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Currently have got 10 plate IS250 Auto with Sat Nav loan car at the moment, while my IS250 gets a new bonnet fitted under warranty, and it does not have any flappy paddles on the steering wheel.

When did they remove this as standard and make them optional?

I really miss them, as I use them all the time on my current car?

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I had a quick browse at some photos of used cars on the Lexus website, and found one (an SE-I, I think) that didn't have them. Maybe they are standard only on the upper models.

Lexus seem to be shooting themselves in the foot with the effective de-specing (flappy paddles, Sat-Nav with no ML or Traffic, etc) that they have done.

I've got a '56 IS250SE Auto MM and I can't see myself upgrading it for a newer one, beacase to get all the same toys, it seems you have to get an SE-L for loadsamoney...

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I got my 59-reg IS250 SE-I in November 2009 - I believe this was one of the first "new specs" without paddles as standard - and with Bluetooth integrated as standard.

I thought this was an updated specification - I'd waited a few months as prior to that, the spec was with paddles but without Bluetooth, and I wanted the newer combo.

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I got my 59-reg IS250 SE-I in November 2009 - I believe this was one of the first "new specs" without paddles as standard - and with Bluetooth integrated as standard.

I thought this was an updated specification - I'd waited a few months as prior to that, the spec was with paddles but without Bluetooth, and I wanted the newer combo.

Has it still got the option to manually change gear using the stick?

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I got my 59-reg IS250 SE-I in November 2009 - I believe this was one of the first "new specs" without paddles as standard - and with Bluetooth integrated as standard.

I thought this was an updated specification - I'd waited a few months as prior to that, the spec was with paddles but without Bluetooth, and I wanted the newer combo.

Has it still got the option to manually change gear using the stick?

Yes - my car still has the manual nudge change, which I've used once in seven months when an iced-over road made the auto almost impossible to drive (fun though).

I did think the paddles were huge - that put me off. Each to their own of course - my Alfa back in 2001 had buttons, very nice...

And, as well as no-paddles and integrated Bluetooth, I also think my HDD USB was part of the new spec?

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So is it just F-Sports that have the paddles now or do SE-Ls still have it too?

*EDIT* Looking at the used car site it looks like the SE-Ls still have them too.

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