i have owned a couple of these back when i was young and i know a few people that own these and they are very quick, ive had it a few times with these staying with me up to a 100mph and ive got a soarer twin turbo so i do think most of us lexus owners should give them credit where its due, 12.18 1/4 mile out of a carb 1.4 pushrod is very impressive. there are only a few lexus's that will beat that and they cost alot less than what we have paid for our cars.