Dpf Removal Or Regeneration? Advice And Opinions Needed

[webby031]

Hi Forum Members,

I'm afraid my little baby is220d is suffering from constant problems - I think related to the dpf filter . I've read on this forum a couple of threads and it looks like my case is typical (well I hope is not a common fault because I always had solid opinion about lexus engineers...) a complete removal sounds like a major operation and not quite sure about that... why would you remove something that was design/fitted by a specialists for a good reason...?

Currently I'm waiting to hear a quote from the local lexus dealer for the new filter fitting but I don't expect a realistic figure ...

Should I go for the full regeneration process or remove DPF completely from the exhaust system?

Any advice or guidance are welcome.

[DennisJ]

Given the cost to replace and the trouble they cause, I think I would go for a complete DPF and EGR removal.

Search on here as there is a company in the South West that offer this. You will have no further issues and according to the poster on this site the car will pass its MOT and feel renewed. The system will suffer no ill effects and no warning lights will be activated (their claim)

They are only there to comply with the emissions regs for new vehicles.

The cost is less than half the price of a new DPF (let alone fitting) and they can also use a piggyback remapping device (similar to the TTE system) that can offer up to 220BHP

I'd love to drive one to see what the difference is

[webby031]

Hi I got answer from local Lexus dealer regarding new DPF filter fitting:

worst case scenario is going to be about £2340.00 inc vat if the O2 pipes and EGT sensors need replacing as they can weld themselves into the DPF, if they come out ok you will be looking at about £1460.00 inc vat

It was fairly new vehicle, I know that it wasn't cheap but I'm quite sure you wouldn't expect that Lexus engineers would make such a f**k-up designing exhaust system for those great cars... Are they having a laugh?!

I don't think I have to explain why I'm looking for an alternative route ...

[webby031]

Thanks Dennis for your advice, I must say that sounds very optimistic..., if that would solve the problem, ok on MOT and more power! YES YES YES :)

...but my nature is a bit more sceptic and I would like to get some more info about regen first, If that would fail ... then defenetly I'm not going to buy new DPF filter!

[Shigo]

I have removed DPF, 5th injector, twin cat, swaped OEM exhaust with inox free-flow pipe fi60mm and twin rear silencers free-flow instead of single OEM, bypassed EGR, swaped OEM air-filter with K&N panel filter.

My car runs better that any IS220d.

I'm still waiting for chip installation.

If you wanna remove DPF go and find my topic "is220d best mods" and contact "P&P autoservices".

http://www.pandpauto.co.uk/

[webby031]

thanks Shigo for answer,

List of the mods you've implemented is impressive, I'm sure that driving your lexus is a pure pleasure ;)

Currently I'm considering complete removal (answer from the Dorset dealer = over £2300 ! for new one!) but before that I was looking into the regen first. Have you tried to regenerate DPF filter? or that is just waste of time?

Thanks as well for directing to yours thread about the is220d mods ... I found some more recommendations for p&p autos on this forum, seems to be a good choice...

[Shigo]

regen is waste of time.

do the dpf removal with dpf-emulator, car will get better MPG and more torque, like fooking train!

contact P&Pauto ;)

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=79145

:)

[webby031]

You were absolutely right Shigo....I know...I know...you've told me...I like to check things myself but same time I do appreciate your opinion - I went for full DPFregeneration and unfortunately fault keep coming back!!!!!!!!!! :megaangry:

DPF filter regeneration is waste of time!

[webby031]

I've tried to contact Peter from P&P Autos but he is on holiday and be will be back after New Years...

Meanwhile I've done little Internet research for DPF removing companies in Somerset and surronding area and I came across two completely different statements referring ECU reprogramming in Lexus IS220d ?!

• According to some 'experts' in the business ECU is fully reprogrammable
  

• or : ECU is currently impossible to remap - no software / hardware available on market - instead use DPF emulator
  

So what is the real answer?? Do I have to use DPF emulator?

list of the companies that I've checked in my area offering DPF removal services :

Reidy Remaps‎

http://reidyremaps.co.uk‎/

Buckland Road

Yeovil

Somerset

BA21 5HA

07709 453760

They not covering Lexus :(

P&P Auto Services

http://pandpauto.co.uk/

Unit 9a

Courtlands Farm Industrial Estate

Taunton

Somerset

TA2 6NS

tel.01823 325 039

service available with DPF emulator : price - £550

Vallis Auto center

http://www.vallisautocentre-frome.co.uk/

Unit H Vallis Trading Estate

Robins Lane

Frome

Somerset

BA11 3DT

tel. 01373 473 349

Software supplied by Evolution Chips not available yet...(I believe that is quite big map supplier in the country) :(

Motor Mods

http://www.motormods.co.uk/

Gotherington Cross Garage

Evesham Road

Cheltenham

Gloucestershire

GL52 8SA

service available with DPF emulator: price - £720 (maybe is not is not too far...but the price...)

Somerset auto tints

http://somersetautotints.co.uk/

Unit 3B alexandra Court

Alexandra Road

Yeovil

Somerset

BA21 5AL

07967 931339

service available with ECU remap: price - £520

Avon Tuning

http://www.avontuning.co.uk

Unit 6

Tockington Poultry Centre

Hardy Lane

Tockington

Bristol

BS32 4LQ

01454 800 117

service available with DPF emulator : price - £550

Autocare Services (Exeter) Ltd

http://www.autocareservices.co.uk

Unit 3

8 Christow Road

Marsh Barton

Exeter

EX2 8QP

01392 203156

They not covering Lexus :(

Anyone from the forum members had any experience with listed companies?

[Shigo]

yes, dpf-emu should be installed because ecu is locked and no way to enter

[webby031]

I've check other forums and spoke with some mechanics - everywhere same answer - only DPF emulator....so if someone is offering remap for is220d the best way would to avoid that 'companies' even for break pads replacement...

another interesting thing is that I've read some stories about unwanted side effect after modification - like for instance white smoke from exhaust ???

[Chuckie888]

Can you just physically block the 5th injectors fuel line? The electronics would then tell the valve to open, but fuel would be injected.

The pressure diff sensor would presumably never give a high difference (blocked) reading with the DPF guts taken out?

[Shigo]

when will u all stop with trolling here if I have allready wrote step by step what to do?!

again, look here:

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=79145&hl=

what does it says at number 4.?!

do the dpf removal or stop searching because its the only way I have written.

[webby031]

Thanks Shigo,

I've spoke with p&p - booked for next week!

Can't wait now....I'm getting excited like a little kiddy :outforcount:

[Shigo]

Thanks Shigo,

I've spoke with p&p - booked for next week!

Can't wait now....I'm getting excited like a little kiddy :outforcount:

gr8!

send my greetings to Sokol when u get there!

[Ruudfood]

Does anyone know anywhere in London (or counties bordering N, NW, W and SW London) offering the same service as PandP?

[Alice in chains]

hello mate

I exactly know the feeling . You think it is long way to drive to Taunton but: These gus=ys offer proper service and tested by many lexusowner users. I've been there and had my IS220 dpf removed. I've been trying to find company closer to London but I found rumours about companies claiming they can do Lexus but ... . Anyway this company offer full professional service and they really know what they are doing. So I wouldn hesitate to contact Peter and talk to him about your dilemma .

[civillis]

Hello guys, I really want to remove that bloody dpf from my lexus, but its 600+ miles for me to go to Taunton, I'm from Inverness, Scotland. Anybody know someone who could remove DPF in Scotland?

Edit:

I found only 1 company in Glasgow, who does DPF removal for lexus is 220d.

http://www.omg-performance.co.uk/index.html

did anybody try their service? Can I trust them?

[nearlyfunny]

I've had exactly the same problem. I had driven from Mid Wales to Durham when the dreaded Check VSC and limp mode kicked in. Turned off engine and car would run for 5 minutes before dropping back to limp mode. To cut a very long story short, ended up on a 6 hour flatbed journey back home. The usual P2002(particulate trap efficiency below threshold bank 1) alarm was showing when interrogated. After researching here and everywhere else trying to find somewhere near that could do the job, I found these guys - http://www.ecutechtune.co.uk/. These are based in Manchester and even trailer-ed the car up there for me. Have just driven the car 150 miles back, and all I can say is that the car is going better than it ever was. Improved fuel consumption too. So if anyone is looking for someone in the North West, I can recommend these guys. Ask for James. By the way, I had tried all the "magic" additives, but when your car will only run for 5 minutes at a time, trying to get over 3k revs is nigh on impossible. Anyway, damn dpf has gone now, emulator fitted and all hunky dory!

[civillis]

Nearlyfunny, how much did that cost for you (DPF REMOVAL). These guys in Glasgow doing it for 500£ but i cant find any reviews about them.

[nearlyfunny]

Hi there,

It was £600 with the Manchester chaps, car running really well now.

[Ray s]

What MPG are you getting now? after this work was done

[nearlyfunny]

Hi Ray, Sorry for delay. Current fuel consumption is 43.5mpg, but hasten to add that I also have a Chip Express module fitted. I have only driven short local journeys and a couple of around 90 miles. This is slightly better than I was achieving before for the same journeys although when I used to drive to Durham ( which I notice is your neck of the woods! ), I used to get about 50mpg. That is a 269 mile journey for me and have not driven there since October as my lad has returned for Christmas on the train. Overall, the car seems to be running a lot smoother. As stated in my new thread, I'm not sure what will happen when I take the car for its MOT which is due in March - after the new rules come in. Hope this helps :)

[Katrina]

Hello guys, I really want to remove that bloody dpf from my lexus, but its 600+ miles for me to go to Taunton, I'm from Inverness, Scotland. Anybody know someone who could remove DPF in Scotland?

Edit:

I found only 1 company in Glasgow, who does DPF removal for lexus is 220d.

http://www.omg-performance.co.uk/index.html

did anybody try their service? Can I trust them?

If any of you are still thinking about dpf removal then please think again. I decided on getting it done when I was persuaded to do so by a so called professional promising me great mpg's with no emissions problems or MOT worries ever again. If only I knew that these so called companies are just a bunch of highly trained professionals in the art of lying through their teeth who have taught themselives how to hide behind technicalities when it comes to MOT time. Now I'm £550 out of pocket and need a new dpf fitted by a real professional.

One big cycle which has left me completely out of pocket and back where I started from in less then a year.

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/88280-lexus-is220d-check-vsc-p2002-dpf-removal-remap-mot-failure-so-avoid-like-the-plague/

[Ray s]

Thats bad news Catrina, sorry to hear that