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  1. Thanks for the attention and comments given to the thread above concerning my earlier critique. I make just two points as a reply. 1. IS200 SE auto metallic = £22k, IS250 (as close a spec as possible for comparison) = £30k No matter how good the new vehicle is, how preety it is, how well it drives, even the diesel version as yet untried; I, and probably thousands of other people, can't afford a new IS250 but can afford an IS200. Lexus have probably walked away from my business and that of many others. I want to own a car like the IS200, it is the best car I have ever had. (I'm on my 3rd since 1999). That's what I meant by losing the plot. 2. If Lexus and TMC are so market-aware how come we got the IS300SC (I owned a bad one for a short while and lost a shedfull of cash) and the IS200SC with no Auto option? And how many of these vehicles do you see on the road? And here endeth the 2nd lesson.
  2. To Koshime Your car looks great, pictures on the other topic make it look good, may you enjoy it a little more each day! However, not wishing in any way to rain on your parade (or anyone else's who have one already or are buying a new IS), I think that Lexus, to a certain degree, has lost the plot. The thing that makes the IS200 a superb car is that it is different to anything in its class and represents good value for money. The one thing that it isn't is an 'also-ran'. It just does not compete with Beamer 3's and Merc C's because it is different, no matter how hard the motoring press or anyone else attempt to draw comparisons. In many ways it is a 'unique' vehicle at an acceptable value-for-money price level (£20-22k new)and with a clientele that seeks the individuality of a prestige marque with a car that stands apart by appearance, power unit, build quality and standard kit. The IS250 by comparison does not have and is unlikely to attain the same carefully contrived status as the 200. It does not fit in the same market niche. It is considerably higher speced. It has a bigger motor. The appearance, while undoubtedly very attractive, and of course somewhat a question of personal taste, is not as stylish as the 200 because it has a number of design features that are similar to other cars, including the body shape concept. It is loaded with nice touches, examples of practical and elegant design, standard equipment that other comparable makes don't have and the build quality and finish that are a given with Lexus. The key issue is now that the new IS is considerably more expensive than the 200. It has probably been taken out of the range of many who would or have bought an IS200. It enters the market as an élite voiture like the GS, not as the IS200 was presented - as a good quailty alternative to a number of 'popular' makes at £21,000 OTR. I am still curious as to why Lexus saw the need to drop the IS200 in favour of the IS250, why the engine change from a solid, straight-6 to an ally V6. Also why a 4-cyl diesel with no auto option. It makes you wonder if Lexus actually know who their customers are?
  3. It makes you wonder what the S2000 has got? Winner two years in a row. Have never been in one but compare it with IS200. 4 banger, manual only, black leather or black leather with red trim, big red button on dash (what for?) about as sophisticated as a 'Focus'. Then take a look at Honda's website and compare it with Lexus and the whole of their promotional machine. Begs the question why isn't the IS no.1?
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