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Hi all, we are in need of some advice.......

Earlier this year we looked at purchasing an Rx300/350, we visited our local Lexus dealer who was initially very helpful and told us of 2 vehicles which they had due in which would be in our price bracket. The salesman advised us that they would be available for viewing the following weekend. He contatced us during the week and we arranged a time to view............ we went at the time agreed to be told that neither of the vehicles had arrived, no apology no real reason BUT they did have a new vehicle we could test drive!!!!!! As we were there and so it was not a complete waste of time we agreed to go. Loved the car RX400h, WAAAYYY out of our price bracket though.

The salesman then said he did have an ex demonstrator which was coming up, again way past our budget, which he knew as he knew the vehicles we had originally wanted to see. When we explained this to him he seemed to lose ALL interest and basically made us feel small and not worthy of his time.

Anyway to cut an even longer story short we ended up buying an Audi A4 Avant, 07 reg, nice car, we do like it but are missing the higher ride position which we had in our previous car VW Touran. We both are wondering about the RX's again!

We have seen locally an 04 plate RX300 SEL Navigator, 65000 miles and an 06 plate RX300 LE (ICE PACK) 18000 miles, obviously there is a money

difference but could any of you offer any advice on the best way to jump........ should 65000 miles on an 04 plate concern us as this vehicle would need to last us a few years, it is not from a main dealer but does have FSH from a Lexus dealer.

Are there any gremlins we should look out for?

Thanks in advance

Confused of Yorkshire!!

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Welcome to the club.

I really wouldnt worry about the mileage, the engines will go on and on.

As long as the Services are upto date and everything checked when it should be (cam belt etc) then everything should be fine

Stav

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Welcome to LOC!

As the others have said, I wouldn't be too concerned about the mileage, if it's got full Lexus service history and it looks like a car that's been well looked after then there shouldn't be any problems.

However given the current climate and the way large engined 4x4 type cars are depreciating, I'd recommend going for the newest you can stretch to - older cars are holding their value much better so you're more likely to get a better deal on something newer :)

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Welcome to the club.

I really wouldnt worry about the mileage, the engines will go on and on.

As long as the Services are upto date and everything checked when it should be (cam belt etc) then everything should be fine

Stav

Thanks for that,

Could you tell me when the cambelt would be due?

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Word of advice.

It sounds like youre buying from a dealer and its should be OK. However, if youre buying private, bear this in mind that happened to me on SUnday...

Here's a copy of a mail I ended up selling Trading Standards...

Dear Ms *****, as discussed I went to look at the following:

Autotrader Ad: (Deleted for this post peeps ;) )

I cant remember his name. Little Asian guy - about 5ft2 tall so not hard to remember!

He said he needed to leave the country this week (tomorrow) so Id be quick!

BMW 2003(03) 330d SE. 87k 1 owner from new. Up for £4700. Said he'd take £4500 as he needs to money quick... Hmmmmm

The car itself is in good condition for the miles I think. Had a bit of paint on the rear tho, but Id done a Text CHeck on it and it came up clear so all good.

MOTs as such:

18/3/07: 73687

12/3/08: 80451

6/5/09: 87605

Service history (there are8 entries but Ill just give the later ones):

26/5/06: 53882

27/3/07: 64301

15/2/08: 74286

18/2/09: 85185

Now, look closely (like we did) and youll see an annomily(sp)!!! :eek:

MOTd 18/3/07 @ 73687. Serviced 27/3/07 @ 64301!!!

Serviced 15/2/08@ 74286. Motd 12/3/08 @ 80451!!!

Err, so not only has it LOST miles in the space of a month, the following year its done 650 odd miles in 11 mths and 6000 the follwoing mth:wack:

Needless to say, I walked away and thought I would call the reputable BMW franchise tomorrow (service shut on Sunday). In the mean time I went on the VOSA website and checked the car via its current MOT...

I advise ANYONE to use this in future!

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/internet/jsp/ECH...ory-Request.jsp

You will need the Reg and basically the log book / current MOT Cert number.

For this car (and I suggest you try this)

Reg: MA03 NYZ

Test Number: 571926829113

Have a look (copy and paste)

Or if you want - heres it copied and pasted and what they say about the car:

Originally Posted by VOSA WEBSITE

You asked for test history information for vehicle registration MA03NYZ. You provided test number 571926829113 to confirm that you had a legitimate interest in the vehicle. If you do not have a legitimate interest in the vehicle you must destroy the document. This information is correct at 17/05/2009.

There are no later tests for this Vehicle.

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Most Recent Vehicle Details and Test Summary applicable to this test number.

Registration mark: MA03NYZ

Make/Model: BMW / 330

Colour: SILVER

VIN/Chassis No: WBAER92080KE89989

Approximate date of first use: 27/03/2003

Type of fuel: Diesel

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Date of test: 06/05/2009

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 87,605 Miles

Test number: 571926829113

Test expiry date: 05/05/2010

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Full Test History, starting with first recorded vehicle and test results

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Registration mark: MA03NYZ

Make/Model: BMW / 330

Colour: SILVER

VIN/Chassis No: WBAER92080KE89989

Approximate date of first use: 27/03/2003

Type of fuel: Diesel

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Date of test: 28/03/2006

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 85,048 Miles

Test number: 590107586072

Test station name: DCK + L AUTOS

Test station number: V100523

Test station telephone number: 01246825960

Test class: IV

Test expiry date: 27/03/2007

Advisory Notice issued

Nearside Front Lower Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.3)

Offside Front Lower Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.3)

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Date of test: 23/03/2007

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 11,370 Miles

Test number: 683872687030

Test station name: BLUE BELL GARAGE

Test station number: 6441AM

Test station telephone number: 01625446615

Test class: IV

Test expiry date: 27/03/2008

Advisory Notice issued

Rear brake pads low.

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Date of test: 25/03/2008

Certificate issue refused (Fail)

Odometer reading: 140,932 Miles

Test number: 673195288001

Test station name: GROSVENOR MOT TEST CENTRE

Test station number: 40919

Test station telephone number: 01614806646

Test class: IV

Reason(s) for refusal to issue Certificate

Front Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)

Offside Rear Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.5c)

Nearside Front Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.3)

Offside Front Suspension arm has excessive play in a pin/bush (2.4.G.3)

Advisory Notice issued

Advise pad wear indicator on plenty of life left in pads.

Advise unable to fully inspect outer sills plastic skirts fitted.

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Date of test: 26/03/2008

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 140,933 Miles

Test number: 660486788012

Test station name: GROSVENOR MOT TEST CENTRE

Test station number: 40919

Test station telephone number: 01614806646

Test class: IV

Test expiry date: 27/03/2009

Advisory Notice issued

Advise pad wear indicator on plenty of life left in pads.

Advise unable to fully inspect outer sills plastic skirts fitted.

Oil leak

Advise doughnut rubber joint on propshaft beginning to perish.

Advise n/s/f pad wear indicator snapped.

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Date of test: 16/03/2009

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 169,746 Miles

Test number: 530205579079

Test station name: MOT CENTRE

Test station number: 1ALL51

Test station telephone number: 01565625625

Test class: IV

Test expiry date: 27/03/2010

Advisory Notice issued

Rear Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1f)

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Date of test: 06/05/2009

Certificate issued (Pass)

Odometer reading: 87,605 Miles

Test number: 571926829113

Test station name: LEADERCRAY

Test station number: 23981

Test station telephone number: 02088062460

Test class: IV

Test expiry date: 05/05/2010

No Advisory Notice issued

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This completes the test history for the above vehicle as recorded on VOSA's MOT Computerisation Database

If it hadnt have been for the Service history annomily, I reckon I might have had it. It looked legit mileage wise.... :wack:

The service history was all from BMW Stevenage 'Specialist Cars Ltd' 01438 ******. THey have never seen the car but the BMW database confirmed it was last serviced in Feb 2009 @ 168k miles.

Let me know if I can be of any further assistance, but Id rather that you made a call to him and made out you were intersted in the car and went from there, rather than just turn up on his door and use my name etc as proof....

Thanks

Matt

Use the VOSA site if you can. Could save your *****!

:)

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Hi all and thanks for the welcome,

Just to update you, we pick up our 04 plate RX300 SEL next weekend.

Went to view and test drive today, lovely car, really pleased and looking forward to the Lexus experience you all seem to enjoy.

We will no doubt be needing some of your guidance with "stuff" in the future.

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