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Last month my LS 460 marked its 10th anniversary. I bought it 5 years ago - it now has about 80,000 miles on the odometer - and thought this would be a good time to reflect on my ownership experience. I had, previously, owned an LS 400 for 15 years and would like to think I can keep this machine for a similar length of time. I did consider an LS 600 but decided that the extra complications presented by the hybrid set-up might be too costly in the future. I found the transition from 400 to 460 very easy. They are, however, different in a few ways. We all agree that the engineering on the 400 is second to none, and that it is a wonderfully quiet and smooth automobile. The 460 is NOT as quiet, mine has the 19" wheels which I would not recommend. It is still a very quiet car. The seats are not as robust as the 400 because they are heated and air-conditioned. After 10 years, my leather still looks like new. It has air suspension with 3 settings. I find it very comfortable although the 19" wheels mean that it doesn't 'waft' like the 400. The 400 was very well equipped, electronically, for its day - and the 460 is a natural progression. However, I think that some of the features are a waste of time: the Self Parking for instance.......I never use it. If you read the US Lexus Forum you would think that the 460 has lots of problems......the air suspension, wind noise, upper and lower steering links etc. I have my car serviced at my local Lexus dealer, here, in Holland. Apart from the annual service I have only had 2 problems; a shattered wheel bearing, caused by an evil road in Scotland (during my annual visit) and a glitch in the parking computer which caused my steering wheel to sit 'off-centre'. The 460 has electric steering and a computer re-set fixed the problem. I had to have a new battery in 2015 - replaced free because it was still under warranty - and then another one 2 months ago (again replaced free). When I took my car in for its service last week they did some investigating. Here, on the Continent, there is a lively 'trade' in stolen, nearly new, luxury cars - which usually end up in Eastern Europe or Russia. Some insurance companies insist that new high-end cars have a 'Track and Trace' device fitted. This involves a monthly subscription and most owners stop paying the subscription after about 2 years. The device, however, is still fitted and hot-wired to the battery. The power drain is the equivalent of leaving the boot light on. The dealer found the problem and disconnected the device. I did not have to pay for this......they want to stop giving me free batteries :) The Service Manager is an acquaintance of mine and gives me lots of good information. There are very few LS 460/600s in Holland but, as far as problems go, here is what he has told me: they have changed 2 air struts on a 600 which had 200,000 miles on it. Steering links; one so far - at 150,000 miles. They do have computer glitches which require a system re-set. Remember I said I had chosen a 460 over a 600? They haven't changed a 600 hybrid battery ever! The dealer is a combined Toyota/Lexus franchise - separate receptions, workshops and, of course, far better biscuits in the Lexus coffee room :) They have only changed a handful of hybrid batteries, and only on the early model Prius. Perhaps I was too hasty opting for the 460 over the 600. I know that, as LS owners, we are fiercely loyal to our cars. Unfortunately your 400s, 430s and, indeed my 460, will eventually become uneconomical to keep. Moving up the LS ladder isn't a problem!

I am getting spammed now by this. On Instagram everywhere. I am awaiting the BBC news article ;-)

Give it up @doog442 You're never going to get much support for cyclists on a car forum. The vocal "they're a menace" lot will always win out. These sort of discussions are best avoided. I've dipped into this once or twice since my original posts, shaken my head and left again. I see stupid cyclists most days but I see a lot more stupid car, van and lorry drivers and the consequences of their acts of ignorance and stupidity are usually a damn sight more serious. Go and talk about winter tyres or something. Or politics. Much safer.

Your Lexus is a Toyota as you know. You might need to get beyond the reception desk to get this sorted as more than often than not they've only done a course in how the coffee machine works.

I've run mine down to show zero before - unless you add a decent amount of fuel then it doesn't reset. Go fill it up and see what happens

if your key isn't detected place the lexus emblem on the back of the remote against the start button and then press the button as normal the key will be recognised then. the most annoying pop ups i am seeing at the moment are the black friday ads every time i come onto the lexus / toyota forums

Here are a couple of pics of my car lowered. The back is very slightly lower by about 1cm. I have had it from new and done 16k miles and it has been lowered all that time so I am used to it. Probably a bit firmer than the non standard Premier but not excessive and I feel it looks far better.

It is always worth checking your nearest Lexus main dealer price for parts, sometimes some things are not ''much'' more expensive, far less trouble to obtain & far less worry that they will be the right fit.

Hello and welcome to the LOC. Rarely do the parking brake shoes need replacing, generally a good clean,roughing up and adjustment restores the efficiency but if they do need replacing the part number is 46530-50020.

Thats not a bad price.. the £550 for 2 itmes is no longer available. I have saved the 3 itme on ebay... thanks. I think its a nice simple mod to give it a aggressive looks.

Excellent! That is just what we need here, a bit of humour!

Tein H-Tech...

New price alert, the price has gone up again and now the discount has reduced to 7%, I always thought there were consumer laws that meant a product had to be on sale at a particular price for a certain period of time before they could claim a "was" price and "now" price, this place operates like the Footsie top 100 share prices.

Excellent reflections and insight into potential problems from a dealer perspective

@ruutastic Hi Andy welcome to the forum, I have never heard of a car on here with an issue as described and many use there car to there full potential with some still being tracked with a100k plus miles, I'm sorry you have a problem now with yours. Whats the history of the car do you know her past I run a list of ISF'S that is now 80% complete of the cars that remain. Have you got the original reg number I'd be happy to look to see if the past use may help to make a decision for you as to whether to repair or not. Big Rat

I'd go fill it. The average mpg reading on the current consumption display resets when it is filled up, the range probably does the same. This is all assuming the fuel gauge is working - if it isn't then you more likely have a broken connection or faulty sensor. Also it will say 0 when you get down to about 1/6 of a tank as the reserve is huge.

is this the same part number for your refill https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-OEM-Lexus-Seal-Tyre-Repair-250-300H-04-2013-Onwards-C604847051-/263174733950?hash=item3d466fc07e

@dr_rick is no longer a Lexus driver I believe. I've got the details of who did his exhaust somewhere though. I think someone on here bought his car actually!!

yes it does ,its just a pity that once you reset it ,it doesnt stay off until the next time you start the car rather than every few minutes the alarm re-appears

So are we saying this is a kit to make a 220d or 250 look like an isf????

Or simply park further back from the kerb! I fitted coil-overs to my C class, 35mm drop from standard and never had an issue. Yes needed care over speed bumps but was worth it for the stance. That all said I would never just change the springs, you need to match them with the correct dampers.

Hi Phil I had the same decision to make when I bought my 350 last year. If you look at new ones then the cost difference between the petrol and hybrid isn't too great (or wasn't when you could buy both) but the second-hand values are very far apart. I reckoned it would have cost me about £8K more to buy a similar hybrid (low mileage 2006 RX350SE). OK it costs a bit more to run but you get a lot of petrol for £8K. Personally I would avoid the SEL as I have seen reports of expensive problems with the air suspension. I opted for a 350 rather than a 400H as we leave the car for a while when we are away and the battery problems with the 400H (which don't seem to happen with the 450) would have been inconvenient. Sadly the "business case" for most green technology is pretty weak in my opinion. I have pasted the spreadsheet on costs I did before I bought mine. Regards Mike CAR LEXUS LEXUS VW MERCEDES AUDI Annual Fuel/Road Tax Costs in France SURF RX400 RX300/350 TOUAREG ML270/280/320 Q7 Dimensions £14-16K £10-12K £8-14K £11-18K £18-20K Hybrid Petrol/litre Diesel/litre LPG/litre Exchange rate Road Tax £240.00 £475.00 £475.00 £465.00 €/£ Width at back loading door 1230 1150 1150 MPG € 1.47 € 1.47 € 1.35 € 0.85 1.2 Annual Mileage Width at wheel arches 940 1010 1010 ML270/280/320 29 6000 £1,627.18 £1,533.12 £1,248.79 Annual save on gas LPG conv. Payback Width at back of rear seat (folded down) 1300 1350 1350 RX350/Q7/Touareg 24 £1,867.21 £1,412.08 £455.13 £1,896.00 4.2 Save on hybrid Height at loading door 810 780 780 RX400H 29 £1,392.18 £710.04 Height above folded rear seat 830 690 690 RX450H 34 £1,222.74 £1,133.53 £879.47 Length at floor level to back of front seat 1700 1850 1850 Fuel cost ratio (Fr) Length at full height 1600 1160 1160 0.58 Max load weight (Kg) 800 505 505 415 645 795 Costs using fuel cost ratio £1,867.21 £1,199.65 £667.57 2.8 Load Volume (seats down) (litres) 1700 1500 1500 1570 2050 2035 Load Volume (seats up) (litres) 850 900 900 555 551 775 Ground clearance (mm) 210 MPG 24 31 27 27 29 27 Car Tax (£) 240 475 460 460 Pre March 2006 220 270 270 270

would do the same with Scunthorpe...