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Steve, I don’t know if Auto Glym Ceramic Coating would be causing your sensor problem but I got my ceramic coating applied professionally by my Lexus dealer. But why I am looking at it as a culprit is because ceramic coatings are a new process in waxing a car and if you think of it it has Harding process in its chemical DNA and although it does bead the rain and water it may be hardening the rubber around the sensors which may not helping the sensors. Look I’m not saying this is the cause of all our problems but it may be the cause. What you would advise to do is try and blow the excess water away from the sensors.... make them as dry as possible and then spray the silicone or a light covering of Vaseline. It also may be a simple problem of faulty sensors but lets us know how you get on and best of luck.

Lashed here today and yesterday and I took my Lexus ES out today and no annoying sensor warning and lights flashing....so far so good. So the silcon must be working. Steve, did you get any kind of Cermic coating done on your car?....I'm just trying to track what might be causing this problem because I got a Cermic Coating put on my car immediately before I took purchase of it and I'm thinking this may be causing the problem

Don’t get me wrong but it could be a faulty sensor but it seems strange that the common theme in this problem is a lot of us have had Cermic coating done on our cars. Frank you are totally right about the Lexus brand because I had Volkswagens and Audi’s in the past and they wouldn’t have had the reliability or anything like the driving experience as the Lexus......my latest Lexus ES is just a dream to drive (just a shade to large...lol)

I do think that the cermic coatings may have a detrimental effect on these sensors....I think it may harden the rubber seals

Frank the Hornet, I would suggest that the next dry day you get, that you go round each of the sensors and either get the lend or buy a high speed blower (I use a small blower that I have for drying the car after washing it). Then you can follow that up with a thin layer of vaseline I phoned my Lexus dealer and spoke to the maintenance manager and he said that they knew about this problem and it was also appearing on the new UX and some of the NX and told me if I ever had the problem again that they would bring the car in to the workshop and put a high speed blower on the sensors and blow any water that would be around them. In my case I think the fault may have been caused by having a cermic coating put on at the dealers in that I think that it may have have hardened the rubber seals around the sensors. Like you I have used vaseline and it seems to work

To be truthful I didn't want to as this only really happened during lockdown plus it wasn't happening all the time. Its the type of thing that I know if I took it to them it wouldn't happen, like that creaking floor board that only happens when you least expect to do and then when you get someone in to fix it it suddenly disappears. I did phone the Dealers and they booked the car in to get a look at it and then..... it suddenly went away. I phoned the Dealers and spoke to their maintenance manager and told him about the sensors and said to him that it had disappeared. He said that this problem had been reported around the country and the fault also was appearing in other models like the UX. He said if it happened again then he told me to bring it up and they would blow air around the sensors and that usually clears the problem....he said the problem was a build up of rain water around the sensors and once you blow the water out it immediately disappears. That's when I came onto this forum to see if anyone had this problem. So here I am trying to get to the problem or the solution. If it gets really bad then I will definitely take it back to them but at the moment it is only intermittent...once every couple of months. I have driven about 4 Lexuses over the last number of years and I have never really had problems with them although in saying that about 10 yrs ago I had a Lexus IS which had rusty alloy wheels and when I took it back to the dealer (the same dealer) they replaced all the alloys and in fact they replaced 3 sets of alloys, so I know the dealer will sort me out....I just don't want to put up with any hassle or doing without this fabulous car for any length of time. Also I will probably be changing it for an EV in about a years time...maybe a Tesla or maybe the ID4 or maybe the Lexus UX electric. My son in law drives a fabulous Golf GTE which gets about over a hundred mpg...yes, don't believe me.....he drives the car to work on pure electric about 20 miles, plugs it into a charger near his work drives home on all electric (20 miles). The only time he has to use the petrol is at the weekends and that is only after driving 30 miles of pure electric....so that appears to be the way to go. PS the blue is beautiful in my lexus because it has like sparkly bits in the paint which just lifts the colour.....really beautiful car to drive

Well I'm one because I live in Northern Ireland...lol I would agree with you that there aren't too many of ES' s about....I think I have only seen one other up here and it was a light blue one I honestly do think this might be the problem where the ceramic coating hardens the rubber and maybe it makes the sensor malfunction. I am hoping in the next couple of days try the Autoglym on the rubber rings and then follow up with the silicone. I'll let you all know how I get on but obviously it will take some to see if it works. (I did try the baseline suggestion and it seemed to work for a couple of months)

Is it possible that the coating that you got done to the car may have hardened the rubber ring around the sensors which made them faulty? I'm beginning to think this could be the problem because you would think that all sensors fitted to these cars would go faulty but that isn't the case. The ceramic coating I got done was very expensive at £750 + and the nature of ceramic coating is to harden everything and make water run off surfaces which is not what rubber is to do but flexible

Gediredi, I know it was only one sensor in your case but others may have had got a ceramic treatment on their car. It does appear to be something to do with the rubber seals and maybe the ceramic coating may harden the rubber. I know I am only guessing but it's worth investigating. I suspect when they were coating my car they probably coated the sensors I think I will try the Autoglym on the rubber and then follow up with the silicone....it's worth trying

I think you could be right but could Autoglym penetrate through the small rubber ring round the sensor? Why I think like you that it could be the rubbers hardening is because I got Gtechniq ceramic coating done on my car before I took delivery of it. So instead of protecting it looks like it may have made things much worse. I wonder have others that have had this problem with the sensors had also got a ceramic coating or similar coating of protection

Gediredi Thanks I'll go and get that. I take you just sprayed it on the sensors...not to much just a little?

What do you call the spray and where can I purchase it as I have also got he same problem.....I thought it had been fixed when I put vaseline onto the sensors but today drove the car for about 25 miles and the whole time the warning came on the whole....real pain in the neck. As you can see I asked CHX what did Lexus do to fix his problem...something about a software update but didn't return this thread to answer the question. So I would be grateful if you could give details of the spray that you bought so that I try your fix....thanks

So CHX, what did they do to fix it? I have used the Vaseline fix as suggested and haven’t had any problems but then I haven’t been driving it that much since Lockdown. So I would be interested to hear how the dealers fixed it. I know you said that they changed the sensors and updated the software...was it that that fixed it? I agree with you that it is a brilliant car to drive but I don’t know whether I would buy a EV version....way to big and I can’t see the range being impressive ( it is certainly not that great in the Lexus UX)

Guys I have a Lexus ES Oct 2019 and it has just developed this problem with the flashing lights and and beeping. I phoned LEXUS Belfast and was told that the dealers are aware of this problem and said it occurs in the UX as well. They said it was due to the over-sensitive sensors and what they do is they bring the cars in that have the fault and blew the sensors with a high pressure airline which blows the damp out of them. It didn’t appear that they had a solution but they said I could try putting a spot of wax on them...that might help...but they weren’t sure. Especially when I told them that car had an all over treatment of G-techque. I got the impression that they don’t know what to suggest for the best. I think the Vaseline idea sounds the best but I think I will try and blow them dry with a car drying vac which I bought last year from Amazon and then smear a small portion of Vaseline.....I cant see it doing it much harm...worth a go ...better than putting up with the bleeping and the flashing lights (really annoying). My last two LEXUS IS never had this problem but apart from this annoying problem I just love my Lexus ES which averages 50 to 59 mpg...just amazing. I would have been lucky if I got 28 mpg and the ES a bigger car and much cheaper to insure

Guys, thanks again for that. From what you are saying I guess my 2007 Lexus IS 250 must have been a SE-L.....just shows you what I know about my car........LOL. I bought it from Lexus Edinburgh and as far as I remember they told me it was driven by one of their Directors and it had about 4000 miles on it. I just assumed that all Lexus IS 250 SE came with Mark Levinison Sound systems..........honestly the sound system is fantastic...it's not just a very good Car Stereo.....there is something different about it, I can't put words to describe it, it's just like you are sitting in your front room with a very top end Hi-Fi system on. That's why I have had so much trouble doing this deal and thinking what other gadgets/luxuries am I loosing, in doing this deal but thanks to you guys telling me the extras I am going to gain it has made my mind up for me that it is the right decision. I totally agree with the comments that "Lexus would have ironed out all bugs and issues in the last models" My wife bought a VW Polo a number of years ago when it was a new model and that car gave us nothing but trouble and when we sold it back to the dealer we bought it from one of the sales men told us that we should never buy a brand new model of any car before the teething problems are sorted out............that advice (although truthful) was a bit late in the day Honestly, loosing the Mark Levinison Sound system could have been a deal breaker. I think the sound system on the model I am getting is a Pioneer.......I have heard it and it sounds like a very good system but the M.L. is just something else, on a different, higher level Does anyone know if the new Lexus IS 250 comes with the M.L. sound system as standard? or is it an addon on all the new models?

Noby76 and Exdee thanks for your answers.....that's great, that's more than the Dealer could tell me. I think the only things I am loosing out on in the change is the Padel shifts on the steering wheel (for manually going up and down the gears.......which I never really used....probably only used them when I was on a motorway and I was bored and was looking for something different to do....LOL) The thing I will miss the most is the Mark Levinison Sound system......which is simply superb. In the past I driven Volkswagen and Audi's and I have never heard a sound system like it. Again another gadget my old car is a DVD player......which again I never ever used. Which brings me onto Noby76 question "why do you want to change?? is it to get a 2012 registered vehicle or more for the lower mileage? 36000 miles is barely broken in on your existing 2007..whats your main reason for making the change"?? The reason to change is like most people who want to change, I'm now retired and want a younger car which is under warranty and has very low mileage 3600. As I say previously I driven cars in the VAG group but coming to Lexus has been a totally different experience. The Lexus IS in my opinion is just luxury and a beautiful car to drive. Don't get me wrong I have had problems with Lexus with rusting Alloy Wheels.....I had two sets of wheel replacements and still they rusted and finally Lexus refused to replace them saying it wasn't their processes that were at fault....which I totally refute because I got a specialist company to sandblast them and recoat them and they have never rusted...not even when I slightly caught one of them on a kerb did it rust or discolour. Otherwise, I have had trouble free motoring in the 6 yrs I have owned the car. Noby76, you are right the mileage on my existing car has hardly run the car in at 36000 but that was reflected on trade in value of my car....which was about £300 short of the value given by "What Car"......so I am reasonably pleased at that....obviously everybody wants more for their car but you have to recognise when you feel the price is right for you. Thanks again for all your help it is much appreciated. PS is the Mark Levinison Sound system a standard on any model or did my Lexus SE come with it as an extra or was it on 2007 models and then removed on the SE models in latter years?

Guys thanks for your thoughts. Sorry I didn't come back sooner but I got hooked once I saw the car. It turned out that the car had only 3500 miles on the clock even though it had been advertised as 8500 miles. One owner who had bought in November 2012 and traded it up for a GS in March 2013 but had now got rid of it in April (because it was too big or some other strange reason) and now had ordered the new IS model. Seemingly he changes his car about three times a year.....likes new cars (great to have the money to do that..............I'm not complaining) I probably or might get a slightly cheaper deal once the new model of the IS comes into the dealers but would I get a car that fresh with only 3500 miles? Probably not. Guys nobody has still answered my initial question which is "the main differences between the specs. between these two cars?" my Lexus 250 SE (2007) and the new 2012 Lexus IS 250 Advance 2.5 Automatic The dealer didn't seem to have a list of differences other than the Mark Levinison sound system in my 2007 Lexus.....surely there must be somebody out there that knows the differences? Anyway I have done the deal......and am looking forward to picking up the car very soon and enjoying my gift to myself on my retirement. What do the rest of you think, do you think I did the right thing changing now? My existing 2007 Lexus

I have a superb Lexus 250 SE (2007) with a Mark levinison multi media pack. the car itself has about 36000 miles on the clock. I'm thinking of purchasing from my local Lexus Dealer a 2012 Lexus IS 250 Advance 2.5 Automatic. Can anyone tell me the main differences between the specs. between these two cars? Of these two models.....of course I know the colour is different and the new one is 5 yrs younger. What I'm worried about is am I loosing significant gadgets/improvements to the new car. I'm thinking of retiring from work for good very soon and I don't know whether to go for the newer car with less miles on it or keep the existing car ( which I love) for another few yrs.......decisions,decionns....what do I do? Please help? Thanks Harry

Hi guys Things are not good....with the Alloys, I mean. Just to update you on my long running saga of rusting Alloys, I had to contact Lexus Direct (which is a call Centre).....they couldn't deal with the problem and eventually put me in touch with Lexus Customer Service, who said that they couldn't deal with the problem as it should be dealt with by the a Registered Dealer...in my case, Lexus Belfast. Eventually I did get through to Lexus Belfast who asked me to bring the car to them so that they could take photos of the three alloys which were showing signs of Pitting. They duly took photographs and wrote a report to Lexus UK (on my behalf) A couple of weeks later Lexus Belfast contacted me to say "would I kindly bring the car to them again so that they could take more photographs because Lexus UK needed more proof that this was three separate wheels and not just one wheel whose photograph had been taken three times".....(Yes I couldn't believe that excuse either....if Lexus UK can't believe their own Dealer who can they believe!!!) Anyway, I did what they asked and brought the car to them (a round trip of 30 miles)and they took more photographs and a couple of weeks later Lexus UK made their decision. It was that they couldn't justify putting any more alloys on the car because they had already put 6 alloys on it and it was now just out of it's warranty. I'm not a bit pleased with this decision. If there is a fault with the alloys (and there is) then they need to own up to it. Since this decision the Alloys have got much worse with one wheel loosing about an inch of lacquer and rust is setting in and more bubbling has occurred......This wheel didn't even last a full year before this happened. Great Car, Terrible wheels, Great Looking car, poor customer care after the three year warranty is up. This experience has left me extremely annoyed and very unhappy. Would I buy another Lexus?.......I don't know......Lexus need to sort out the rusting Alloys first before I would look at it again. What do you think I should do with the wheels? .....should I get them refurbished? .......would that work?....... or buy a new set of Alloys.....any recommendations of what to buy?

LexusForever That message was dated the 8th April 2008....nearly 2 and half years have moved on and guess what I have, the same problem.....corroding Alloy Wheels, except this is the second batch of alloys since I wrote in 2008. Whatever way you look at it, it isn't good and as I have said many times "it's not what you expect from a Prestige Car Manufacturer" I still haven't had a call back from Lexus Belfast when I phoned them on Tuesday giving all my details, name and address, registration, phone No and the problem. I even asked to speak to the Manager at the time of phoning but the receptionist said I would be better to talk to the Girl called ***** in the Service Section first. It's looking more and more like I will have to call Lexus GB and see what they think of this customer service. Not A Happy Bunny

Tango I totally agree.......surely if the Alloys have been replaced with Brand New Ones (which mine were) then surely they should have a guarantee on them, if not three years then surely 1 yr......mine have only lasted less than one year. One thing I have learnt from this discussion is that it is the brake dust that harms the Alloys.....I really didn't know that. Mine you, I don't keep the brake dust on my car for long periods because I usually clean and wash the car once a week. The latest on Lexus Belfast is that they still haven't contacted me......they must be very very busy. I think I might take up the offer of Lexus GB in helping me if I didn't get a favourable response from my local dealer.....well, do you think no response comes under that term of reference?........I think it just might!!!! Vin (from Lexus GB)if you are reading this, you might be getting a phone call very soon. Can this Forum not bring influence to bare on Lexus GB to have another look at technical policy on Alloy wheels......if we the buying public can't bring about change within Lexus, what can? I'm sure it's not stupid costly surveys or "Ask a Question" Forms (which they have never replied too even though I asked them 4 times to reply)

Thanks guys for your views. My feeling is that while a car is in Warranty then it is the responsibility of the Manufacturer to fix any faults that occur with that car, whether that is mechanical or structural or cosmetic. You wouldn't buy a new car if it had bumps or scratches on it and if you did you would expect the price of that car to be much reduced. I didn't buy my Lexus with bubbling or corroding of its Alloys, so I didn't expect any reduction in the price, so why should anyone put up with this happening in a prestige car that has a technical design fault. Lexus know this is a fault......you just have to look at the numbers of threads in this Forum about the problem of Corroding Alloys and I'm sure Lexus know themselves that there is a problem. It's just not acceptable and I for one wont be letting this drop (thanks Tango for your support) Also not replying to my Phone Call.....doesn't go down well, certainly not in my books. They were happy enough in taking my money off me when I was paying for a Service but now that the car is out of warranty it appears I'm going to be forgotten about.......I REALLY don't like that attitude. Don't get me wrong, I do like my Lexus, in fact I would say, it is the best car that I have ever driven (and that is after driving many forms of Audi's and Volkswagens over the years)but I don't like this attitude of your out of Warranty so we don't care about your car....well that's what it appears to me when they don't return my call. I know people have said on here that other car Manufacturers have this problem of corroding Alloys, well I have never ever seen it and as I have said I have had Audi's and Volkswagens and my friends have driven Saab's and BMW's and Mercedes.....my father-in-law drives a four year old Citroen and his Alloys aren't rusting.....so I just don't accept that argument. Surely Toyota and Lexus need to regain their driver ownership loyalty back after the brakes fiasco .....what does it take to get this Corroding Alloys sorted out? from a very unhappy Lexus owner