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No surprise to me that the ISF comes into Autocar magazine's list of depreciation busting performance cars. But Shhhh just don't tell everyone !! "There are certain performance cars on the second-hand market that are so well-regarded – and that are in sufficient demand – that their values are set in stone. Pick the right one and it’ll probably owe you nothing two or three years down the road. You could get back every penny you paid for it". "post-2011 IS Fs still command £25,000, while the earliest cars are trading hands for around £18,000. It’s unlikely they’ll slip much further" "IS F is exceptionally rare, which is exactly what will keep values strong in years to come." Well we knew that I guess but it's what Autocar think too, and its certainly more fun than keeping the keeping the money in the bank! I just need to wait until the RC F reaches a similar status before I raid the bank again https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/beating-depreciation-performance-cars-cost-nothing-own

Like cars, watch collecting is fun at all price points. You don’t have to own expensive cars or watches to enjoy them.

Hello all! Had my GSF for just over a year, only really now getting involved with the whole 'club' aspect of car ownership as I never had the time before! Found a few other random GSF owners on instagram and was directed here! Daily driven for the past year, couple of worthy road trips and about 16k miles later, all I can say is I 'F'-ing love my GS. For anyone heading to Simply Japanese at Beaulieu Motor Museum, hope to catch you there! Kieran

Hi, we go from Ardrossan to Brodick Lochranza to Claonaig, Oban to Castlebay, Ardmhor ( Barra) to Eriskay, Berneray to Leverburgh, Tarbet to Uig, and finally Armadale to Mallaig, then drive back to Cheshire. Accomadation and ferries all booked 8-20 th May and looking forward to it. Decided LS best car for journey and trust all goes well, cheers, Roger

I too am a lower-league man (probably non-league really!) but I love my Skagen and my Longines Conquest, I also have a 1961 Hefik.

I love watches, but I am in a very different, lower league than you guys. Mine are Philip Starck O-Ring (orange/steel), Skagen, Ingersoll, Xeric Halograph, and others...

What I am hoping and expecting is that isf prices will bolster rcf and Rcf will bolster lcf much like the Elise bolsters the exige and the exige bolsters the Evora. If the top price isf cars are listed at 25 I would expect rcf to remain 5k plus above it at all times.

Hi everyone, Not sure if this would interest anybody, but after recently purchasing my LS430 I found a CD inside the owners manual. There was no real labeling except a list of PC requirements. So after firing up my old Windows machine to investigate it appears to be an interactive owners manual for the following models: IS200 / IS300 GS300 / GS430 LS430 RX300 RX400h SC430 It includes information about each model and their features, a selection of wallpapers and even screen savers (although I imagine they probably won't work on modern computers) Anyway I thought I'd share the contents with you guys in case anybody is interested. I created an ISO image from the disc. Providing you're running Windows 10, double click the file and it will auto mount as a CD. Run the "Lexus.exe" file and the program should run. Download Link: https://megaupload.nz/ka7aj4e1nb/Lexus_iso

Plenty of Prius and other Toyota hybrids doing very high mileage with no engine failures on standard service intervals, same as Toyota standard petrol engined vehicles. I don't see any reason to change your oil at shorter intervals than 10k. The synthetic oil used more than stands up to that interval as plenty of oil analysis reports have shown - which people in the US love to get done. The fact that people in the US have consumption issues somewhat shows this isn't an interval issue as they tend to change every 6k miles.

One to put a smile on our faces........As an ex SC430 owner still looking for an opportunity (and cash!) to return to the fold I keep a lazy eye on autotrader to see what pops up. The Lexus Dealer in Hatfield has a gorgeous 2004 SC with only 31500 miles up for £12950, a not insignificant price but look at some of the things you get: Optitron instruments, adaptive front lighting/AFS, LED rear lights and Bluetooth......... link to ad below Except you don’t get any of these because the car is 2004 and the above only came with the facelift car in 05/06. They even include a photo of the instrument panel which proves the car doesn’t have an Optitron panel. Lexus Hatfield also describe their SC as a ‘Sports Coupe’, which is the first time I’ve seen that phrase and the SC put together. Should they be told......? I guess someone will pay that price, but I hope they check the spec first. Lexus Hatfield

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That's true, but the oil is likely to be dirtier in an engine that isn't run very much as opposed to cleaner. I don't know how often hybrids run their engines though, maybe the charging duty cycle is enough to keep them hot enough to condition the oil. Mileage is not a good indicator of when you should change your oil anyway, it really depends how the car was driven. Some very good info on oil change intervals here: http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/291

Always advantageous to have the car up to warm and operating temperature before the test. Emissions are usually higher if not up to operating temperature.

Brilliant. We often go to Islay. It's all beautiful! Safe journey.

I don't claim to know a lot about hybrids, and my car isn't one, but this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. No engine is "stressed" when it's running under normal conditions, and oil is not well preserved in an engine when it isn't running, quite the opposite. Moisture builds up in the crankcase and only gets vented off through the CCV when the engine is run up to temperature for a period of time. This is why engines with an "oil quality sensor" (which I also don't trust) generally indicate a longer interval in miles the more the car is driven, and why if a car is barely driven at all you should still probably change the oil every 6 months. Motorway miles are really good on the engine, it's pretty much ideal conditions, so if you change your oil and then put 5k motorway miles on it in a short space of time with 100+ mile trips then your oil will likely look brand new when you look at the dipstick. Maybe there's something else about hybrids that I don't know that changes this equation but I'm struggling to imagine how. Maybe it deliberately runs it up to temperature and then duty cycles it to keep it there? Seems a bit of a stretch given that the main goal of those systems is better fuel mileage and lower emissions. The manufacturer really doesn't care if the car makes it past 100k miles as long as it makes it out of the warranty period. In any case you'll never save enough money on oil changes to even begin to pay for a major engine repair. I've heard from a garage owner a year or two ago that the number of 2008+ cars from companies like BMW and Audi coming in with <100k miles on them needing a new engine is "phenomenal" and he was convinced it was because of the manufacturer's extended oil change intervals.

it sure does have a clock.. but i stumbled across this and thought mmh would it blend in well with the dash or look out of place...

Even though no warning lights on the dash I would definitely check for any codes and all the better if done with Techstream.

More dribble about ride quality 🙈 Rear tyre wear. Really? It’s not bad at all, and I used to spank mine. IS-F, an excellent car. And it doesn’t suffer from some of the issues associated with the RC-F.

Check how much material is left on your pads, from experience when they get to be about 3/4 worn they start to emit the most awful intermittent screeching noise that lasts for about 50 miles Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've purchased Blueprint upper arms and drop links. They are being fitted tomorrow so will update you. I'll get the garage to keep the old ones and see if they can spot anything else with the suspension apart.

Thanks for the welcome John, I'm planning on keeping the service history up and a visit to Lexus Cheltenham is on the cards, it's been almost two years since it's last service but in that time it's only done just over 500 miles, I'm thinking I should probably get it serviced anyway. Cheers Dan

Thanks Steve, i did try the garden hose down the filler pipe as you kindly suggested. There's a small flap under the filler cap, so pushed through that, them 18" downthe tube there's what seems like another flap, so pushed through that and into the tank i would imagine. I didn't go far beyond this second flap as it was digging into the pipe as i pulled it back again and trying to prevernt the withdrawl.Didn't seem to be a blockage . I assume that the rising head of fuel as you are filling must open this bottom flap and let petrol into tank? Mike

Mike, Do you push the filler nozzle in up to its hilt? If so try pulling it back a little. John

I'd check your battery is good and the condition of the earthing from the battery to the body and body to the engine. P1663 is a VVT engine error and P1760 is transmission - these are unrelated and therefore something common such as poor earthing is the likely cause. Also check the connectors on the ECU for corrosion/water ingress. What errors were you getting to need to replace both O2 sensors - normally only one fails at a time. Was any wiring damaged when the sensors were replaced?

sounds like you might have some sort of air lock in there somewhere. I sometimes suffered the same issues and just rocked the car gently to and fro ........ whether that made any difference i know not. I haven't had the problem for years Best of luck with it Malc

I believe all the Toyota/Lexus hybrids have the hidden menu. There is an alternative method of entering the menu by going to the settings screen in accessory mode as previous post. In this screen there are two gold horizontal bands one near the top the other near the bottom. Pressing imaginary buttons on the left hand side of the screen just under the top gold band, and just above the bottom gold band starting at the top alternatively three times each. This should bring up the hidden menu. John.

normal side windows cut about 70% out. Lexus windows are coated to achieve 90% for both UVA and UVB.

@Northern isf Got them from ECP. I know there is debate over whether they are as good as the ones from Lexus but I have only had a set of discs crack on me once... And they were the ones from Lexus. Never had an issue with ones from ECP.

Good luck to your wife Peter. Nice looking CL interior. Would love to have those seats in my LS. I loved my S320CDI's seat. The rest of the car was unreliable and expensive to fix.

i actually enjoyed Grand Tour in Mongolia, but then i have a great connection with that country that made me enjoy it more. GT is better than TG but i will watch both. (just realised how close those abbreviations really are)

Also sorry to hear of your predicament, and trust your wife makes a full recovery. Love the boat and your photos and reports ,Rgds,Roger

Peter Firstly let me add to the good wishes you have received for your Wife and her recovery,I to spent many happy years in the south west Florida region around the Fort Myers area fishing and boating. Later this summer we are embarking on a epic month long tour of the National Parks bespoke driving organised by a renowned vacation planner,usual Yellowstone, Yosemite,and eight others over six states.Will be driving a ford edge which I have used before in the US not as nice as a 400 but still pretty good. With regard to the steering wheel ,yes I agree with your sentiments fortunately mine is still mint but that is useful info.

Sorry to hear of your wife's predicament, mine went through chemo and radiotherapy 5.5 years ago, not nice, but fully recovered now thank God. As for something less important like a steering wheel, a very nice job but I love the look and feel of wood! Interestingly, I also love marmite, and have consumed some not 15 mins ago!👍

Sorry to hear that Peter. Hope she gets a rapid and full recovery. My dad has just been diagnosed with his third cancer but I was up in Yorkshire this weekend driving him to Goathland for his 90th birthday party. He loves being driven in the Lexus 😊 So the boat plan is working out for you then? Good to hear. Jon

Hi Paul/Storm thanks and yes that's what I would expect.. no oil used between the 10k. I had a Mondeo for 12 years and that didn't use oil ! and that was a 2L TDCi ! Its in for a service next week and I will be keeping a close eye on it.. I almost hope they find a leak to account for it and not what I suspect which is its burning it.

Absolutely. A £20 Casio will be more accrate than any mechanical watch. Because it’s mechanical. If accuracy is the goal watch’s as a hobby are not for you. It’s around the history of the watches, the complexity of the movements, development of materials within the movements, the hand craftsmanship and more.

That is what watches are about imo. Hopefully he will see your enjoyment of watches and handing them down is such a cool and nice thing to do. It certainly won’t lose money that’s for sure. Lovely looking and timeless design the sub will always be relevant.

Didn't really buy as an investment, just always had an interest. Whilst it may not gain , it certainly shouldn't depreciate. Recently having a grandson pushed me a bit. Something nice for him in 18 years if I'm no longer around!

Ordered a Rolex Submariner non date 19 weeks ago and picked it up yesterday. Very lucky, as there seem to be huge waiting lists for the sports models. So much so, that unworn examples command a fairly high premium over list price. The dealer insisted on removing the protective stickers and retained the guarantee for 6 months, to discourage selling it on. Haven't even put it on yet or had the bracelet altered. Put masking tape on the back and sides to protect it and put it aside. Better than money in the bank. Also have a very battered Oyster, purchased 1989. Omega Chronostop, 1972. And Various Citizen Eco Drives for daily wear.

Maybe I am being dense but not heard that one before...

My Oris GMT World timer decided to split its bracelet last week. I bought an Oris meistertaucher titanium from a Jewellery shop in Knutsford last month, it was brand new but had sat there since 2012. Cheekily I offered a grand for it and they took it! I don't think you beat Oris. If I was wealthy it would be a Panerai Chronograph though. Another world sadly. Sent from my G8141 using Tapatalk

Watches are cool. Good thread. I have a 20 year old Omega Seamaster which I’ve worn almost exclusively during those 7,000+ days. It’s been on four continents, been under the sea with me, was on my wrist when I met my wife and when my kids were born, and is one of my most prized possessions. A decade or so ago I spent some time in Hong Kong and acquired some ‘reproduction’ watches of variable quality, but we won’t talk about that sort of thing here. [emoji846] The Omega lives on my left wrist. On my right lives my FitBit, quietly logging the full extent of my athleticism (cough, cough) and also telling the time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's amazing what they can do to make my watch appear brand new each time. The 10-12 weeks turnaround is quite 'painful' my wrist feels very naked! (Stock photo) I still have the original bakelite box and all the paperwork for it. A dealer offered me £300 just for the box!

Hi all Mine is the same make as peter's a Brietling but a Navitimer Heritage had it 13 years now worn at weekends and holidays got it on now beautiful watch only problem is it costs £600 pounds for a overhaul but there overhaul means stripping down to a box off bits and comes back looking like brand new. This is similar to mine but has silver bezel mine has black. 65mike

Definitely! Make some memories with it and then hand it down as well. I love the idea of a watch (expensive or not) being in a family for many generations

My Breitling SuperOcean Professional, I've worn it everyday since purchasing it back in 2003. Costs more to service than my AMG did! Mind you, Mercedes don't completely dismantle, clean and re-calibrate their product at each service.

I inherited my Dad's Longines Conquest, beautiful watch. I only wear it for special occasions, perhaps I should wear it more often.

Watches are much like cars in that it is a mechanical simpathy and appreciation that draws draws a person to both. The precision required to manufacture a mechanical watch is amazing and something to behold.

Me too. I don't have time for watches.

Music does it for me. I hear a song and I'm instantly transported back in time to the people and the things we were doing when I first heard it - and it's a lot cheaper and less painful than either watches or tattoos