Has this post gone slightly off topic, Steve was only asking a simple question which many of us are also wondering about. You order a car that is under 40k list price at time of order which is a fixed price, but before you get the car the manufactures increase the list price to over 40k. Lexus knew full well that the cars wouldn't be registered before the price increase. So you have a car that you ordered and payed for under 40k fixed list price remember. but the government use the new list price. Am I right or wrong