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Correct. In fact the key isn't programmed, the vehicle ECU is programmed to the key. Try holding down the unlock button for 20 seconds.

the flashing of the dash lights for me is the indication that the battery is quiet flat i have an IS300h and when the battery has gone flat the flickering dash lights are the first sign i see.

There is this on ebay: "LEXUS RX AIR SUSPENSION STRUT TOP REFURBISHING SERVICE, FAST TURN AROUND"

Well Dan, your post has taken people down memory lane, and it's not such a bad place to go!

Thanks for the mention of my post. I will be posting my write-up within the next few days which will be for the IS250 but I will be explaining the installation process that applies to any car.

Hi Mike. Great choice. My Mercury Grey car has the same interior. I bought my 2017 Premier a few weeks ago and it’s streets ahead of my 2015 version. Take a look at the Lexus video on YouTube about driving a hybrid. Some very good advice there.

Nice car Mike. Welcome . Jonathan

Afternoon all, Whilst perusing the offers in my local Aldi, I noticed a twin pack of anti theft key wallets for the bargain price of £4.99. This seemed too good to refuse, so I took the plunge. In the car park, I put my key into one of the wallets and then tried to open the door. Failure - it opened! I then tried the key in the second of the two pockets and success. There was no interest from my car at all no matter how close I dangled the wallet enclosed key. At home, the main and spare key are in the centre of the house, so they "should" be safe from ne'er do wells, but when I'm away on business it would be good to have a little more security. For £4.99, you can't really go wrong. For some reason, my photo of the packaged items won't upload, but I have attached one showing which pocket the key should be put in for maximum invisibility. Obviously the key ring came off before I put the key away!

Hello Mike. Welcome to LOC. A great looking car you have there, and something I am sure you will like more each day you drive it. Lexus are legendary for there reliability so you should have no concerns on that front. Enjoy your driving. John.

There is another thread about this I have brought one of these https://vod.ebay.co.uk/vod/FetchOrderDetails?itemid=113131215767&transid=2022336552001&ul_noapp=true and will be attempting to fit in the New Year. Wiring diagram that came with it looks fairly straight forward,see attached. Will let you know how I get on.. IMG_20191231_0001.pdf

Welcome to Europe's Leading Lexus Club! Please Enjoy!

I am still waiting to hear from the insurance, but the car is booked in to have the work done on the 06/01/2020 if it is not written off. A loan car "Mercedes C class" is also arranged for that date. My understanding is that even if the car is written off I will have a loan car anyway until I receive a settlement check, and then for a further 5 days. As soon as I know any more I will post it here. John.

Update on this. I have ordered the antennae and belt from Lexus. Pricey but I don't really mind if it does the job. It's an odd one, the car was so cheap but is so reliable I'm OK with spending a bit on it when required. Hopefully it should arrive in the next day or two. Also, you probably know that I do use this car as my daily and as SWMBO currently doesn't require a vehicle it's also the family car. So off we went for our regular seasonal trip to Blackpool Paris for a couple of nights and the car performed flawlessly. Never missed a beat there and back. I don't think the economy figures are too bad either considering it was 5 up with a boot full of luggage. I had better on the way back from Inverness but that was mainly due to the cameras all along the A9. Anyhoo, my little experiment to see if you can run this sort of motor on a day to day basis continues

This is the remote that came with the car. Unfortunately there is no part number I can see or trace anywhere. Hope it helps.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/12/30/freeview-television-goes-across-britain-unusual-weather/ Sky News were reporting that these 'atmospheric conditions' were also affecting DAB reception. Looks like the issues were more in the South of the UK, but even so this may not have helped matters over the past couple of days. I've never had any issues with DAB reception on my NX but yesterday on the M4 I lost signal a couple of times, albeit only for a few seconds each time.

Many thanks Ray. Best of luck with the Project. Other Members will I am sure be able to offer assistance.

Sorry 1st post should be km not miles. Still a fair few miles though!

It could be coincidence but the cruise stalk is on the steering wheel. If the cruise light on the dash is illuminated then that would suggest the cruise stalk is connected correctly. So in 'Drive' above 30 mph if the stalk when pushed up and down to set the speed doesn't work that suggests the contacts in the stalk could be the issue. If you're okay disconnecting the battery and removing the steering wheel with a suitable puller then it's a fairly quick task to swap the stalk for a good secondhand part.

Thank you for the info! I will check them out and search for some other breakers. I saw one of retroplay's threads about it (below), but I didn't see any threads on CL or here where functionality was confirmed, do you have a link to that by any chance? https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc430-2nd-gen-2001-2010/808258-do-your-side-mirrors-automatically-retract.html To clarify, are you saying he was able to just plug in the mirrors and the UK button below (which I was actually able to find aleady) and it just worked? I thought for sure I would have to run wires.

Looks like a 12V battery issue. Can you get access to a volt meter and see what the battery voltage is at rest? I believe 12.4v is required, but someone more knowledgeable can hopefully guide here. If it's low, can you borrow a trickle charger, charge the battery up and see how it is?

Welcome Ray. Did you buy privately or from a Motor Dealer ?

Following a number of recommendations from fellow members, I have replaced all four of my tyres with a set of Michelin Cross Climate's. I have to say that I am really very pleased that I did. I have had them for just over one month now and the difference over what was on the car previously is quite amazing. A big thank you to all who provided input. Happy New Year to everyone.

If the battery has been disconnected or discharged the windows will need resetting. They will not work from the drivers door only from there own switches. Open the window to about half way then close keeping the switch operated for about five seconds after the window is closed. The windows should then work from the drivers door. John.

Wow loads has been done since the last update.... Power steering bottle, bracket and pipes sorted! Filled with fresh toyota fluid. AEM afr gauge wired up to the AEM v2 ecu. Fuel pump wiring completed, nice simple circuit set up, relay with 12volts ignition feed which then supplies the pump with 12volts direct from the battery and a cut off switch installed in the cup holder. I did have an issue with this, the 12volts ignition feed for the relay which i took from the cigarette lighter is not good enough.... on cranking the engine the 12volts is cut causing fuel pressure to drop! I changed this to 12volts ignition from the barrel. You can see in the video here the pressure drop as the voltage drops out... The noise you can hear is air in the fuel system when its 1st been switched on 20191223_192317.mp4 20191226_124403.mp4 (Some reason im having a problem loading the pictures onto here, some will but most wont) Then it was time to load the base calibration onto the AEM.... more problems. I was only getting 4volts at the AEM power wires. Very strange reading which changed whilst pulling other plugs from the patch harness... anyway cut a very long story short and after some very late nights working on it it turned out to be a sticking relay causing a volt drop which the AEM takes its power from! Base cal now loaded and little things set like battery offset for the injectors, TPS and timing sync. Finally fitted the cover to the ecu box in its new location.... Was then time to attempt a start, 1st attempt it started and stalled, just needed a small adjustment to the throttle. 20191226_132016.mp4 Then 2nd attempt...... 20191226_132152.mp4 SHE RUNS!!!!!!! Bit groggy and hunting but it soon levelled out! Im absolutely over the moon, so much hard work, blood, sweat and tears has gone into this to get to this point!! Ive had some help from a car friend of mine who knows the AEM like the back of his hand! This was a massive step to me in this project after completely rebuilding this engine and extending the wiring harness i was worried i would have issues. During that you can hear a metallic type chinging noise, this worried me pretty bad.... The huge SPEC clutch assembly was catching on the bell housing inspection cover, so ive made a small adjustment to that and its all ok. Thank god it was just that!!

It’s under warranty so will get it booked into dealers.

Merry Christmas

I am going through this process at the moment also. As yet I do not know if my car will be written off, but I feel it is very likely, and my car will get a Cat N rating. Insurance damage categories have changed. Cat C and D have gone, and we now have Cat S and N. Cat S is for structurally damage, but repairable, and Cat N is for no structural damage, and repairable John

Two days ago my 6 CD changer became jammed so today I planned to take it apart. I decided first to get some info and came across the problem on the US site. A couple of people suggested pressing the eject button and at the same time giving the dash a wack on the right, sure enough the CDs came popping out and all is fine! That's why the LOC is brilliant both here and the US!

Ultimately I'm with @Shahporhere. People are allowed to move away from Lexus and explain why! It is true that I don't recognise many of the criticisms, partly because I just don't have the same issue (I actually find the NX supremely comfortable) and partly because some of the things stated just don't bother me (I rarely if ever get the drone and it just so happens that it doesn't bother me in the slightest). I do recognise others. The infotainment is unnecessarily complex - yes, you get used to it, but it's still an irritation because it could and should be better. I do think also that it is unfair to compare what is ultimately a model brought out in 2014 with one brought out this or last year. That's not like with like. (These things are rarely like with like anyway as the way Lexus does equipment is so different from most competitors). It is also entirely correct to point out that we are lucky to be fishing for cars in this particular pond, but I could be guilty too of apparently minor inconveniences putting me off. I really like Volvo (I had four of them before Lexus) but I find the new designs too boxy; I just find the BMW brand too brash; and I think Audis are too common (this has practical consequences, such as a much less personal service at dealers). I can't justify the price of Jaguars or Mercs, nor Land Rovers (which seem to spent half their time in the repair shop anyway). Anyone loyal to those brands might equally well be holding their hands up in horror! To be frank, if I were to go anywhere else it would probably be to Toyota, for familiarity and reliability!

I’ve always found car brands willing to let me have a car for a reasonable time. And if they won’t, my money goes elsewhere!

I have to say, I really enjoy my NX. Sure its not in the same "image" as a german rival but I look beyond the badge. - Infotainment system. Yes its a generation behind but it plays music/radio, navigation gets me from a to be. It may not have fancy graphics or a hundred settings, it just does what it says on the tin. - Performance. I have the 200t f-sport. It is quick if you can drive it properly and it does suffer a bit of torque steer if you are not aware of it. It is also thirsty, around 21 mpg in town driving, around 27 mpg suburban and around 35 mpg on motorways. I did drive a hybrid but that was sooooooo much slower. I would probably have looked at other cars, had I tested that before the T. - Build quality. Its a Lexus, the reputation says it all really. Compare reliability to BMW and Mercedes. Which car will spend more time in the shop? - Prestige. How many Range Rover/Land Rovers, BMWs, Audis, Jaguars, Mercedes are there on the road compared to Lexus? Are you a "follow the crowd" or do you want individuality? -Drive. I have no issues with the drive. Its quiet, smooth and comfortable. I have driven it on all roads, A, B and motorway and it glides. I haven't noticed much roll in corners on day to day rides or perhaps I am just used to it. I do think the quality of the tyres also sway my view but then I put decent summer and winters on the car. -Overall. Yes its not perfect but its very good IMHO.

Who told you this and how did they determine it is fine? Batteries can and do fail dramatically, fine one day struggle the next.

Thanks guys for the reply’s it was Lexus Carlisle I felt they were dragging there heels a bit as there was a bit of uncertainty about who was financially responsible ie warranty sales or service so I emailed Lexus customer relations and that seemed to make them more agreeable since then it’s been good service. At the end of the day the faults were with the car when I bought it so I wasn’t interested who paid I just wanted it fixed. Can’t say they have been unreasonable just a bit slow perhaps. what dealer was it where you swapped your car? really like the 200 it’s a great car to drive . It’s also a cheaper alternative to the hybrid by a good 5-7k and as I do a low mileage it made good sense still miss my ls 430 don’t think they will ever make a car like that again

Sorry to hear about the problems. I had a couple of problems with an approved gen 3 RX450 bought from a Lexus dealer but they were idiots about it and wouldn't fix the most significant issue so I ended up exchanging it for a better model. I had expected better and will be more wary next time. How do you find the 200 model? Quite a rarity.

Had a gen 2 is250 and my gen is200t. Both I found brilliant cars. The is200t engine is awesome I found, it includes good performance, pretty good mpg and quiet. Engine only uses 1200rpm while cruising at 30mph. Only reason I've gone hybrid is I wanted an 4wd SUV but didnt want another brand or diesel and unfortunately Lexus dropped the Nx200t

I’m not sure what thread you’ve been reading, but it isn’t the one I started. If you want to show where I’ve rejected a ‘whole brand of car’ based on ‘two trivial aspects’, feel free to quote those parts. The car has been changed because the seat caused me severe back pain on every journey. The other features such as the gearbox and the infotainment were not ‘trivial’, but I could’ve lived with them, even if they spoilt my driving enjoyment. There were certainly no sleepless nights. When I sat in an RX, it felt in a whole different league, but was over the £40k tax bracket. However, Lexus IS a car company, it’s not the chosen transport of Jesus *****. As I’ve said previously, if you’re happy to tootle around in your car turning your radio up every time you need to accelerate to join a motorway safely, good for you. Personally, I value my back and it is entirely my fault that I looked at the Lexus manual and assumed that the premium pack included lumbar support. It is my fault that I didn’t spend more time in the car and play around with things and it’s my fault I thought I could live with the CVT drone. i consider life to short to make comprises on something as expensive as a car, so I moved it on. I am thrilled with my BMW. The new interior is amazing, it’s a great drive and feels a generation ahead of the Lexus. This will now be my last post on the forum so I wish you all well with your cars

A BMW. I have to say, the interior and infotainment make the Lexus feel very last generation. It really is superb

Agree with this. I thought it was more down to the engine but whatever the high revving noise is just embarrassing. It's like you're overtaking in a 1 litre car thrashing the socks off it. After driving an RX which was just quiet, effortless and fast I do miss that. (Shame the newer RXs are too big for my garage.)

Absolutely. I had the NX for 24hrs, but that consisted of driving it home and around the local area. It didn't have the premium pack, so I dismissed some of the issues with the seat as I thought the higher spec would give lumbar support. I picked up on the CVT scream, but thought that I'd get used to it (I didn't). It's not that it only happens if your really pushing on. Overtaking on a dual carriageway or going up a steep hill was bordering on embarrassing with the high revs. The inform system is so Labour intensive it simply can't be used on the move. Lexus need to take a really good look at their system and compare it to rivals. They are leagues behind Audi and BMW. It's a shame as I like the look of the car and intended to keep it for a while. But life is too short so away it went.

That's a shame. What are you moving onto instead? I understand your reasoning and went through something similar myself earlier this year. For the previous four years I'd had an Avensis Tourer, just a 2.0 diesel but it was a useful tool - lots of space inside and plenty of torque even if it wasn't the quietest or most sophisticated thing. When the time came to change I went for the 1.8 petrol version of the same model, but it was a rather joyless car and within 2-3 months I was wishing I hadn't bought it. It had no torque, which seems to be an issue with many modern, non-turbo petrol engines. Fortunately I'd put enough of a deposit down not to end up with significant negative equity, but I lost a substantial amount having had it for just a year, due to the difference between main dealer retail price and part-ex value plus a year's natural depreciation. Oddly enough, seeing an NX was what got me thinking about buying a Lexus as a replacement for the Avensis - I prefer the look of it to the current RX. However, I fairly quickly realised that it wouldn't have the space I was used to with the Avensis and the use of a 4-cyl engine concerned me. To match the practicality, roominess and torque of the Avensis diesel I went for a previous-gen RX. Luckily I'm a bit of a Luddite so the rather basic infotainment system doesn't bother me, and at least I get a stick to control it. However, a friend was showing me what the set-up in his new Jaguar E-Pace can do and it puts the Lexus system to shame. The above being said, I'd still be interested to give the NX a go if I get offered one as a courtesy car. If they update it with the new RAV4 engine then maybe it would be a better bet? The NX's size would be fine for us when my children are driving and don't need ferrying around so much. Isn't it difficult on a test drive to pick up the everyday things that can make or break life with a car? As you also suggest, there is the tendency to overlook potential issues or think you'll be able to live with them, but the opposite ends up being the case.

Certainly worth checking out both series but for me the series IV has a much better chassis for better handling and ride quality. Improved in every way. The series III was just a minor update mechanically on the series II, which itself was out of date. Series III also designed/launched at the low point in Toyota reliability together with poor engine designs that suffer carbon build up, VVTi issues, timing chain wear - the old 450h suffers transmission and battery issues along with similar engine issues.

have you considered a later model MK3 GS300? ..they are quicker and most importantly have more torque to shift the weight of the car when compared to the GS250's engine. but thats not saying the 250's engine is not adequate..mpg figures are near identical to the 250 aswell.. road tax is higher for the 300 but initial purchase price is cheaper so money saved on initial purchase price can be used to pay for road tax and still have more for a holiday ... worth test driving one for the fun of it to compare to the GS250 ... i also feel the MK3 GS's have a better build quality than the MK4's in my opinion but that's just me..

Bristol have one of those 2-litre RXs for sale as well. They seem to be a bit of a curio, apparently 238bhp from a turbocharged '4'. I wonder if the turbo is sufficient to give it the torque that modern multivalve engines lack? It strikes me it would have to work hard to haul the RX around and that economy would suffer as a result. First week in with my new 64-reg Luxury, all very good so far. Doing everything I hoped it would and my first tankful worked out at 33.5mpg. Cleaned it up today and no nasty surprises, indeed I was impressed at how tidy it is.

Not been on this forum that long but gotta love the nature of a lot of the postings here. Lots of pontificating about maximum speeds, driving styles etc. Compare this to the German car forums which are inevitably concentrating on failed sensors, oil peeing out over the drive, engines chomping up parts of the induction system, wiring looms failing, breakdowns on the motorway, lumpy idling, engine lights coming on etc etc etc. Guess when your car (touching wood) is very reliable you need to find things to talk about!

Simply brilliant post - thank you! Reading your post make me love my car even more...

I`d give that essay an A++ No more to be said.

Long post...please bear with me: I think that people may be missing the real points here and there seems to be too much splitting of hairs on top trumps and technicalities that really don't figure at all in the marketing side. Lexus doesn't make marketing decisions based on straw poles about what people say that they might or might not want. They make marketing decisions much like any equivalent car manufacturer, based on sales figures particularly those from the largest markets. They do not care, or even think about how this might affect those "loyal" lexus customers who (like me) mourn the passing of possibly their best all round saloon, the GS. Whatever opinions are bandied about on personal preference, the fact remains, sales figures to one side, that the 3.0 V6 and the 3.5V6 were amongst the most reliable petrol engines on the planet by all measured assessments over the years and that they offered the best compromise of economy to performance. Whether we need a 3.5 V6 is irrelevant otherwise we'd all be conned into buying the absolutely godawful plethora of turbo/supercharged 1.5 litre direct injection disposable monstrosities. Before anyone gets hurt by that remark, it's incontrovertible that issues such as petrol dilution of oil sumps from direct injection cold running (cold start) foibles, equals more frequent oil changes and less engine protection, and that's before we even get to a puny little 1.2 or 1.5 motor, lugging about 1 to 1.5 tonnes, stressed to the nines to achieve over 200BHP and high torque figures. All the evidence from Honda and Ford shows beyond all reasonable doubt that these engines are problematic, short lived (by comparison with non-direct injection normally aspirated larger engines) and as such the carbon footprint over time is only likely to be higher. You can argue either way and try to justify your points but for some of us, we don't care if technology provides an alternative. The simple fact is that many of us don't care for those alternatives, in terms of pride of ownership, of likely longevity (most of these cars are frequently sold as disposable assets with shorter lifespans likely which helps boost car manufacturers towards their future model sales) or of the driving experience. And please, if anyone is tempted to respond by "telling" me what I would or wouldn't like or should like...don't go there! Some of the remarks (no names but we know who I refer to) on this thread have been downright arrogant, uncalled for, rude and aggressive. Some folk need to grasp the fact that we are all entitled to our opinions so to call people "stupid" is bang out of order on what is usually a more gentlemanly and better mannered forum. Might I humbly suggest that we try, at least, to keep it that way? There's a hell of a lot positive about the normally aspirated straight 6 or Vee 6. It's inherently smoother, better balanced, and in anything over 2.5 litre upwards, produces ample torque and power whilst remaining under-stressed, by and large bombproof reliability wise, simpler, and over time, likely to have far better longevity and durability. Some of us want a 3 litre or 3.5 because we prefer a lazier larger, less stressed engine that makes adequate power. This isn't about 0-60 top trumps (I couldn't care less what a 1.5 turbo 4 pot does the 0-60 in...really, it's an irrelevance) because any modern 3 litre normally aspirated car will have more than enough shove for safe overtaking and relaxed long legged motorway cruising, or for lugging loads up steep hills. Personally, I wished that I had kept my GS300. It was far and away the best car (and one of the better driving experiences) I ever owned, and I have owned fast German saloons and estates. What this whole thread boils down to is that Lexus are discontinuing (in the UK at least where sales figures of around 350 cars per year make no sense to them) possibly the best all rounder that they've ever made. Whether it is the "best" is irrelevant to them or to us, as sales figures are what it's all about. The GS was never picked up in anywhere like the same numbers of the target audience....executive company car fleets, because 1) it was sold at too high a cost compared with the economies of scale of BMW/Audi/Mercedes to compete and because 2) it appealed only to those buying (rather than leasing or as a company vehicle) to the over 40's due to initial purchase price and insurance. Take those main contributing factors to low sales away and compare the car like for like and it many ways it betters the competition, in reliability, comfort, finish and refinement. Performance figure comparisons belong on paper. The driving experience is what it's all about and sadly, part of that was lost when the switch to hybrids came along due to the weight penalty it brought with it and most certainly to the switch to fwd. Lexus do a good job (except I'd argue with the CT which is has imho appalling ride quality) and have made cars like the GS and even the RX hide their mass well. People in the market for the GS I don't think will want the LS. It's that much larger and costlier to buy and run, new or used, plus costs more to insure, and in the case of the hybrid, has a pathetic boot size for such a large car. The irony of all of this is that the best selling Lexus in the UK also remains the worst Lexus in the UK (the CT) which is beaten in just about every area except internal finish by its competitors and especially on ride comfort, which goes to prove that none of these decisions are made on what a great car the GS was. It was, and remains a great car. So where does that leave the customers who hanker after a 3.5 V6? Well, Lexus are mistaken if they think for a second that people are likely to stick with them and accept a 300h or the underpowered and rather rough running lump that the 250 is. I wouldn't. Those customers will be lost to Lexus but that doesn't really matter to them because they only amounted to 350-odd annually anyway compared with 21,000 for the RX, or even more with the CT. Hard facts, because running a successful business is about profit and reinvestment. Are electric-only cars really viable presently? No. You might like them an want to argue the opposite, but once you look into what viability entails, none of the arguments I've so far heard bear up to close scrutiny. Not if you do loads of miles and not based on purchase costs and most definitely NOT on carbon footprint. You have to look at the efficiency of getting electric from burning gas (where a majority of our electricity generation still comes from) in terms of the generation process, the distribution (and distribution losses) and charging losses (battery efficiency) and motive efficiency (motors and transmission). Petrol likely still remains more efficient and we will not have national capacity for a switch to electric any time soon, by all official estimates, not for well over a decade or two. So should you feel bad about running a 3 litre V6 until such time as things change? No, of course not. From every aspect including durability/ longevity and whole life carbon footprint it remains a valid choice. Sadly though, the powers that be disagree and will tax the behind off you should you ignore them and decide to buy one. Think about how that affects sales too. The reasons for people buying into electric-only are more due to the worries about particulates (valid and understandable), Nox (ditto), about government subsidies and about tax breaks making them suitable for urbanites and semi-urbanites who do relatively low annual mileages where cost of ownership may be lower over any given annual period. Not all of us want an electric only car (I certainly don't, at least not yet) and I'll be honest and say I only went hybrid because the car I wanted was still offered as a V6, and over the years, I have loved every 6 cylinder motor I've owned from my 1970's Triumph 2000TC through to recent cars like the BMW and Lexus models owned and because I wanted the extra grunt. We also have a butterfly-friendly Honda i-vtec and it wouldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding unless revved until the valves cry out for mercy. It was a decision of the head. A V6 is a decision of the heart as much as the head.

For any Luxury Japanese car to sell well they need to be significantly cheaper then German. That is exactly how LS became staple in US... it sold like 40% cheaper like for like vs. S-Class. The difference was that in US Germans could not compete much, the tariffs and weak Yen were favourable for Lexus. However, how they stay on to - is buy offering rage of cars... not only LS400 forever... Any Lexus would sell in UK, but they need to be priced just above Toyota/Nissan/Mazda and not just below BMW/MB and AUDI. In UK they simply do not have brand recognition to be able to command premium - but that is not bad outcome. Lexus is generally just fancy Toyota, so to sell cars with say 10-15% premium is already better margins for Toyota. @i-s Q60 3.0T you say... Well I could live with how it looks from outside, but inside is outright ugly mess. Maybe akin - "The M has the exact same overhead console as my Nissan Leaf does. The leaf is a very cheaply built car and it's just about acceptable in it - it is totally unacceptable in a "premium" car. " So... no thanks. I love how RC looks, even more how it looks and feels inside. @Jamesf1 - I am not pretending to be some sort of genius, but you don't know what I do for a living either so attacking my abilities scores you no points. ES is junk car in any shape or form because it is FWD.. even if they do ES350 I don't care. ES350 AWD... that is more interesting, but not for me. My negative comments re 300h are more general for entire range. Toyota is the biggest manufacturer in the world, not the second biggest... yet they introduced cars like Lexus IS220d.... "sure... they know what they doing it was genius decision, went exactly as expected.. no issues there - just worst Lexus ever made... by far!". I cannot say for sure that introducing say RC350 would be great decision, but I am sure they would not loose money on it.. even in UK. They might not gain much either... so I guess they can afford to be lazy about it.

Twas a joke, it wasn't serious

I currently have a 2016 NX 200T and just seen a good offer on a delivery mileage RX 200 T. Am just wondering how this engine will fare in a bigger car. In the NX it is very brisk and potent. What do people think