Number86

Following a car is always easier than being the leader.

2. It's 2 tenths of a second, not 2 thousandths, and when you're in the under 5's bracket, that's not insignificant. Perhaps check out the quarter mile times for a broader perspective. As that reduces the focus of launch grip somewhat.

I'm just thinking it sounds a bit like post hoc rationalisation. As you're all f owners, and it's the same thought process I had with the f, and that I've observed in every other car forum, with almost hilarious predictability.

This and other threads here also smack of vested interests justifying prices to prop their own car up in the back of it.

Sometimes stepping back and trying to be objective is a good thing...

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deliberately underrated it? For what purpose?

All the reviews I've ever read put the lexus behind the rest.

Perhaps my post sounded harsh. I prefer the lexus to the others, because I've always been a lex fan, but this is a public opinion. It doesn't handle as well as the BMW, it doesn't have the power to match the C63, and it certainly doesn't have the looks to match an M3 coupe.

Maybe. I just wouldn't be comfortable paying 50% of rrp for a car that's 6.5 years old. Admittedly that blue one is obviously not a great example, but it is a facelift with the improvements that carries. But perhaps you're right...

I'm noticing a similar trend with the 370z. Despite the cost of it new dropping to 26k for a base model. 4+ year old examples are sticking at around 18k. As they're almost as rare as the isf!

That's it chap. Very few about and good examples well looked after with possible extended warranty as an option are always going to command a higher premium and hold value pretty well.

You never know, if you are in no rush something may crop up eventually.

Stu

I meant to address this post before...

Rarity is one thing. However, it's pretty much universally accepted that while the ISF is good, it's not 'quite' as good as the others, which is fine normally. As they were going used cheaper than the competition, and had lexus reliability tipping the favour. But now, with some jokers asking 25k for 08's, they're costing more than the competition, and I'm sorry that's not justified, when it's inferior in anything but reliability.

I'm with the majority saying give this one a miss I'm afraid! :(

The cheap tires, need for new rotors, repainted alloys etc, wouldn't worry me too much.

The lack of servicing and the above issues would be a big concern. It shows the last owner didn't look after the car properly at all.

Whilst I agree to an extent that the car is pretty bullet-proof, abuse will still have an effect at some point.

With prices as they are, you would be better off waiting for something that has been looked after the way these cars deserve.

The facelift options are a big factor I concede, but not at the cost of proper care and maintenance.

You can just imagine the idiot thrashing the life out of the poor thing before it warms up, not giving it time to cool down before switching it off etc.

Negligence will kill a car no matter how well built.

I'm sure something else will turn up as more RC-F's come on the market (saw a good priced silver 08 on Autotrader for this reason the other day).

Just my opinion. :)

One thing...Not giving it time to cool before switching off? This isn't an old school turbo here. Why would you need to do that?

Maybe. I just wouldn't be comfortable paying 50% of rrp for a car that's 6.5 years old. Admittedly that blue one is obviously not a great example, but it is a facelift with the improvements that carries. But perhaps you're right...

I'm noticing a similar trend with the 370z. Despite the cost of it new dropping to 26k for a base model. 4+ year old examples are sticking at around 18k. As they're almost as rare as the isf!

I think 23k for an 08 is too much!

If its the blue one on autotrader at £23k be careful. Its been for sale for quite sometime and they advertise as full service history which is untrue. It has three services missing including the 60k miles which should of already been done, plus way over the recommended 10k miles between services.

Oh, that doesn't bode well! I hadn't actually checked the service book, though the chap went on about FLSH from twickenham I think.

The computer also stated that the engine oil needed to be done. Does the car detect this, or is it simply a reminder as for some of the other parts?

Hmm, perhaps I'll be walking away from this one then!

Shame there is no manufacturers extended warranty for your peace of mind BUT they are so reliable it shouldn't put you off. There is nothing to check in terms of mechanical issues. There is a recall coming up but won't have been done yet. Discs and pads all around is 1500 odd from a stealer but can be had for cheaper if you bought and had parts fitted outside of the dealer. Tyres also aren't cheap at minimum of 180 ish/corner for a premium tyre.

Check the wheels for any dodgy reverb jobs. Mine were awful. Also, check the callipers as they can flake. I have a daughter so cream leather was out of the question for me but does look good.

Stu

Thanks Stu, good input.

Incredibly pricey for a set of discs....

The only thing I noticed was a slight creak in what I assume was the suspension, when I pulled up on the kerb. Is this a known issue, or general wear and tear (I believe this was a lexus demo car).

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So, hi guys!!

I'll try and spare all the usual fluff about how great the car is that these posts contain, and get straight to the point!

It's a Blue ISF with cream leather (by far the most striking combination, though I do worry about cream leather), on a 2010 (59) which I understand is the facelift (black centre console surround and blue accent on steering wheel).

The car has done a hefty 64k miles, it's running on cheap rubber, and the discs have a bit of a lip all round. However, as I'm not a mechanic,what should I be looking for, or features I should make sure work? It's hard enough trying to take everything in when you're learning the car, and all it's basic functions for the first time (while going full bore ), to really start analysing features and functions you might not even know exist!

Seeing as it only comes with a basic indie trader 6 month warranty, I just have this anxiety in the back of my head, that it's a 55k car, that will have a 55k type repair bill!

Something about yolo keeps springing to mind though...