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10 hours ago, FTBBCVoodoo said:

I have set myself a 30k limit for next motor.

At moment list is...

C63/E63

E90 M3 saloon

FK2/8 Type R

Ideally I would love a GSF but I don't think they will dip below 30k.  RCF is another car I adore but with 2 kids the 4 doors of ISF/GSF really are ace.

Oddballs are the I30N (2 of my mates have these now and I love them)

& E46 M3 - my only bucket list car that's still obtainable. 🙂

 

 

Lee - RCF ownership with kids may not be as bad as you think.

it depends on two things really

1. How tall you and the Mrs are

2. How old are your kids

I’m over 6ft, but can still get my daughter aged 12 sat behind me.

The Mrs is 5 footish and can comfortably get our 16 year old sat in the back behind her.

Obviously, if you are going to use the F as the primary family car, forget the RCF

I'm a non F owner, but have driven them all (apart from the LFA), I see the F range as follows -

IS-F - Possibly could be a classic - but not sure it stands out enough. At the time it hit the market, it really didn't get the recognition it deserved.

GS-F - Most difficult to predict for me. As good as the RC-F - no doubt, but with 4 doors I don't think it has the impact of the RCF.

RC-F - Seems to be getting lots of good press recently. Being a two door coupe, I think it is a strong contender

RC-F Carbon - as the RC-F, but this car seems to be the daddy and the most rare. My money is on the RC-F Carbon.

That sounds great. I would love to have seen some F cars! Unfortunately I can't make it, 

Here's another thought.

Rather than make cars more efficient, how about making it so that cars travel less miles per year.

How about making it possible for more people to work from home? Also has the benefit of easing the need to new road infrastructure.

All quite sad. Fat cats getting fatter and destroying the planet at the same time.

Best bit is that their latest marketing push (the electric car) makes it sound like they are doing the plant a favour. What a laugh!

I guess BHP is relative. To me 400+ bhp sounds overkill - but I'd love to have it 😉

2 minutes ago, Comedian said:

Most cars seem to fall apart around the engine - not the other way around.

But you make a good point and your current car can be converted to run on hydrogen I believe. 

A fuel cell car will use hydrogen to generate electric and drive motors, but you could burn it in a combustion engine. 

https://pureenergycentre.com/hydrogen-engine/

Absolutely.

There are so many parts in a car that never wear out. Seems crazy that every few years people replace the whole car!

17 hours ago, malcolmw said:

I have checked my LC500 speedo accuracy against my phone with a GPS speed app.

I am seeing 5% fast (i.e. at an indicated 80 I am actually doing 76mph).

Hope this is of interest. Can anyone else confirm this?

Just ask a policeman to follow you at 76mph as his speedo should be calibrated 😁

29 minutes ago, Linas.P said:

That is assumption not a fact. Theoretically - yes you are correct, in practice the emission controls on large polluters are lax, they receive fines which are known as "cost of doing business", because it is cheaper to pay fine once in a while then continuously maintain emissions control.

Nothing is 0 carbon emission, not even ZEV... so.. no you wrong ZEVs still have impact on global warming. However, this is discussion is trivial - if we going to stop driving our 1 billion ICE cars worldwide we going reduce emission by ~1-2% that is all. 

Not the same story about manufacturing, where emissions are ~50%, making new ZEV would be included into that pollution. So effectively replacing ICE with ZEV we actually going to pollute MORE! What we actually need to do is to reduce consumption, once the car is made we need to try to keep it going as long as possible (and that includes all other goods, especially disposable or semi-disposable ones). 

Car driving is not a global issue (global warming is), car driving is only an issue in city centers.. 

BTW... I guess this is not part of the discussion anyway, so sorry for making off-topic.

Whereas I don't think we going to convert majority of the fleet for over 20 years, I don't mind having PHEV or EV as long as other parts of the car meets my needs... 0-60, RWD, well build, luxury (Tesla so far is the best, but it is neither well built, nor really luxury in my definition). So I am looking at owning PHEV right now and EV maybe in 5-10 years time.

Very interesting.

I've always thought that car manufacturers should be forced to develop their vehicles so that they support a plug n play architecture. In the world of computers things are designed to be easily replaced e.g. new hard drive, new video card etc. Wouldn't be great if the car industry worked in the same way. For example, when a new more efficient engine is available, a consumer can just get it fitted to their existing car rather than replacing the whole vehicle.

The economic cost of manufacturing new vehicles must be enormous!

Looking good John!

Voice control on my Lexus is dire. I gave up in the end