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Gave son my 22 ES P/P and used his 21 ES P/P to fund my 24 ES P/P. Got 22k, price down from £23.5k in Jan, with 14,000 mls. The dealer explained that the ES seems to be going out of favour understandably. There were no S/H on forecourt. What a changing world to purchase a vehicle I.e. salesman takes order, others sort finances and P/exchange, they even have a handover person. The 24 ES has changed, being a technophobe it was daunting, no split screen, different central console etc. Most importantly that speed bong! after many personnel trying to disable, they finally managed it, but I can’t explain how. Maybe when I exceed the limit it will go off, I’ll report back later. I somewhat regret getting rid of the ES 22, I should really have kept the old IS.

Sorry! AWD.

In South London, and Khan in “charge” of our roads and speed limits. FWD to me seems a complete waste of money

Do not even think of a Land Rover/Discovery. Toyota/Cruiser a fine choice. All the best.

Ian, excellent ideas, but getting into that fuze box is a pain. The battery seems easier. Surely some easy isolation of both could be fitted?

Going away for a few weeks? ES on drive? How would you feel about jacking it up and removing a wheel and securing it safely. Just a thought whilst having a few in the pub!

Is a specialist aluminium welding an option?

I agree with all what Mr Vlad has said. Niggles for me are the limited steering lock and the concern of theft. I am coming up to my 4th. I feel the build quality and reliability is second to none. But you should explore all alternatives. Welcome, possibly to the Forum. All the best with your test drive.

The rubber components on Japanese vehicles are of a much higher quality than their counterparts. They crack, yes, but rarely allow lubricants to escape. Take that horrid c/v joint boot. The Jap ones would crack but rarely fail. The MOT test parameters have certainly changed, putting undue stress onto the Inspector. As a retired MOD senior inspector on car/ HGV’s. The inspector now has to cover his ar -e. The day of simply fail or pass have gone. One what rattles me is “worn and “wear” there is a very distinct difference.

If the dust cover was deteriorated to such an extent to to allow ingress of dirt and moisture it should be deemed a fail.

Wait for your next MOT. Nothing serious on those advisors. My Old Accord had the same with dust covers 8 years ago and they are still showing the same now. At what degree is the pin worn? If serious it should have failed.

Contaminated pad at extremities?

They will, and have appropriate space saver’s with various sizes and stud figurations.

Space saver tyres are great asset, but the idea of jacking up such a heavy vehicle on a very iffy jack can be a nightmare. In many circumstances, such as incline, dark, traffic and ability to remove and refit the wheel correctly and hoping the tyre has the correct pressure. I personally would have a tyre inflater and hope for the best if it is slow, or a breakdown service. At my age and a retired HGV engineer who has changed many lorry wheels on the side of the road and motorways (without the lane being closed) I would still be apprehensive on the road side.

After 2 3rd party keys. None worked successfully. Cannot remember all details. Best of luck.

I just hope the key, from the 3rd party will perform correctly. My son had an 08 Accord, lost 2nd key. Purchased a key from a renown High St. chain. Result deep grief, sent the Honda into a right old state. It didn’t like it one bit! Result new Honda key.

When I first bought an ES after having an IS. I foolishly didn’t take much interest in the dimensions, when I did alarm bells rang out! It would just fit. The width was okay but length, with my bench in front, very tight. Wife said, “The bench and vice will have to go” That was non-negotiable! Bought 2 heavy duty rubber car stops, about £60. Problem solved. My garage is 20ft x 12ish.

Thank you all for so much for your prompt response and clarity. Doubt I would have had that from the dealer.

I will get in touch with dealer. Won’t be happy not 24 spec. But what can I do. Especially as it was ordered for 1st March.

Will there be much difference between M23 and 24? Surely be built in 24. It will have all upgrades?

I ordered an ES P/P on the 2nd August 23. For delivery on 1st March 24. Cannot find any activity on the Lexus link on build etc other than ordered. Am I being somewhat premature? I have been using the original Lexus link as the plus version doesn’t show the build. Oh well just hope it can get through the Suez. Will the 24 be much different to my 22? Just hoping it could be a bit more thief proof! All the best to all and a Happy New Year.

My 22 ES didn’t even have the sticker on screen!

Well what a dilemma! Simply anybody owning a 40k car is at risk. I will be receiving a 24 ES P/P in March. Will that have any better theft protection ? and my son will be getting my 22 plate. As seen in previous threads he had an attempted theft on a 21 plate. We have owned many ES’s. What to do, buy a Dacia?, may quite rightly suit many. We have short memories when, not so long ago they were all being hot wired. Let’s do our best for prevention and keep our fingers crossed. BMW, Merc, Audi saloons seem to be more desirable.

Just hope the engine isn’t seized.

Easy check for you Mike. Put headlights on, attempt to start, headlights dim, battery had it or discharged. All the best.