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6 minutes ago, RochdalePioneers said:

It can't be too difficult to have both surely. I'm currently driving my wife's Hyundai Ioniq which I have "borrowed" for a few months whilst we sort out a long term car for me. The Ioniq has a good built in system plus Android Auto. As a Hyundai I expect it would be reliable but I don't get on with the Dual Clutch box or the shape of the seats.

When I borrowed an NX from my old work I loved the seats and the build quality. I didn't like the fuel economy (seems to be a known feature of the NX compared to Lexus saloons). And I really didn't like the infotainment system which seemed to be bafflingly backwards. Try to scan through a list of DAB stations as an example.

So I love the ES looks inside and out. The seats will be amazing. It will be reliable. I'm just debating if I can live with a trackpad thing to drive a baffling system on a screen obviously too small for the enclosure its in...

I’m in the same boat, it’s so close but the infotainment is big hurdle. The most irritating thing is CarPlay being available elsewhere in the world. At this point my shortlist is between the ES and S90, it’s the hybrid benefit of the ES against the infotainment of the S90. 

It’s baffling that a company that was so far ahead of the curve when it came to hybrid engines, can be so far behind when it comes to infotainment. I spend at least four hours per working day in the car, it’s like a mobile office. The infotainment and creature comforts are probably the most important aspects for me when purchasing. 

Does anyone know what the CarPlay issue is? After watching all the reviews I could the new ES had crept to the top of my shortlist. A large part of that was CarPlay mitigating the ropey Lexus nav system.  Other than the lack of CarPlay I’m pretty much sold, is it likely to be included down the line?