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Just got back from my local Lexus dealer, had a drive of the 250 Auto and its a very nice car. However they were only willing to offer me 6,500GBP for my Jaguar, these cars are exchanging hands for over 10,500GBP on Autotrader. As it stands I have made nearly a 10,000 GBP loss over one year on a 2nd hand motor :tsktsk: I appreciate that its swings and roundabouts etc and cars are cheaper at the moment, but 6,500 GBP..... On that basis I am unable to change my car. Salesman was a nice guy and the dealer treated us well however.

Thanks for all the advice. I am going down to Lexus today to have a quick look around and maybe have a test drive. I must admit if I had the extra cash available, I would also have a look at the new 08 Accord. Looks very nice indeed, they have certainly made the interior look alot more classy IMHO.

Had a look around autotrader and found some nice 250's, I doubt I can get an MM one within my budget as I am ideally looking for an 07 plate, so I get a nice wedge of warranty with the car. Is there much difference between the SE and SE-L, I must admit I do like the wood / chrome combo of the SE-L if mixed with a light colour leather. There are some great deals to be had if I were going for an Accord, I just find their interiors shockingly bland and tacky. Anyone else think that? The Lexus cabin just seems to ooze quality. I doubt Lexus are going to give me a good price for my Jag, Parkers say GBP 9700 with 20,000 on the clock. Mine has 32k ish but does have a lot of optional extras on it which should hopefully make a difference to the valuation (electric leather seats, sport body kit, parking sensors, cruise etc) I have found an 06 250 Auto SE-L with 16k on the clock for GBP 14, 000. What kind of discount do you think I should be pushing for given the current environment.... it is a buyers market after all. Thanks for all the advice Happy New Year everyone.

Tash thanks for that. I can not complain regarding the gearbox / engine combo in my Jaguar, its a great drivers car and very frugal. Its just all the niggles that come with it, in less than one year of ownership I have had to have.... 1. The drivers side electric window fixed TWICE 2. EGR valve replaced (Dealer were not interested in helping me even though the car was under full warranty) 3. Both key fobs changed due to problems 4. The rear bumper needs fixing back onto the car on the tailgate (the STICKERS gave in) 5. There is an annoying interior gearbox rattle that they never seem able to fix. 6. Premature rear tyre wear, I needed to replace all 4 tyres in the end (apparently common on Jags). 7. Whilst the car was in the dealership they found a problem with the rear track ends or something along those lines. That is far too much for my liking, ok not major mechanical issues, but just annoying little items which really lead you to question the build quality. The way the dealer treated me over the EGR issue was simply terrible. I want a Lexus for a more trouble free existance, I am really warming to the idea of the 250 Auto. Looks an interesting combination What is the flappy paddle gear box like?

I was trying to refer to the 5th injector issue and low mpg problems reported when I mentioned mechanical issues. Regarding the cvt, I have seen a couple of 250's advertised by Lexus, this puts the car into a lower road tax bracket (F) and means a reduction in my road tax bill. What is CVT referring to? I have seen this mentioned on Parkers when you select the exact model from the drop down menus. Cheers

Thanks for all the replies. I will have a wonder down to my local dealer to have a look soon. They have always treated my father very well there, nothing is too much trouble..... and he hasn't even purchased a car from them! All my miles are basically motorway miles and in the Jag you can sit in 6th from around 55 upwards with no issue, the unusable 6th gear idea does bother me. I will have to see on the test drive. I would hope for more than 28 though from the 250 on my motorway runs, isn't 35mpg a good ball park figure for a 70mph cruise? If I were to go for the 220d, should I really be looking for an 07 plate or something of that era to avoid the mechanical problems? Is the auto a CVT Auto for road tax purposes? Cheers

I have no interest in German products, so I guess I will have to have a butchers at the 2.2 Accord at some point. My dad had a IS220d as a courtesy car and I had a brief sit in the drivers seat. It felt and looked a class act in the cabin and I do love the exterior, very edgy and modern. I have submitted my details for a 48hr test drive anyway, won't do any harm. Anybody happy with their 220d?

I would quite like a manual (hence the 220d is just fine for me) however if I were to look at the 250, I would need the highest MPG option. To be honest I'm a little gutted after reading the owners reviews etc I assumed the 220d would be a good choice. Have Lexus addressed any of the issues of the 220d? (not including the 5th injector).

Which gives the better actual consumption, the auto or the manual? In my current car I'm getting around 41mpg ish, 550 miles to a tank. Thanks

Hi all, be easy on me please, first time post and all that :D Basically I currently own a Jaguar 2.2 Turbo Diesel and am looking to possibly change to a Lexus. My father owns a 01 GS300 which he loves and he always speaks so highly of Lexus customer services (something which I can not say about Jaguar.) His experiences have basically made up my mind for me. I had decided to start looking for a 220d, however was shocked to read the various problems owners seem to be having. Mechanical breakdowns etc seems very un-Lexus like to me and this has got me thinking whether I should change or not. I want to buy a Lexus for genuine reliability, not to take it to the dealers every 2 months. I am fed up of all the niggly problems I have had with my current car over the past year, but touchwood it has not let me down badly, unlike some of the reports regarding the IS220D. I drive 15,000 miles (motorway) or so every year, hence my choice to buy a diesel last year. However given the price at the pumps now, it would seem there would be little difference between buying a 220d and a 250 and from the looks of it, I would have a lot less problems with the petrol unit. I'm just looking for some advice really on which way to go. Is the IS200d really that bad? Is the 6th gear really useless? What consumption can I expect from the 250? How many miles do people get from a tank? Cheers Nick