Ade W 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Evening, Just spent most of the day trying to free a binding nearside front brake (car has been laid up for quite a while). Eased the pistons and the top sliding pin but the lower pin remained stiff despite cleaning and greasing. When pushing the pin in it is a very tight fit and the small rubber bush kept moving up the pin to the taper. Very often the pin would also slide back out on it's own as if something was being compressed as it was pushed in?? Taking the bush off helped the pin move more freely. If left off I assume this could lead to a rattle or knock but has anyone else had any experience of this? Any views if it would be ok to leave this bush off to allow a freer movement? Any help would be welcome. Many thanks, Adrian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinBarber 754 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Probably the wrong grease has been used and the bushing is swollen. Also using too much grease will create a seal and therefore air will be trapped when you push in the pin, leading to the pin pushing out on its own. You should really purchase a new pin and bush, and then only use a pea sized amount of brake grease to cover the whole of the sliding pin (after completely cleaning out the hole it goes into). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve2006 1,173 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 I find cleaning out the hole with some solvent and a tapered piece of kitchen roll helps to remove any remaining greasy gunge then apply new grease to the pin. The rubber bushes are I believe anti rattle devices. If the pin is rusty or badly pitted it may be worth replacing it for less than a tenner each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade W 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Great, thanks both for replying so quickly. Will try to clean the hole out better now your replies have eased the frustration a bit! If not new pin it is. Out of interest I think I'll try it down the road to see if it rattles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deet27 1 Report post Posted February 22, 2015 Same happened to my Slide Pins due to wrong grease being used and causing the rubber bush to swell. I bought a caliper slide pin kit which has all the bits you need costs £16 http://goo.gl/NTNyxm It also has the correct grease for the slide pins Silicone Grease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinBarber 754 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 It also has the correct grease for the slide pins Silicone Grease. Lithium soap based Glycol grease is the recommended stuff to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ade W 0 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 Thanks all, I see various recommendations on the net regarding which grease to use. I guess many will do the anti friction part but damage to the rubber bush looks to be an issue. I know WD40 used to damage o rings and some rubber parts on my Honda motorcycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerFish 170 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 As Colin mentioned, the service manual states Lithium soap based Glycol grease. That ebay kit isn't bad for the parts though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinBarber 754 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 Toyota/Lexus are very specific about what grease should be used however it seems a lot of dealers don't even follow the recommendations. It can be ordered from your dealer. Personally I use Bosch superfit brake lubricant mainly because I couldn't find the Toyota part code at the time I needed some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deet27 1 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 It also has the correct grease for the slide pins Silicone Grease. Lithium soap based Glycol grease is the recommended stuff to use. My apologizes I thought that Silicone Grease was the correct grease for slide pins. That Toyota Rubber Grease is it the same as all Red Rubber Grease? ( I have a tub of http://goo.gl/lTfrT3 Also I have a Tube of Mintex Ceratec anti brake sequel lubricant seems to be the same as the Bosch superfit brake lubricant, i didnt realise it was suitable for slide pins only to be used for back of pads etc. Looks like i would be able to use that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
capese21 138 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 On 23/02/2015 at 8:02 PM, ColinBarber said: Lithium soap based Glycol grease is the recommended stuff to use. Agreed Molykote G3407 is the best grease to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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