BrettMRC

They should be offering a blanket indemnity/insurance for all owners until this is sorted.

On the one hand, I get it - criminals are scumbags who think only of themselves.

On the other hand... this is not a new vulnerability in the automotive world - so I can only assume Toyota/Lexus have traditionally escaped because the line up hasn't been that desirable for a lot of theives before, so therefore they have literally just accepted the risk at some stage and pushed ahead.

This is exactly what I could see happening when I was deciding whether or not to keep my LC, and given just how long it took to get simple stuff like the windscreen trim in order to replace the screen I had serious doubts as to how they would manage general remediation at scale, let alone prompt and high quality repairs to those who had fallen victim to the scum exploiting their baked in vulnerabilities.

/End Rant/

I've seen three or four around Yeovilton area, not sure how local they are.  Green, white & dark blue hybrid.

There was one on here IIRC last year, ended up in a container along with a Bentley. 

At least one other that I know of this year in the UK as well.

I wouldn't have any drivetrain concerns, however I would want to have it inspected to ensure the Battery pack is in optimal condition and the cooling system is in good order. (As with any Lexus/Toyota hybrid)

It would be worth considering the additional wear on suspension at that mileage, so possibly could be in for bushes etc given the weight of the car.

1 minute ago, Brian R said:

Now steady on Chris, you don't want to undo all your good work.😁

Yeah, but he's been flat out in 1st and 2nd for 6 years... 🤣

Unless I'm going mad, I thought they got a good thrashing at the factory before delivery anyway?

3 minutes ago, Chris UXe said:

Hello Neil,

I saw this offer the other day- not sure if it's the exact specification you'd like though.

Immediate Delivery on Nearly New Lexus | Lexus Scotland (easternwestern.co.uk)

 

LC500

Graphite Black

Was £115,120
Now £88,495
Save £26,625

If it's graphite black then it's probably a Black Inspiration... 

38 minutes ago, lloydweb said:

This one's just turned up, only 3 months old, in Grimsby. Not a Lexus dealer though. Someone didn't keep it for long......

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403278019179?sort=price-desc&advertising-location=at_cars&make=Lexus&model=LC&postcode=wn12nq&year-to=2024&fromsra

Is it me, or does it not have the carbon engine cover?

This won't capture anything not registered yet, but was are in to April it should start to pick up 2024 cars soon.

https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?q=LEXUS+LC+500&commit=Search

Gives 523 in total with around 50 registered in 2023.  (A lot of those being special editions)

I ended up booking a call back from them via a webform, I did message the chap on here but never got an answer.

Call back was fine and got good service & pricing. 🙂

The LC is a relaxing cruiser with enough grip and grunt to have a bit of fun, all the while looking and sounding stunning.

If you want engaging, get something lighter with a better power to weight ratio. 

IIRC you had a thread on Pistonheads about this car too?

Might be worth bumping that and mentioning it's up for sale too.

35 minutes ago, eightk said:

Yeah, I've fitted the Etsy controller and can't tell the difference. I need to mess around unplugging the valves and see if that does improve it a bit.

Sticking a custom made mid pipe on to delete the secondary cat is still legal I think - the GPF is upstream of that somewhere I think - cheaper than a full catback and maybe a bit more subtle than an Armytrix or similar. There are loads of youtube videos on different exhausts but all the american/non-EU stuff is still without the GPF which really doesn't do the engine justice.

I had a play around with the valves on the controller, the difference when they are open is a slightly deeper tone - that's it.

The GPF is a bugger!

If it's a GPF car the benefit is much smaller, so bear that in mind.  🙂

I agree the scope for fraud/being endlessly dicked about is bigger with more expensive items, so there is an element of being willing to take a hit for a lot less risk/grief - but not a WBAC type hit! 

Are you planning on replacing it directly, or looking to just move on for now?

If it's the former look at PX with cash +/- from a main dealer/  (I did this with mine vs a Supra)

I'd definetely see if Lexus will offer you a decent price for it.  (If they are still interested in buying them in for stock)

35 minutes ago, wendle said:

I partly feel the same Brett, but i love the car, and why should i sell it for that reason. plus if i changed model i would probably be in the same situation.

In my case it was that, plus the fact I was struggling to safely negotiate the diddy little lane anytime I wanted to take it out.

Solution was a manual Supra, a bit smaller so easier to live with. (probably every bit as nickable!)

1 minute ago, wendle said:

The Ghost immobiliser with stop the theft but not the 4K's worth of damage caused, but then i suppose this would be the same for all cars

That was one of the factors that made me decide to sell - the dickheads would trash it anyway before they find out it's not possible to steal it.

23 hours ago, shapiro said:

Ironically it was only earlier in the week Lexus were saying they were not aware of issues with the LC…. Generic stock boiler plate responses to a serious issue.

On the positive we should have a solution soon and it will probably involve software / EUC related changes not additional brackets and plates.

But… I’m sure it’s not going to be the end of this, what they say and do remain to be seen for us Lc owners. 

5th of July 2023:

Good afternoon Brett

Thank you for your reply and for your update.

It is a great pity that you have had to sell your car.  There is always a risk with such an attractive and desirable product that someone wants it, without having to pay for the privilege.

As per my previous reply, we have only just started to see feedback relating to the LC and so it is something which is on our radar.  The most effective method of protecting your car from this type of theft method is a ghost immobiliser, which is not a product we manufacture.  However, we will look to see if any other deterrents can be used as well but this could take some time as this issue appears to be concentrated within London and the M25.  

I really hope that you can look at Lexus again in the future and thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Kind regards

Claire Dean
Lexus Customer Relations Case Manager
Toyota (GB) PLC - Lexus Division
Distributor of vehicles, parts and accessories for the UK

14 minutes ago, whereoncewaswonder said:

There already seems to have been an effect on insurance. I have multi-car with Hastings and they would not even quote on adding my incoming LC CV to the policy. Despite the fact the new car will be living in a locked garage behind electric gates and I have made no claims.

Just rang Lexus Customer relations asking about after-market immobilisers and they said that any issues with the car arising from the immobiliser would invalidate the warranty for that fault. I'll be going with the Ghost 2 regardless. 

They also said they have had no reports of canbus vulnerability on the LC! 😂

Hah!

I have it in writing from them!  Dodgy gits!

You need a physical deterrent - none of the immobilisers etc will prevent them damaging the car before they realise it's a non-starter.

Make sure your vehicle is too much risk to touch vs others in the area.

Locked garage with something else in front, bollards, etc etc.

51 minutes ago, ExLex said:

Just thought I would pop in, though briefly.  I read this forum quite extensively before I bought my LC about 18 months ago, and it was generally very helpful so thank you to everyone who takes time to contribute and answer.  I must now sadly report I am an LC theft victim, presumably through canbus.  Car was parked outside, in west London, and it was 100% locked and secured plus of course I still have the keys.  It was too far away from my house for a keyless extender theft to work, and a low loader would have been noticed because of limited access. 

What a shower of bastards 😞

Lexus deserve a huge kicking 😞 

On 2/13/2024 at 7:16 PM, Sbrlx said:

Yes, it is. Not much room to turn, so makes it so much easier!

That's awesome - wish I had installed one of those!

Cayman GT4 - I really wanted one, but Porsche wouldn't entertain the idea of actually selling me a new one.

AMG GT - decided it was far too ugly

Roma - by the time I had it specced how I wanted it to be it was near £300k, sod that

F-type - Felt like a step down

McLaren GT - put off by the scary customer service stories and reliability tales

LC - Noise, feel, reliability, dealer experience - loved it, but ended up being a bit too big, (and therefore vulnerable) for my location, glad I had one though.

It's only going to be a potential investment if you don't drive and put it directly into storage for 5-10 years.

Even then, unless you own the storage space you will be unlikely to see a profit vs storage cost.