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  1. That “self charging hybrid” line is brilliant marketing but in the case you describe would be the worst drive train you could buy. The teenyweeny motor is designed to support the engine at lower speeds, typically around town. They are good at that - when I moved from my IS250 to the IS300h I halved my petrol bill. In your case all you’d be doing is lugging around the weight of battery with no gain at all. There are some owners of the Model X who tow (the Model S isn’t type approved for towing) and the Supercharger network is extensive in Europe, but there’s no doubt the range gets hammered. If the aim is to get there as fast as possible then forget an EV for quite a while
  2. There are plenty of owners doing galactic mileage, they must never be home! It does depend on your driving profile, but bear in mind a Supercharging stop for 20 mins will give you another 100/150 miles. I often find the car is ready before I’ve had time to have a leak and grab a coffee. Have a look at the network of Superchargers, and remember there are 6-8 stalls in each location so the likelihood of one not being available is vey small. The sat nav will also tell you how many stalls are occupied on a real time basis so if needs be you can miss out a stop and go to the next one. https://www.tesla.com/findus?v=2&bounds=51.71689632634334%2C0.2825150263976184%2C51.31824551177659%2C-0.3979506718445691&zoom=11&filters=store%2Cservice%2Csupercharger%2Cdestination charger
  3. The big reduction was on the P100D (now called Performance) and that has hurt a lot of people, no doubt about it. Mine has only been affected marginally, but as I bought on PCP it’s the finance company that will take the hit. I deliberately went for PCP as I wanted to be able to bail out if anything went wrong and have always expected the market value to be below the GFV, which is a crazy generous 54% of purchase price after 4 years. The P100D was crazily over priced, but Elon Musk has never hidden the fact that the S and X were priced in part to subsidise the Model 3. The Performance version is now much closer to the price of mine, and I’m sure many will stretch to get into the 0-60 in 2.4 sec version 🤔. You’re probably right about the reliability v JLR, most of the problems with the Tesla are design faults e.g. the self presenting door handles were initially plagued with failures. They worked out what was going wrong and are now on Gen 3 with replacements being fitted FOC well past warranty.
  4. 1. I would never go back to internal combustion engine of any type through choice. The EV responsiveness, torque, quietness and largely one pedal driving using the regenerative braking is just superior to anything an ICE can produce. The acceleration from standstill is astonishing but equally you can waft along like royalty. 2. Yes I would without hesitation. Coming from Lexus I was very nervous about the brand, and they can be ‘challanging’ but the car is a breath of fresh air. The lack of knobs, buttons and dials is wonderful and the over the air updates with improvements to your car after you’ve bought it is, I think, unique. I would love to look at something else but as a main car for use on longer journeys the public charging network is rubbish by comparison to the Supercharger network. 3. When the high speed charging network gets established queuing shouldn’t be a problem, but it will take time. The current network only delivers at 50kW which is less than half the Supercharger speed of 120kW. It takes about 20 mins to get from 20-80% so with 4-8 stalls the throughput is pretty good.
  5. I did an update a year ago and thought it might be worth doing another a year later. Here's a link to last years, hope it works as I'm not to clever with these things.. Anyway, this will be brief ( I always say that and never manage it) but the TL;DR is I'm still a very happy bunny. Various headings for use of reading. Reliability I have now done 30k in the 2 years and have not had a single solitary issue. It has been rock solid which considering the lack of pedigree is pretty amazing I think. Range & Battery Degradation I have the 75kWh battery and on a long journey in the summer at legal motorway speeds 260 miles is achievable. Nearer 200 in the winter. Obviously this only matters when I'm doing a long journey as on a day to day basis I'm home well before range becomes an issue. A pic of the instrument binnacle taken yesterday: My average lifetime consumption of 336Wh/m is about 10% over what Tesla think is "typical" for this car. This was taken at the end of my commute home where consumption was 504 Wh/m and really shows the impact of short journeys - all uphill too. In terms of cost per mile its running at about 3p compared to circa 20p on petrol. This is charging on E7, usually for no more than 1-2 at night, obviously depending on how far I've driven that day. I've lost a handful of miles in degradation and there are cars in the US and Scandinavia that have 300k+ miles without significant loss of range. This is in large measure due to the sophisticated battery management system that looks after the battery pack. Servicing & Insurance Costs I am on PCP so need to have the car and whilst not a requirement to be done by Tesla I have chosen to do so. It's far too expensive at £450 one year and £700 the next. 1 year / 12.5k miles interval. Insurance is about the same as I was paying for my NX so not eye watering at all. Software Updates These arrive about one a month and deliver either new features or fix bugs. Often they will introduce bugs which are then squashed in a later release. One of the most beneficial that spring to mind is the "PIN to Drive" which combats the keyless entry/start fob booster theft attempt. Foot on brake, PIN pad appears on centre screen and car won't engage drive until PIN is entered. An OTA improvements to Autopilot recently was the auto lane change update. When on Autopilot a single push down/up on the indicator stalk will initiate a lane change once the car has checked the intended lane is clear. There are now 8 cameras in operation plus sensors and radar for the adaptive cruise. Downsides to Ownership Parts supply is awful so heaven help you if you have an accident that takes the car off the road. If something breaks. Tesla communications can be poor and inconsistent - they could learn a lot from Lexus Competition Kudos to Jaguar for getting there first with the I Pace. A well built car (certainly better than the Tesla which is American don't forget) as is the Audi E tron. Both severely hampered that is the mess of a public charging network which is simply years behind the Tesla Supercharger network. It'll get better but it's a long way off and makes long journeys problematic. The Porsche Taycan looks good. Driving Experience Fantastic and brings a smile to my face every day. There is nothing like it. I welcome comments or questions if there are any.
  6. My dealer has just got back from Portugal and says the car drives great (he’d hardly say it was rubbish though would he!). Can order in Jan, demo’s in March and delivery from April. Going to be interesting I think. UX v Q3 v E Pace are the runners.
  7. Are any in the UK available to view/drive yet? My wife’s Q3 is up next next and I’d like to know whether this gets on the shortlist.
  8. Yep, and about the only item that can't be done by someone else is changing the drivetrain oil, and that's something that's done at the first service. Plenty of owners have not had a service until the car has done 25k ish, and then possibly again just before 50k when the warranty runs out. Of course those of us on PCP have to follow the recommended schedule to protect the very generous GMFV (mine is 54% of purchase price at 48 months). As I think I mentioned above, my belief is that the proactive swapping out of parts under warranty is factored into the service cost and I view it as part of the TCO. YMMV of course.
  9. I agree, and so do Tesla. They have said they are happy to share the network on agreed terms but seemingly there are no takers (or maybe Tesla want too much for the privilege, who knows). Jaguar have plenty of ex owners among the Tesla fraternity, and today’s launch of the I Pace has seem a number of them (via the Tesla closed Facebook Group) wringing their hands in frustration that a viable competitor isn’t because to charge the car on a long journey is going to take 90 mins instead of 20, IF you can get onto the one ‘high’ speed charger at the MSC. How many people are going to spend £80k with that sort of compromise?
  10. The most common problem on the earlier cars was the self presenting handles. The internal mechanism has since been improved and they still occasionally fail but not nearly as often. It’s difficult to put into words, the fit and finish isn’t to Lexus standard but the car is so enjoyable to drive and just so different to anything else you get past the odd bit of rubber trim not quite fitting. I haven’t had a single thing fall off or break, no rattles, squeaks, creaks or groans - the loadest thing is the fan! I loved all 3 of the Lexus’s I had ( a colleague is still driving my IS250 without trouble) but they just feel so dated - the number of knobs and dials makes my head spin! It not just Lexus, any convential layout with a tiny screen just seems...antiquated. Service wise, there is no need to have one for warranty purposes but the ‘recommendation’ is 12,500 or annually. I think a link was posted earlier. Even if my car wasn’t in finance I would still have it serviced for peace of mind, and as I said earlier they proactively change things if required. It’s childish I know, but the anticipation of the next software update is crazy. You can turn the HVAC on via the official app (there’s a 3rd party app that enables you to schedule it like your central heating lol), and the OTA update yesterday improves that functionality by also turning on the rear defroster and heated steering wheel.
  11. A Betamax v VHS battle I think. CCS is the winner in Europe thanks to the German manufacturers, leaving the Nissan CHAdeMO rather out in the cold. Shell have installed a 50kW units at a handful of stations, which is great, but looking ahead petrol stations will diminish like pubs have but for different reasons. Anyone that can park off road will have charging at home and "filling up" will be a thing of the past except for long journeys. Those that don't have off street or workplace charging will need different solutions, eg lamp post charging (being successfully trialled in a few places), supermarket/shopping centres etc. I'm certainly no expert and the transition will take many years but it's exciting times.
  12. One year ago today I parted company with my third Lexus, an NX300 F Sport (previous were IS250 SE & IS300h F Sport) and took delivery of a Tesla Model S 75D. I posted a fond farewell then: And an update a couple of months later here: https://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/111906-time-to-say-farewell-but-happy-memories-update/?tab=comments#comment-998482 There were a few requests for regular updates so I thought exactly a year on would be a good opportunity. I will be honest and welcome feedback, questions and have a referral code for free Supercharging if anyone's thinking of buying a Tesla. If you want some pics I'll happily oblige. Having read this it is far too long but I can't do the subject justice, so apologies. The tl;dr - it's a brilliant car but not perfect. The full story: Performance & Driving Experience 0-60 was 5.2 secs and the immediate torque always produces the "Tesla grin". 6 months into ownership Tesla announced a performance enhancement and tweaked the software. It's called "uncorking" and my 0-60 is now 4.2 secs . The enhancement was free of charge and the standing start acceleration is utterly ridiculous. Nothing can touch it away from the lights up to legal speeds (not that I'm a Grand Prix merchant - but on occasion). It's called a launch and my family have banned me from doing it whilst they are in the car. Anyone who has a hybrid will know how good the electric drive is, and it truly makes an internal combustion engine (ICE) feel archaic. I've driven 15k miles against my normal 10k, it's that good. Technology The car is an iPad on wheels, and the Tesla OTA software updates are eagerly awaited, arriving every 6 weeks or so. Sometimes they are eagerly awaited because the last update introduced bugs that hopefully the next one cures - they are far from perfect. That said, in the last 12 months I've had improvements to functionality that you just don't get elsewhere - you get the car you bought and that's it. A few examples - "chill" mode was introduced which is similar to the "Eco" drive, it mutes the acceleration and can make for a more relaxed drive. "Easy Exit" - you can amend your driver profile so the steering wheel lifts and drivers seat goes back. Auto high beam, and auto wipers using the camera and neural network learning not the traditional rain sensor. Of course many features appear of other cars, but Tesla adds these to your existing car during your ownership and for free. Improvements to "Autopilot" eg auto lane change on the motorway when the indicator is activated and general improvements to the cars autonomous ability - although it is a very very long way away from true self driving" Range The big question, how far will it go? Firstly, I have a "fuel station" attached to the side of my house. I don't even need to think about range unless my daily round trip is over 220 miles in the winter, or 275 in the summer. The official NEDC range is as much nonsense as the official mpg figures fro ICE cars. Mine is 304 mile - pretty much the same as for the Jag I Pace being unveiled today. Range is definitely impacted by weather and one of the challenges is getting away from the concept that the battery holds "miles." It doesn't it holds energy and the car will display a range in miles which is calculated on a set energy usage only achievable on longish journeys. In this weather, I will "use" 8 miles to do my 4 mile commute. Conversely, on a long journey with good weather and steadily 70 mph I will "use" 85 miles but have driven 100. It is better to leave the battery displaying the percentage battery and assume 2 miles per percentage. It takes a little betting use to but not long - and the battery doesn't do what the phone one does - 25% one minute and 2% the next! The battery management system is superb - what you see is what you get. Journey Planning & Charging Time Tesla Superchargers are situated up and down the country, mainly at motorway service stations. They will recharge the battery from 20% to 80% inside 25 minutes - enough time for a comfort break and to grab a coffee. They are free, dead easy to use and without them I simply would not buy a fully electric car. They are extending the network but the legal delays are a major pain in the neck. The network of public chargers, Ecotricity at the motorway services, are unreliable and slow - a Tesla Supercharger starts at 120kW and gradually reduces as the battery fills up. Ecotricity deliver 50kW at best, on the odd occasion I've used one I've only seen 35kW. Yes, a little more planning is required but it really isn't a big deal. That said, an analysis of what driving you do before embarking on the charge is vital. The standard retort " Until I can do 300 mile without stopping I'm not interested" is IMO more a shoot from the hip reluctance to the concept of change At home, I have a 7kW charger which I use at night on Economy 7. I generally charge for an hour or two a night, depending on what I've been doing during the day. An overnight charge would fill the battery without trouble - but I hardly ever do 200 miles a day. Fit & Finish For an American car it's well made, but it's not up to the standards we expect in Europe. Panel gaps are wider, can be inconsistent and the general "premium" feel isn't quite there. The interior is starkly different to anything else out there - not least of all because of the 17" iPad. There is definitely room for improvement here, but it certainly isn't anywhere near as bad as some commentators would have you believe. Running Costs Mileage costs are cheap as chips compared to an ICE. Using E7 electricity its costing me les than 3p a mile against about 20p a mile in petrol, assuming 35mpg. Long distance travel is free using the Supercharger network. Servicing costs are approx £500 a year, which is a bit pricey considering there isn't a lot to service. My own view is that they are covering a lot of warranty work within the cost. They are very proactive at changing something if an improvement has been made - e.g. the self presenting door handles are great, but the early generation ones broke a lot, so they routinely repalc them at service time. Insurance It's in the highest Group so is never going to be cheap, and repairs are expensive and getting parts is a nightmare. The biggest single worry of a Tesla driver is not range it's being without the car for 3 months while parts are awaited from California. It's been a problem since before I got the car and despite assurances to the contrary it still is. Tesla the Company I love the car and do not see me ever going back to an ICE. Tesla can be horribly frustrating to deal with. The staff are incredibly hard working but are under resourced, under trained and have no proper systems and controls. My own experience has been excellent but as a generality emails often go unanswered, calls not returned, PDI's are questionable and Lexus leave them for dead in this department. Luckily for Tesla the car is so good they get away with it, and as "early adopters" owners understand the growing pains but that won't be the case for ever especially when the Model 3 hits the UK. That'll be in "Tesla time" - defined as a "unit of time" that has an undefined start ad finish point". The competition I wish there was some proper competition and whilst it's great the I Pace is launching without a high speed charging network it is a deeply flawed offering. It'll be £60k at least and that's very expensive for a car that you cannot use for long distance trips without a major change to your driving habits. Jaguar claim it'll charge in 20 mins, well it will if you can find a 100kW charger. Apart from Tesla's (which they can't use) there aren't any in the UK and Jaguar have confirmed they are not interested in building a network - in much the same way manufacturers don't do petrol stations. It'll take 90 mins to fill an I Pace up, and that's also relying on the public charging network. Other manufacturers are all promising something in the near future, and I truly look forward to something that's comparable to Tesla, by which time goodness knows where Tesla will be - assuming the Model 3 hasn't killed them! Will Lexus bring out a full EV to tempt me back? Maybe but I'm not holding my breath.
  13. If by mains you mean plugging in using a standard 3 pin plug then yes you can but it's very slow, about 6 miles an hour. I use the mains but had a charge point installed on the side of my garage. It draws about the same current as your electric cooker, and gives about 20 miles an hour. You can get a grant providing the charger you buy is on the OLEV list, which the Tesla one isn't. You don't have to have a Tesla one so could get one that qualifies but I took the view I wanted the one designed by the manufacturer of the car. I'm sure the gubbins inside is much the same and no doubt I've paid a premium but for the sake of a few quid I wasn't bothered. IMO it's also very nice looking compared to most of them. The unit cost £450 and I used Tesla's approved installer which was another £500. Obviously the cost of the install depends on the work involved and should be the same irrespective of the unit purchased. I set the charge limit required e.g. 80% and the start time, e.g. 3.30 AM (Economy 7). Based on my normal mileage I usually only need an hour or twos charge a night. For the odd occasion I do more than 200 miles I fill up for free at one of Tesla's Supercharger locations. Can't recommend it highly enough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  14. That's interesting, I've never looked at that site. I do think@Spacewagon52 hits the nail on the head though, the headline sum of money is the critical part of the equation, irrespective of how more or less a car depreciates. I don't know where Fleetnews get their figures from but I don't agree with the Tesla figure. My car has a guaranteed residual of 54% of purchase price after 4 years assuming 40k miles. A quick look at the Lexus configurator gives an IS300h F Sport spec'd up a residual of approx 33% after 42 months. Ignoring fuel (which they also overestimated for the Tesla) and servicing which are small fry in the overall context, my Tesla cost about 80p a mile and the IS about 68p. That's not man-maths either! And to answer your question, is the Tesla twice as good? Based on the above it doesn't need to be for the financials to stand up. I loved my IS300h F Sport but the Tesla is not twice as good, it's ten times as good IMO. Utterly irrelevant of course if spending twice the headline sum is not possible, which I completely accept is the case for many for lots of reasons. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  15. True, I was comparing it to the cost of running my NX, which certainly wasn't 0-60 in 5.2 secs! I'm paying 6p per kWh on E7 and have so far not needed to top up at home outside of those hours.