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The guy who had it before has left all the wiring and pipes in the front so it's all there to change it back to air at the front if wanted. I went to check the fuse this morning but unfortunately I couldn't get it out, started the car and still nothing tried everything it said in the manual, so I have moved the car to face the right way for recovery. Turned everything off that I could electrical wise ( heaters/ stereo) started the engine and the compressor kicked in so at the minute he's at normal air ride thank goodness, keeping everything crossed he's stays there so I can get back home 🤞🏻🤞🏻

You're probably right - given current universal trends for cutting quality whilst raising prices - that it was unrealistic to expect the ES to have the same quality materials as the GS, given that the previous generation ES was never the GS's equal. However, I think some of us were living in the hope that because the final pricing of the ES in the UK was so high (a GS 300h Premier was actually cheaper than the ES 300h Takumi) then the material quality of the ES would have been brought up to scratch. It clearly hasn't, and I think it's understandable to be disappointed at the relative crapness of its interior materials compared to the GS. That said, I suspect I'm getting too old for my comments to have much validity these days. I can't really argue that the ES looks good value in a market where people are actually expected to pay £20k for a boggo Ford Focus Zetec. But that market, in my mind, is simply insane and in my old-fashioned head I can't get past the idea that £43k is an obscene amount of money to pay for any car that isn't either properly luxurious or properly fast. I will happily admit that I am tragically out of touch with mass market reality, but I suspect I'm not the only one who thinks like that. I also suspect few GS owners will be trading down to an ES - if I'm going to have to settle for in inferior interior, I'll take the Camry and £10k every time, thanks. However, I expect that Lexus have already factored that in. GS owners are a tiny minority anyway, and the ES is well placed to attract ex-diesel refugees from other 'premium' marques. Toyota interior materials and design have come on massively in the last few years, haven't they? I'd say the C-HR feels as 'premium' as a CT inside, if not more, especially in Excel spec with the quilting. Even my Prius PHV is nicely-built of tidy materials, in an interesting design. I'm sure the new Corolla and Camry will feel the same. For those of us who place actual user experience over badge snobbery, Toyota increasingly offers a relatively appealing alternative to the lower-end Lexus models. Of course, out there in the real world, badge snobbery is very much alive and well...

Good skills mate, enjoy bonnie Scotland and hopefully see you at the weekend 😎😎

Lexus IS300h £40,000, satnav update £165 Garmin satnav £100, map updates FREE for life. Makes you think.

Dark blue with dark alloys and yellow callipers. Couple of other extras which were standard items on the ISF such as electric seats.

Sorry you can’t make it, Paul. Good luck with your new job/status 😃

I don't think safety is an issue, and with the rear adjustable you can compensate for a heavy load in the boot. The issue with only half a system is that you need to fool the ECU that the front is working correctly otherwise you will get a bunch of error codes. You could either move the front height sensors to the rear and extent the wiring or wire the front ECU sensor inputs into the rear sensors, that way when the rear suspension moves the ECU thinks the front is correctly moving too.

Loving the practicality of a hatchback

The reason I ask is that we discussed this on another model and came to the conclusion its not possible to have half air and half springs, so it's interesting that you do!

The air suspension main fuse is in the engine bay fuse box. I believe there is also a separate relay for the compressor. There is also a smaller fuse in the cabin fuse box - the fuse positions should be shown on the inside of the lid.

Moved to the correct forum and duplicate removed. I don't understand what advise you are looking for if you already have replacement parts on the way and intend to convert the air suspension to traditional springs?

Just be very careful to get someone who actually knows what they're doing and who has a great reputation. For instance, don't let anyone near it who would do an installation like in the first two pictures below. Although they may look tidy enough in their own right, there's just no need for doing something like that, cutting the valve cover and having the injectors and pipework out on show. The last picture below is my RX300 and the numbered items are: 1. The Flashlube bottle 2. The LPG ECU 3. The LPG Reducer Oh, and I know I'm sad but I just have to say - it's 'mathS' not 'math' That's an Americanism that really grinds my gears!

Do you mean you have air at the rear and springs at the front?

Hi Steph and welcome to the club. You may have a better chance of an answer if you post in the proper RX forum (I'm not really sure what purpose this "New Members Area" serves to be honest). If you can't hear the compressor working it may be a power issue so I'd check all fuses and/or relays associated with the compressor and air system. I'm afraid I can't be of any help as I've never had air suspension on any of my cars (I've actively avoided it for the reason that it can be extremely expensive to fix when it goes wrong) but I'd say you're doing exactly the right thing in converting to springs and shocks.

I'm an irregular here, but the forum was invaluable when I purchased my 08 silver in the summer of 2012 (I think it was 2012!). It goes like stink. It's comfy. It eats motorway miles and makes me smile when the opportunity arises to open the second valve I love when peteol heads come up and talk about it. They know it's rare. Aside from consumables like new front discs, and a minor misfire caused by a cracked plug and a dodgy air flow filter it's been utterly reliable. It's on 92,000 miles now and was on 42k when I picked it up. Full Lexus history. I got 11k in part exchange for a....Guila quadrifoglio. I wonder if that will be as reliable!?! I'm waiting for the Alfa to arrive from Italy so still have the ISF. It has been a great car. SL58WNS will appear on auto trader soon enough I imagine. Happy to tell any perspective owners about the time I had with it. Take care everyone Dave

So whilst waiting for the service to be done I had little spin in ES, literally a circle around the block so I am not going to go overboard that I know "what the car is like". As the drive-train is nothing to be seen anyway I think that was fair enough - on the motorway I am sure it is fine.... as any other car.. even diesel. By the time you reach 50MPH wind and tire noise going to be louder than any diesel rattle anyway... especially on broken British roads. The area around Woodford is actually quite good for "suspension check" - roads are broken and rough with a lot of speed bumps. That said nothing new - makes some humming noise form hybrid powertrain, I have noticed no difference driving it compared to CT200h, IS300h or RC.. same thing.. don't like any of them. Suspension on bad roads is rather crashy, I would say ~ the same as IS300h, GS is certainly smoother. Again nothing new there, driven it for 1.7 mile... so it would be poor judgement. What I was surprised about was interior... and not in the good way. I came to look at it with prejudice that it will "suck to drive", but it will be very luxurious and nice inside... It does suck to drive... much more due to the sluggish 300h then FWD in this very very limited test... but interior suck as well!!!! Now hold on those stones you about to launch at me for few more seconds. As always I am over-saturating, interior is well built, infotainment suck as in any Lexus, but the screen is big, steering wheel is the same as you would find in any new F-Sport Lexus - thick and soft with a lot of key.. quite good overall. Seats are great, although I felt more at home in RC driving position. However, there are sticking points, which I do not understand, do not appreciate and which are overall problem for me... for example everything inside is made out of plastic, there are no premium materials at all and I am talking here about top of the range "takumi" model. What?! The "aluminium" in inserts are just textured plastic, centre console and windows switches have sort of "wood grain" finish, but again just black plastic. Doesn't feel as cheap as inserts on RC, which were horrible sort of carbon fibre like from kids toys... but still I expected better. I guess it could be argued - the texture plastic is lighter than aluminium or wood... but hey ES not exactly race car. Again, that plastic doesn't creak, nor rattle, it is reasonable quality, but it is PLASTIC. If nor for Lexus badge on the wheel I doubt I would be able to tell whenever it is one of the larger Toyotas like Avalon... In fact no so long ago I had Toyota Auris as a rental and feeling of the console is very similar - sturdy, good quality plastic, but nothing posh.. where in Lexus I exactly expect it to be posh and fancy. Furthermore... entire Lexus range is the same CT, UX, IS, NX and only RX had leather stitched door cards, but centre console still plastic. They had no LS/LC on the floor which I know are better, but I was really puzzled what you get from Lexus over Toyota? Or what you get in ES over say IS Premier which has nice premium detailing. 100% it is step down from GS, feel like a cheaper, car is made from cheaper material, inferior drivetrain... ok you getting extra leg room in the back, but less headroom... so what is the reasoning for anyone to change for this? _____ Edit: It was Actually, F-sport with "Takumi Pack" and not actually "Takumi", still quite disappointing... Lexus call that "Hadori plasti-luminium inlays"... terrible.

Right, got the thing out... lots of wd-40, a chisel, hammer and enthusiasm. I think the bushing thing at the end of the pin had deteriorated and that’s what was making it be so stubborn to get out. Now I need a new pin. You guys any idea where’s best to get them from? Seen a lot on eBay but don’t want to get ones that are a knock off. Seen these ones https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F261625401047 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ended up going with the easy option and just cleaning them out and putting them back together. Didn’t cost me anything and look 10x better. Not particularly bothered that they don’t work as it’s not meant to be a car I’m putting money into really! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It comes with five years warranty so at least for five years any issues aren't mine. It's also two years since launch with 750 sold in the UK alone so a decent chance or issues being identified already. But yeah it's more heart than head buying it over something not Italian! It'll be interesting that's for sure.

The modules "a pack of 8 cells" in the NX are very different to the Prius modules "a pack of 6 cells" in that they are metal cased against the Prius plastic case. The Prius type plastic modules are used in virtually all the other Toyota/Lexus hybrids making them readily available, but the NX modules are difficult to find. The NX battery does share the same total number of cell (240), and the same terminal voltage of 288 volts as the GS450H, but has 30 modules "of 8 cells" against the GS that has 40 modules "of 6 cells" The plastic modules of the 6 cell variety will not fit in the NX battery cases. The NX has 3 battery cases each with it's own cooling fan, against one case, and fan for the GS. The extra cooling is possibly the reason for the NX's battery longevity. John.

No they are specially made aluminium. They just don't look like cheap stuff MB use. https://lexusenthusiast.com/2018/11/02/the-story-of-the-lexus-es-samurai-inspired-hadori-trim/

Having moved away from Lexus, I can confirm that Lexus build quality and reliability is second to none. Big balls going Alfa 👍 Enjoy 👍

Good luck, but I think it won’t be long till your back, knowing the trouble my cousin has with his alpha reliability and lack of quality Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Looks like you don’t give me no choice:))

Indeed Ratty! Best of luck with it all!!

Me, Cezar and a mate called Karl off insta will be there. All sporting F badges and noisy exhausts.

You will have to pardon my English, @Flytvr... 🤗

Hi Guy’s I won’t be able to make this, hope you all enjoy your day out ooopp North ☺️ My new found single status has forced me into the the arms of a female property developer who’s making me develop / rebuild holiday cottages in Tenby.... that’s West Wales to the uninitiated 😂 Mind you gunning the Transit over the Brecon’s is just as much fun as the RCF...... ok maybe not.... Big Rat 🐀

It passed its M. O. T aswell with both air and spring suspension last Oct

To be honest I've never know it before but like I've said I've drove it for over a year and over 15k miles and it's been sound upto now, I always had intention to change them over to all springs but other things always cropped up.

Destroyed one of those Alfa ‘Quatrofromagio’ things yesterday. They don’t like the wet 😂

Is it safe? It sounds rather unusual...

No it doesn't.

That's because people drive differently and mine isn't exactly a great example because I do a lot of town driving with a lot of stop/start journeys. Also, because I'm self-employed I can be in and out of the house three or four times a day for work, but the timings always seem to be such that the engine is cold, so more fuel used there, plus I may well be out with my figures - I did say it's been a long time since a) we had the car, and b) since I actually took notice. My advice? Don't get bogged down in figures - just enjoy the fact that my European road trip cost half of what it would have done on petrol; enjoy the fact that in the examples above from fuelly, I only spent £817 to get much further than those other guys who spent over £1,100; enjoy the fact that every time you fill up you'll have a big grin on your face - especially if there's a petrol shortage

Welcome Randy. Lexus warranty in UK is for 3 years, Do not know where you are, but if you bought it from a Lexus Dealer, I`d take it back and ask them to fix it free of charge. Good luck.

John, I will get it next week! May be I can find cheaper stuff around but these are Lexus genuine parts so will get them! Thanks

Forgive me, but I feel you being A bit unrealistic with the standard of interior quality Lexus should be providing. The es F sport with the Takumi pack is a circa £43k car, sounds a lot of money until you spec up a comparable rival model. An E class hybrid of a comparable spec would be circa £53k, but the Lexus should still have a better interior? Add in the exclusivity of the low sales volume of the ESand it starts to look good value.

He doesn't, looking forward to what he thinks of his new car.

Not sure @Flytvr owns a Lexus anymore 😺

I'm trying to locate what has failed and if it's an fixable as I'm 50miles away from home and whether I can fix it to get back or if the air suspension has gone completely, I've looked in the manual and it says any system failure on the air ride and it will stay in the normal ride position and it hasn't its completely flat on the rear. Obviously I don't want to drive it home in this position causing more problems. Herbie said check fuses/relays but it doesn't mention in the manual if there is any to check.

Don’t worry at 165 plus vat I will not be buying from Lexus, The “self entitled” view you speak of was the price quoted on their website based upon my part number in the SD card Off to ebay for my maps I think Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I`m not serious mi amigo.I am more than happy with my GS450H . I WAS SITTING IN MY VILLA IN ANDALUCIA,IT WAS RAINING AND COLD AND i WAS IN REALITY BEING MISCHIEVOUS and flagged it up to invite comment. I perceive that there is something not quite right with the car and its advertisement,but I cannot put my finger on it. No doubt that others members will play Sherlock Holmes and solve the mystery for me.. Today the sun is out, the temperatures have risen and all is once again well with the world!!

Bite his hand off Vlad! Seems good price from Lexus.

It wouldn't work - the lift motor and gas struts couldn't cope with the extra weight. Up to getting this hybrid, all our cars for the last 15 years have been converted to LPG and all we've done is to carry a can of Holts TyreWeld (or similar). This can cope with small stuff but if we had a blowout or something in the sidewall we'd just let the breakdown people deal with that. And, contrary to popular belief, the tyreweld doesn't harm the tyres - just lazy tyre fitters who don't want to get their hands dirty spreading that myth. This is our 85L tank with centrally mounted filling point (easy to fill from either side)

Now with pictures: 4 pictures: 1. To make access easier once the install was complete, I cut the boot liner. 2. Showing the rear camera and how it fits to the number place 3 and 4, showing the setup and the location of where the items are.

Ok, unsure if i can post links, so search ebay for auction number 323364525091 this is a remote relay. I stuck the clicker on the dash. and yes brought the naviks direct from the US.

Take a look here which may also help: https://lexus.7zap.com/en/eu/lexus+rx/521220/mcu35r-awagkw/4/8401/ Worth checking all your fuses if you have multiple issues - not only the fuses boxes in the cabin but also in the engine bay.

I reckon my 2006 Harrier should do pretty well. Very few toys to break, smaller engine that's practically bulletproof, no air suspension. I'm still paying off the credit card debt from owning a BMW E39 with a big V8 in it. Sticking with Toyota forever now!

I don't think there is much to argue about. 300h is just not right engine for me, actually I completely agree there might be many people for whom it is just right, after all people buy BMW 520d etc. The problem has always been that Lexus does not provide alternative - if you want to stick with Lexus you have to go for 300h. Well OK one can go for LC500h or LS500h, but that is not realistic choice. Secondly, what I have realised even more after short spin in ES - when you have such an engine like 300h, FWD or RWD really makes no difference. I always argue RWD point more from principal point of view... and yes in theory even 300h with RWD will have better balance, like RC300h feel very nice into and out of the corners. However, realistically there are so little power in 300h, that it makes very little difference in real life which wheels are driving. The argument can be made - I should not even try what I know I am not going to like, kind of stupid if you know what outcome is going to be. But to be fair that is what I do - least time I booked test drive for BMW 530e the dealer called me back and said, you can have it this weekend in a form of 520d, mid-next week 530d or 6 weeks later 530e. And I said - fine I will wait 6 weeks, because there is no point for me to "test-drive" 520d. I can go and just sit in one to check build and design, but I want to drive car with specific engine. When it comes to Lexus.. again there are no choice of even waiting. Ohhh.. and the last point to add. Regardless how old, rattly, high miles my car is after sitting in ES300h and going back to IS250 it felt literally like going from new Toyota, back into old Lexus. Take it as you wish, but I would rather want to feel like going from old Lexus into new Lexus after spending £43,000.

You shouldn't connect Bluetooth and wifi at the same time, performance will be unpredictable, usually it's one or the other. As jbi507 says, connect using Bluetooth, enable tethering on the phone and then everything will work fine.