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Here's something that also makes no sense in the UK insurance market, compehensive vs 3rd party cost difference is negligible. Why? Every other country I've insured in, 3rd party is considerably cheaper as the goverment mandated option.

Ramp up in thefts before the upcoming "fix"?

3 beeps indicate an incompletely closed door. Maybe a door sensor is failing.

Agreed, but that charge still applies to a percentage of us sold vehicles depending on factory capacity vs actual North American sales, doesn't it?

Only half of us market es cars are built there last I checked. The factory doesn't have the capacity to cover the full market yet. So import charges still apply to some extent. Please correct me, my numbers are a few years old now. Sorry can't figure out the multi quote function on my tablet.

Correct, but usa destination charges have little to do with reality. Lexus us destination charges for the es were $1150 while uk destination charge is £700.

Exactly!

Actually the $44590 you are quoting is for the hybrid model in base trim. It's lower than that for non hybrids, they start at $42k. Also those prices include state taxes and destination charges. Let's assume destination charges are the same. Average state tax is 6%. So you need to take that off first before you multiply by the exchange rate and add our own vat. You'll come up £3.3k short to current uk prices, adding a 1.2k pounds tech package brings it in line with the premium here, and adds on top of it a heads up display, but you lose the heated steering wheel. You're still 2.1k worse off. Not bad in comparison to other manufacturers where the price difference is much higher, but worse off to when there was actual price parity on the ES. You can add the last remaining package at 1.9k pound equivalent, get the heated steering wheel and add on top of our uk premium memory seats, auto folding and tilting mirrors as well as the parking assist, and still have 200 pounds left over.

Depends on how you define artifically low. The pricing was in line with it's pricing in the USA (after taking the 20% VAT into account and currency exhange rates). I know shock! It's just most auto companies are sure they can keep fleecing British motorists with above market pricing across the board. So now Lexus have brought the ES in line with the other fleecing models. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/business-dealership%2C-sales-and-marketing/uk-one-most-expensive-countries-buy-car-study-says

That is quite a price jump and pushes all grades of the ES into the luxury tax paying category.

Thanks, keep us posted please.

Thanks. That's what I was told as well. But then I'm seeing people on here booking theirs in already. So I'm guessing a two pronged solution, plate and something as yet undisclosed.

So it's just a protection plate? No mention of software or security hardware?

And the saga continues with lexus seen to be doing nothing. Sorry to hear your car got stolen, hope insurance value it correctly.

It's been a few years, drove ours on the autobahn. Does not crack 200kph. Can't remember exact top speed. It's electronically limited.

It's hit and miss within the same manufacturer. We have a Honda, one dealer CS is second to none, another nearby appalling.

Before someone bites my head off. Well not pay back the 2.6T in its entirety, but bring it back to a level investors are willing to bankroll (i.e. continue to invest in a fiscally responsible stable economy).

The reason for the highest level of taxation is to pay back the ridiculous debt the UK is in, with interest!. Debt to GDP ratio is standing at 85.4% (down from over 100% in May last year). Compare that to Germany's 59.8% That means the lions share of those taxes are going to servicing and paying back the debt that has ballooned from so many failed, mis-targeted and overbudget projects (e.g. HS2). Last year just interest on that mountain of debt was 112 Billion, that's nearly 10% of all government spending, you still need to pay back the ~2.6 trillion, and we wonder why taxes are so high??! Essential budgets for police and healthcare were left to stagnate or move backwards to cover that debt. You want those essentials, yes taxes will need to go up until that debt is brought back down to reasonable levels. I'm not talking politics here, just hard cold numbers.

Chronic underfunding. This is the result. Need I say more?

So, they managed to enhance the RX plates, but didn't bother to create any long term solution?! Who cares about the rest of the line up. As long as they are seen doing the bare minimum for the SUV crowd, no offence guys, just the most predominant vehicle type now sold with the highest margin, screw all the other customers. Even LC customers, one of their most expensive vehicles don't matter, no volume there. What are they thinking? How do they think this is going to play out? Now the RX is the number one stolen vehicle in the uk by percentage. 1 in 46! How much worse does it have to get for them to stop applying stickers and quietly nonetheless? Loud recall lexus, you idiots! I've even conveyed as much to them, even if it costs us money. Because if it's the bottom line they only care about, just charge us ffs!! I doubt any owner would say no I'm not paying, to save thousands in depreciation, insurance, meager theft payouts...etc.

Sorry to hear that. So the plate is a delay as I was told, and they've figured a way around it...sigh.

How about we get Mr. Loophole to look into it. See his comments on the latest Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/feb/24/smart-keys-car-crime-thieves-hi-tech-arms-race Motoring lawyer Nick Freeman said: “There is a strong legal argument to say these cars are insecure and not fit for purpose. The motoring industry has been negligent. It has failed to prioritise security and motorists are paying the price." also see: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/24/revealed-car-industry-was-warned-keyless-vehicles-vulnerable-to-theft-a-decade-ago

What a load of PR baloney! They mean for one model, every other model owner can take a long walk off a short pier.

Colin would be the expert here. I'm just relaying what my dealer told me.

No it doesn't have to be through the left. The right can work too, it's just tighter to get to the wiring on that side due to fixed solid tubing in the way. Which is why Lexus are fitting protection plates to RX vehicles on both sides. Every other Lexus owner can go suck a lemon as far as they are concerned.