router Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brettster 0 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Looks like you have the wrong router you can connect a lead from your PC's Lan port into the wireless routers dsl/cable port, but it would mean you have to have your main PC switched on for internet access to your lapdog (you would need internet connection sharing enabled on your desktop too) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew_McNally 1 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 If you have purchased the DI-614+ then I think you have bought the wrong product. this was not mentioned in pobrowns post. you probably wanted this one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 If you have purchased the DI-614+ then I think you have bought the wrong product.this was not mentioned in pobrowns post. you probably wanted this one youre probably right ooohhh what to do now ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew_McNally 1 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 ooohhh what to do now ? send it back, and hope they'll exchange it? where did you buy it from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 ooohhh what to do now ? send it back, and hope they'll exchange it? where did you buy it from? ebay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew_McNally 1 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 ooohhh what to do now ? send it back, and hope they'll exchange it? where did you buy it from? ebay ah. so the answer is "shell out more money for the kit you really needed" I'm afraid. you can look into using this to share your internet connection from the PC, but I wouldn't even consider that to be honest - thats not the way forward. Stick this one on ebay, and buy the one pobrown mentioned from a reputable site with a returns policy :P For what its worth - I just got all my SMC gear at nickknows.com - good prices, and great next day service. their Dlink page is here - the one I think you need is at the bottom of the page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 ah so i need one with a built in modem told you i didnt know a lot oh well, better order the right one this time DSL-G604T W/Less ADSL Modem with Free G650+ PC Card £92.82 inc VAT (£79.00 ex VAT) 32 in stock now 2645 estimated in stock 1-3 days from dabs.com can someone confirm this for me please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew_McNally 1 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 that sounds right mate - you should simply be able to plug your ADSL line into this router, and share your net connection that way. thats what you wanted isn;t it ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 that sounds right mate - you should simply be able to plug your ADSL line into this router, and share your net connection that way.thats what you wanted isn;t it ;) yes .....i think so i use lead from router to my telephone point ? the modem supplied by bt can be left out ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aido 45 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 What happens if you plug the USB modem into this router? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bazza 2 Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 What happens if you plug the USB modem into this router? ? which one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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