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Good evening all.

This is my first post to the forum and I am very pleased to join.

I have a long story to tell but will spare you all the fine details.

Basically I bought a damaged repaired is200 200se.

I am sure the car was owned by someone on here as it had a gold owners club sticker in the rear window . The reg no is gr03 vnz Black is200 se

Anyway I have spent a small fortune on getting this car back together and have relpaced a lot of parts. ££££

I have finally come to getting the car back on the road and am having some problems geting it driving straight. The car has been laser alligned and drove perfectly. A few miles after the allignment I noticed a knocking noise from the front n/s wheel. Basically the wheel nuts where loose. doh

I took it back after tightening the wheel nuts !!

The guy re alligned it all and I have a print out to say it is perfect but it pulls left !!!!

Am at my wits end as they say the car is straight and would not geo the way it does if ther was other problems, any ideas ????

Sorry its a long first one but you guys all seem on the case.

Steve

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unlikely, but have you checked tyre pressure?? big differences can cause veering in either direction.

what about suspension??? could a spring be fecked???

just a couple of ideas

Cheers for the rapid reply.

I have had the tyres checked and changed front to back, and no difference.

The suspension is all new on the front, and new o/s rear hub on the rear also had new subframe on the front and drop links and car has tte roll bars.

Thanks for your suggestions I have just had a look around and wonder if I should take a day out to see the Doctor ??

S

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unlikely, but have you checked tyre pressure?? big differences can cause veering in either direction.

what about suspension??? could a spring be fecked???

just a couple of ideas

Cheers for the rapid reply.

I have had the tyres checked and changed front to back, and no difference.

The suspension is all new on the front, and new o/s rear hub on the rear also had new subframe on the front and drop links and car has tte roll bars.

Thanks for your suggestions I have just had a look around and wonder if I should take a day out to see the Doctor ??

S

wouldn't be a bad idea. guess its a case of eliminating possibilities until its sorted.

hope you sort it out

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Welcome to the club :D

When you say it was "aligned" was it a FULL GEOMETRY check/adjustment?

As full as I know

Basically camber and toe.

Rear camber and toe adjusted

Front camber and toe adjusted.

However I am not sure if that is full geo ??

Thanks for the speedy replies this forum seems awsome

S

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unlikely, but have you checked tyre pressure?? big differences can cause veering in either direction.

what about suspension??? could a spring be fecked???

just a couple of ideas

Cheers for the rapid reply.

I have had the tyres checked and changed front to back, and no difference.

The suspension is all new on the front, and new o/s rear hub on the rear also had new subframe on the front and drop links and car has tte roll bars.

Thanks for your suggestions I have just had a look around and wonder if I should take a day out to see the Doctor ??

S

wouldn't be a bad idea. guess its a case of eliminating possibilities until its sorted.

hope you sort it out

How do I contact the Geo Doc ??

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unlikely, but have you checked tyre pressure?? big differences can cause veering in either direction.

what about suspension??? could a spring be fecked???

just a couple of ideas

Cheers for the rapid reply.

I have had the tyres checked and changed front to back, and no difference.

The suspension is all new on the front, and new o/s rear hub on the rear also had new subframe on the front and drop links and car has tte roll bars.

Thanks for your suggestions I have just had a look around and wonder if I should take a day out to see the Doctor ??

S

wouldn't be a bad idea. guess its a case of eliminating possibilities until its sorted.

hope you sort it out

How do I contact the Geo Doc ??

send him a pm: wheels-inmotion.co.uk

no doubt he'll be along either tonight or tomorrow and post in this thread. keep your eyes peeled. :D

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unlikely, but have you checked tyre pressure?? big differences can cause veering in either direction.

what about suspension??? could a spring be fecked???

just a couple of ideas

Cheers for the rapid reply.

I have had the tyres checked and changed front to back, and no difference.

The suspension is all new on the front, and new o/s rear hub on the rear also had new subframe on the front and drop links and car has tte roll bars.

Thanks for your suggestions I have just had a look around and wonder if I should take a day out to see the Doctor ??

S

wouldn't be a bad idea. guess its a case of eliminating possibilities until its sorted.

hope you sort it out

How do I contact the Geo Doc ??

send him a pm: wheels-inmotion.co.uk

no doubt he'll be along either tonight or tomorrow and post in this thread. keep your eyes peeled. :D

Cheers appreciate your help ;-)

S

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As full as I know

Basically camber and toe.

Rear camber and toe adjusted

Front camber and toe adjusted.

However I am not sure if that is full geo ??

Nope, that's not the full geo. Have a look at the good doctor's website. That should give you something to think about!

Best of luck with your new motor.

Si

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Welcome to the club.

I would contact him ASAP, call him at work (Tony Bones, STS Watford) on 01923 234666, know he is really busy between now and 17th when he goes on holiday.

Tell him you are LOC and I am sure that he will do what he can to fit you in.

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it sounds like the car had quite a big smash - is the car itself straight??

It did have quite alot of damage but mainly cosmetic.

The only running gear parts were rear hub and fron sub frame.

I have been back to the garage who did the allignment since and we have got it sorted. The car now drives absoloutley spot on and the print out is very close the target toes etc.

Front camber 0.24 (both)

Toe (0.03) Both

Backs are the good too.

And the culprit was a ben lower ball joint on the n/s.

The other thing that is worth mentioning is that the tale tale sign was the o/s wheel was sitting further back in the whel arch than the o/s which I am told made the KPI all wrong !!!

So there you go a new ball joint was all it was, bit annoying though as it was supposed to be new anyway, but the garage says it had not been put on correctly and tigtened enough.

I am not sure if the service they offer is full geo but even so they sorted my problem when even Lexus scratched there heads !!!

The garage is in Haywards Heath West Sussex

Elite garages 01444 417451 the guy who helped me is Phil.

Cheers for all your help on this

Steve

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it sounds like the car had quite a big smash - is the car itself straight??

It did have quite alot of damage but mainly cosmetic.

The only running gear parts were rear hub and fron sub frame.

I have been back to the garage who did the allignment since and we have got it sorted. The car now drives absoloutley spot on and the print out is very close the target toes etc.

Front camber 0.24 (both)

Toe (0.03) Both

Backs are the good too.

And the culprit was a ben lower ball joint on the n/s.

The other thing that is worth mentioning is that the tale tale sign was the o/s wheel was sitting further back in the whel arch than the o/s which I am told made the KPI all wrong !!!

So there you go a new ball joint was all it was, bit annoying though as it was supposed to be new anyway, but the garage says it had not been put on correctly and tigtened enough.

I am not sure if the service they offer is full geo but even so they sorted my problem when even Lexus scratched there heads !!!

The garage is in Haywards Heath West Sussex

Elite garages 01444 417451 the guy who helped me is Phil.

Cheers for all your help on this

Steve

Lesson leant here is.... if the report does not display Castor then it's not a full geometry..... if geo# 1 was full this thread would not exist! nor the truma.

The real reason for the pull was:

1: the bent swivel on the NSF 'Declined' the KPI and owned less of the vehicles weight.

2: the 'Twist' in the swivel lowered the Castor position and allowed the OSF Castor, now more dominant to pull the car left.

If anyone needs help in this area contact me..... advice is free... i don't bite you know!

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it sounds like the car had quite a big smash - is the car itself straight??

It did have quite alot of damage but mainly cosmetic.

The only running gear parts were rear hub and fron sub frame.

I have been back to the garage who did the allignment since and we have got it sorted. The car now drives absoloutley spot on and the print out is very close the target toes etc.

Front camber 0.24 (both)

Toe (0.03) Both

Backs are the good too.

And the culprit was a ben lower ball joint on the n/s.

The other thing that is worth mentioning is that the tale tale sign was the o/s wheel was sitting further back in the whel arch than the o/s which I am told made the KPI all wrong !!!

So there you go a new ball joint was all it was, bit annoying though as it was supposed to be new anyway, but the garage says it had not been put on correctly and tigtened enough.

I am not sure if the service they offer is full geo but even so they sorted my problem when even Lexus scratched there heads !!!

The garage is in Haywards Heath West Sussex

Elite garages 01444 417451 the guy who helped me is Phil.

Cheers for all your help on this

Steve

Lesson leant here is.... if the report does not display Castor then it's not a full geometry..... if geo# 1 was full this thread would not exist! nor the truma.

The real reason for the pull was:

1: the bent swivel on the NSF 'Declined' the KPI and owned less of the vehicles weight.

2: the 'Twist' in the swivel lowered the Castor position and allowed the OSF Castor, now more dominant to pull the car left.

If anyone needs help in this area contact me..... advice is free... i don't bite you know!

Lesson learnt for sure !!

I was going to contact you after the garage had tried on more time and on that attempt they found the cause.

Thanks for clarifying it in the way you have though much appreciated.

Will contact you as soon as I need it alligned next time. (hopefully not next week when the new tyres go on !!!!!!!!!)

Thanks to all

S

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it sounds like the car had quite a big smash - is the car itself straight??

It did have quite alot of damage but mainly cosmetic.

The only running gear parts were rear hub and fron sub frame.

I have been back to the garage who did the allignment since and we have got it sorted. The car now drives absoloutley spot on and the print out is very close the target toes etc.

Front camber 0.24 (both)

Toe (0.03) Both

Backs are the good too.

And the culprit was a ben lower ball joint on the n/s.

The other thing that is worth mentioning is that the tale tale sign was the o/s wheel was sitting further back in the whel arch than the o/s which I am told made the KPI all wrong !!!

So there you go a new ball joint was all it was, bit annoying though as it was supposed to be new anyway, but the garage says it had not been put on correctly and tigtened enough.

I am not sure if the service they offer is full geo but even so they sorted my problem when even Lexus scratched there heads !!!

The garage is in Haywards Heath West Sussex

Elite garages 01444 417451 the guy who helped me is Phil.

Cheers for all your help on this

Steve

Lesson leant here is.... if the report does not display Castor then it's not a full geometry..... if geo# 1 was full this thread would not exist! nor the truma.

The real reason for the pull was:

1: the bent swivel on the NSF 'Declined' the KPI and owned less of the vehicles weight.

2: the 'Twist' in the swivel lowered the Castor position and allowed the OSF Castor, now more dominant to pull the car left.

If anyone needs help in this area contact me..... advice is free... i don't bite you know!

Lesson learnt for sure !!

I was going to contact you after the garage had tried on more time and on that attempt they found the cause.

Thanks for clarifying it in the way you have though much appreciated.

Will contact you as soon as I need it alligned next time. (hopefully not next week when the new tyres go on !!!!!!!!!)

Thanks to all

S

After being very burnt do yourself one massive favour.. get a 'printout'.... I....WE.. can do wounders with that information!

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